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On CBB, we have a game where we choose a word (usually long), then we transform it the way we want using IPA. It's one of the most popular thread of the forum. Not only it practices a lot IPA writing, but it also showed me new ways to change sounds in a language/conlang to derive it into another one.

Let me show you an example:

dɮɪ̈:.wʊ̈x > 't͡ɬəːvəx

(It's actually what we've come up with on CBB. Can you believe it first was /dɛ'zɑi.ɹəbɫ̩/ (desirable)? :3 )

Let's say: defenestration /difɛnəstreɪʃən/

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oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]

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finlay wrote:oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]


Ah yes the Conlang Telephone, that was fun. :P
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Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Bomari:

[ɜndixɜnɨʒːeʃɜn]
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Bomari > Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon

[χentɪxɛnizːɛsen]

Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]
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Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]
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finlay wrote:oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]

There have been threads where you had to change a whole passage of text in English.

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Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]

Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Liu
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)

Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]
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Qwynegold wrote:Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Liu
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)

Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]

Proto-Aukkaŋtin: [ˈtʰitʰeˈtʰð̞aɪ̯tʰð̞etʰ]

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> Middle Golden Aukkaŋtin: [ˈsisːɬasaws]
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> Modern Standard Baranxe’i: [syˈʃɑːlasɒs]

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Old Central Baranxe’i: [ˈtsiːts.ʰɬasaʊ̯s] > Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ]

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Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]

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Ouagadougou wrote:Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]
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Caleone wrote:syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]

> pre-Old Asuāneica: [t͡sʰi.ut͡sʰi.uː.ɑt͡sot͡su]
> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]
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MisterBernie wrote:> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]

Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]
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Nortaneous wrote:
MisterBernie wrote:> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]

Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]


Proto-Sayetic

[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]
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We can keep going?
Caleone wrote:Proto-Sayetic[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]

Coastal Dialect: [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ] > Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ]

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Proto-Sèferi[/b]: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]
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Imralu wrote:Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]

Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will do
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Darkgamma wrote:
Imralu wrote:Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]

Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will do

Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>
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Mr. Z wrote:Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>

> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)
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MisterBernie wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>

> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)


Proto-Sayetic

[ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]
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MisterBernie wrote:Proto-Sayetic [ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]

Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]

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Ouagadougou wrote:Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]


Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]

(the way I wrote the example is how we used to do it on the last ZBB Sound Change Game, providing name: romanization/transcription then [pronunciation] and sometimes the underlying phonemes if necessary)
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Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]


Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

* "ky" can be realised as both [kj] and [c].
* "u" does not existed as a letter or a phoneme.

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L'alphabētarium wrote:Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]
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The actual next word is at the bottom. Ignore this first one, I'm just doing it for sillyness.

L'alphabētarium wrote:Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

> Standard Ancaron: sicion [sʲɪˈkjon] si-cion SI-weird "The feeling of an odd or unexpected coincidence"
SI = the Ancaron prefix that creates a related word from a root.

Now the actual one:

MisterBernie wrote:Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]

> Standard Ancaron: ocion [ˈokjon]
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