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Lyhoko Leaci wrote:The actual next word is at the bottom. Ignore this first one, I'm just doing it for sillyness.

L'alphabētarium wrote: Txala: sikyon [si.kjo̞n̪/si.co̞n̪]

> Standard Ancaron: sicion [sʲɪˈkjon] si-cion SI-weird "The feeling of an odd or unexpected coincidence"
SI = the Ancaron prefix that creates a related word from a root.

Now the actual one:

MisterBernie wrote:Proto-Aukkaŋtin: zik.zun [ˈð̞ik.ð̞on]
> Proto-Eastern Aukkaŋtin: [ˈɤːkʲon]

> Standard Ancaron: ocion [ˈokjon]

Standard Ancaron ['okjon] > Kecykan oc̃ ['oc̃] ~ ['ocn̩]

Don't you guys just hate the way I make everything into crappy monosyllables? Kecykan makes such a great bastard child

Mr. Z wrote:Standard Ancaron ['okjon] > Kecykan oc̃ ['oc̃] ~ ['ocn̩]

Don't you guys just hate the way I make everything into crappy monosyllables? Kecykan makes such a great bastard child

Proto-Aketamsei otn [ˈotn̩]
> MSBaranxe’i osand [ˈoːsand]

thankfully, PA>B has dissolution of syllabic nasals, so yay, more syllables

Yibire osanda ['ousan:a]~['ɔsan:a]~['osanda]~['usanda]

Pick a dialect.

Astraios wrote:Yibire osanda ['ousan:a]~['ɔsan:a]~['osanda]~['usanda]

Pick a dialect.

['usanda] >
Leþwin: [usanda]>[ysæntæ]>[ʏs.sæn.tæ]>[ʏ.s:æn.tæˑ]>[ˌʏs:ˈænt] <yssand>

yssand > Meduzian üsãt ['y.sãt]

['y.sãt] > Tmaśareʔ wisąta [wiˈsɑ̃tʌ]

wiˈsɑ̃tʌ > Proto-Vdangku: oezāongdå [oɛzaːɴtə] > [uɨzãħt]

PKtaric [uɜzɔnːt] > Kti <Iæzhād> [ˈjɞʒɒːd]

Darkgamma wrote:Kti <Iæzhād> [ˈjɞʒɒːd]

Squalipsh: <yosătʼ> [josətʼ]

Squalipsh: <yosătʼ> [josətʼ] > Cétes: gioste [ɟ͡ʝostʰa]

Theta wrote:Squalipsh: <yosătʼ> [josətʼ] > Cétes: gioste [ɟ͡ʝostʰa]

Cétes: gioste [ɟ͡ʝostʰa] > Proto-Sèferi: ghosota [ʲɣɔsɔtɑ]

This is becoming addictive...
Also, I feel like PS's CV structure turns every word into a Gairaigo-like husk.

Ouagadougou wrote:> Proto-Sèferi: ghosota [ʲɣɔsɔtɑ]

Adwan: gósutomh [ˈɡʷoːsˠœtow] > Beaile: umeóskuitue [ɯˈwoɐzgɨtɜ]

Adwan: gósutomh [ˈɡʷoːsˠœtow]

Txala: kôsetô/kôsotô [ko:se.to:/ko:so.to:]

~This has gone a looong way by now...~

L'alphabētarium wrote:Txala: kôsetô/kôsotô [ko:se.to:/ko:so.to:]

Enzielu: kuusetuu [ku:setu:] Renzell [kʊi̯ʂɯˈtʊi̯j]

Renzell [kʊi̯ʂɯˈtʊi̯j] > Cétes gusidúi [ɟʏʂɯð̞uːi̯]

Ouagadougou wrote:[ʲɣɔsɔtɑ]

What is this? A prepalatalized consonant?

Cétes gusidúi [ɟʏʂɯð̞uːi̯] > Vivu'dunud dy'ydyy'i [ˈdyʔydyːʔi]

^
It's not very stable, as you can imagine (actually, it is assumed to be a transitional form from the earlier plain velar, but it's nevertheless the oldest easily reconstructed form), so the sound change to ʝ happened quite quickly. At this point, it's in free variation with ɣʲ.

Does such a thing even exist?

It does now, as it did back in 5000 AE.

Qwynegold wrote:

Ouagadougou wrote:[ʲɣɔsɔtɑ]

What is this? A prepalatalized consonant?

Cétes gusidúi [ɟʏʂɯð̞uːi̯] > Vivu'dunud dy'ydyy'i [ˈdyʔydyːʔi]

Teskwan: djouduhin /d̥ʷjʷuduhin/ [d̥ʷɥuduhin]

Yes, this is stretching it a bit, but there are no open syllables, they must have an onset. The coda must end in a consonant and usually borrow words that end in vowels with a /n/ for the coda instead of leaving it open. Plus /d̥ʷjʷ/ probably cannot occur on its own without being in a compound word.

I give the underlying phonemes because it is more interesting.

Teskwan: djouduhin /d̥ʷjʷuduhin/ [d̥ʷɥuduhin] > Proto-Sèferi: diudukhini [ˈdi.u.du.çi.ni]

I once read about a language with a prelabialized lateral.

[ˈdi.u.du.çi.ni] > Arve djahdustine [ˌɟɛu̯dʊˈçinɪj]

Nortaneous wrote: [ˈdi.u.du.çi.ni] > Arve djahdustine [ˌɟɛu̯dʊˈçinɪj]

Adwan: dgemdulgínygh [d͡ʒewdˠœˈʝiːnɪj] > Beaile deaimedureileíni [djeɰdɯhɨˈjiːnɨ]

lctrgzmn wrote:Beaile deaimedureileíni [djeɰdɯhɨˈjiːnɨ]

Renzell entertezehiine [dʲeɹdˠɯxɯɪ̯jɪʊ̯nˠɘɯ̯]

Nortaneous wrote:Renzell entertezehiine [dʲeɹdˠɯxɯɪ̯jɪʊ̯nˠɘɯ̯]

Proto-Aketamsei: jjerjkukhiyunkeu [dʲeɾdkukʰijunkeu]
> Modern Standard Baranxe’i: źerkśoxēŋē [ʒeɾkʃoˈxɛːŋɛ]