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 Post subject: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:05 am 
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On CBB, we have a game where we choose a word (usually long), then we transform it the way we want using IPA. It's one of the most popular thread of the forum. Not only it practices a lot IPA writing, but it also showed me new ways to change sounds in a language/conlang to derive it into another one.

Let me show you an example:

dɮɪ̈:.wʊ̈x > 't͡ɬəːvəx

(It's actually what we've come up with on CBB. Can you believe it first was /dɛ'zɑi.ɹəbɫ̩/ (desirable)? :3 )

Let's say: defenestration /difɛnəstreɪʃən/


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:53 pm 
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oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:06 pm 
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finlay wrote:
oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]


Ah yes the Conlang Telephone, that was fun. :P
And taking your Mybutan > my Coastal Proto-Sayetic

dïhenjësyan [ə̃diːħẽʑːeːɕə̃]

(In Inland, standard, PS it would be more like [ⁿdiːɣɛⁿd͡ʑeːɕɑŋ])

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:52 pm 
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Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Bomari:

[ɜndixɜnɨʒːeʃɜn]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:02 pm 
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Bomari > Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon

[χentɪxɛnizːɛsen]

Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:12 pm 
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Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:16 pm 
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finlay wrote:
oh i remember we had something like this for a while which was like you had to adapt it into your conlang's phonology by borrowing. it might be better to go with that, or to specifically require people to use sound changes for their conlang, or something... the brief for this is a bit vague. for example, if you adapt 'defenestration' into the phonology of standard Sentalian, you get something like:
diifènystleecyn [diːfɛnəstɬeːɕən]
and then I can run it through the sound changes for Mybutan and get:
[diːfɛnstʃeːʃn]

There have been threads where you had to change a whole passage of text in English.

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Proto-Onpotcor-Qhalqon > Central Qhalqon

[qʰenʧɪkʰɛnisːɛʃen]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

[qẽʑexẽisːeɕẽ]

Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Liu
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)

Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:39 pm 
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Qwynegold wrote:
Coastal Proto-Sayetic > Liu
[ˈkesekʰeisːese] (I don't know where the stress was supposed to be, so I just placed it on the first syllable.)

Liu > yet unnamed conlang
[ˈseseʃeɪʃes]

Proto-Aukkaŋtin: [ˈtʰitʰeˈtʰð̞aɪ̯tʰð̞etʰ]

> Early Golden Aukkaŋtin: [ˈsiseˈslaɪ̯sles]
> Middle Golden Aukkaŋtin: [ˈsisːɬasaws]
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> Old Central Baranxe’i: [ˈtsiːts.ʰɬasaʊ̯s]
> Modern Standard Baranxe’i: [syˈʃɑːlasɒs]

pick whichever would be most interesting :P

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:59 pm 
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Old Central Baranxe’i: [ˈtsiːts.ʰɬasaʊ̯s] > Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ]


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:12 pm 
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Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:17 pm 
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Ouagadougou wrote:
Kinál: [t͡sɨjt͡sʼɬasaɔ̯sʷ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ʧɨʧɨlɑsɑɔsu]


> Coastal Proto-Sayetic

syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:30 pm 
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Caleone wrote:
syiuciuyasösu [ɕiut͡ɕiuːɑsosu]

> pre-Old Asuāneica: [t͡sʰi.ut͡sʰi.uː.ɑt͡sot͡su]
> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:06 pm 
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MisterBernie wrote:
> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]

Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:28 pm 
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Nortaneous wrote:
MisterBernie wrote:
> Modern Asuāneica: [syʈʂʷæcçocçu]

Proto-Arve-Gadaye: sutsüjjojjü [sɯtsuːə̯cːocːuːə̯]


Proto-Sayetic

[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:35 pm 
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Caleone wrote:
Proto-Sayetic[sʊt͡suːɑcɑcuɑ] > Coastal Dialect [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ]

Coastal Dialect: [sut͡suːɤkjɤkjuɤ] > Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ]


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:35 am 
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Proto-Sèferi[/b]: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:47 am 
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Imralu wrote:
Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]

Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will do

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:12 am 
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Darkgamma wrote:
Imralu wrote:
Proto-Sèferi: [su.ʧu.u.ɘ.ki.jɘ.ki.ju.ɘ] > Xuáli sutcuuakiiakiiua [ˈsu.tʃu.wa.ki.ja.kɪj.wa]

Proto-Dnaric: [sɯ.k'ɯn.ɣɞ.ki.jɞ.ki.jo.ɣɞ] > Kti suhunæ:keho:æ Will do

Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:09 pm 
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Mr. Z wrote:
Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>

> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
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MisterBernie wrote:
Mr. Z wrote:
Athonian [sʉˑ˦.näˑ˦.ˈkɔ:˦˥] <súnákô> > Kecykan /sn̩kɑ/ <s̃ka>

> Proto-Aketamsei [tʲn̩kɑ]
>> Modern Standard Baranxe’i [ˈʃɒːŋ]
(which exists in the lexicon, actually, as śāŋ- holy, blessed)


Proto-Sayetic

[ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:30 pm 
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MisterBernie wrote:
Proto-Sayetic [ɕɑʊŋ] > Coastal Dialect [sjoŋ] > Peninsular Dialect [sɪjɔ̃ɡ]

Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:55 pm 
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Ouagadougou wrote:
Peninsular Dialect: [sɪjɔ̃ɡ] > Proto-Sèferi: [ˈsi.jɔ.ŋɔ]


Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]

(the way I wrote the example is how we used to do it on the last ZBB Sound Change Game, providing name: romanization/transcription then [pronunciation] and sometimes the underlying phonemes if necessary)

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:22 am 
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Teskwan: sixjung [six.juŋ]


Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

* "ky" can be realised as both [kj] and [c].
* "u" does not existed as a letter or a phoneme.


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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:32 am 
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L'alphabētarium wrote:
Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]

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 Post subject: Re: Sound Change Game
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:11 am 
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The actual next word is at the bottom. Ignore this first one, I'm just doing it for sillyness.

L'alphabētarium wrote:
Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

> Standard Ancaron: sicion [sʲɪˈkjon] si-cion SI-weird "The feeling of an odd or unexpected coincidence"
SI = the Ancaron prefix that creates a related word from a root.

Now the actual one:

MisterBernie wrote:
Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]

> Standard Ancaron: ocion [ˈokjon]

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