Romanization challenge thread

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Nortaneous wrote:Lahu

/pʰ p b tʰ t d cʰ c ɟ kʰ k g qʰ q/
/f v ʃ j h ɣ/
/m n ŋ/
/l/
/a ɛ ɔ e ə o i ɨ u/
/˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˥˧ ˧˩ ʔ˥ ʔ˩/

ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ lɛ˧ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ pʰɛʔ˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ te˥˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ve˧ tʰaʔ˩ jɔ˥˧ te˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ jɔ˥˧ ma˥˧ te˧ ve˧ te˥˧ cə˧˩ kaʔ˩ ma˥˧ cɔ˧˩. jɔ˥˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ lo co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ cə˧˩ cɔ˧˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, cʰɔ˧ ja˥˧ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ ba˧ la˧ lɛ˧, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ lɛ˧˩ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ tʰaʔ˩ ma˥˧ ɣa˥˧.
ph p b th t d ch c j kh k g qh q
f v s j h gh
m n ng
l
a e o ei oe ou i ue u
a ä á â à âk ak

Ò khúe püe thâ kak tô khô cò tä vei yòu.
Tô khô ôu vei ghùesa ge chê le tô khô ôu vei lè, ghùesa phek vei yòu.
Tô khô ôu vei lè, ò khúe püe thâ kak ghùesa ge têi ge chê tä vei yòu.
Qha poe èi ve thak yô tei tä vei yòu.
Qha cò tä vei qha poe èi ò qho lou yô mâ tei vei têi còe kak mâ cò.
Yô ò qho lou cou ha teik vei ò còe cò vei yòu.
Cou ha teik vei ôu vei lè, cho yâ vei ò ghôek ò ghôek ôu vei lè,
nâk houk vei ò qho lou ba la le, nâk houk vei lè ò ghôek thak mâ ghâ.

Bonus: another system:
p'h p b t'h t d c'hy qui gui c'h c/qu g/gu q'h q
f v ch y h gh
m n ng
l
a è oh é e/eu o i u ou
a- a_ a´ a` a\ ac¯ ac_

Oh\ c'hu´ pu_ t'ha` cac_ toh` c'hoh` quioh\ ta_ vé- yo\.
Toh` c'hoh` o` vé- ghu\cha- guè- c'hyè` lè- toh` c'hoh` o` vé- lè\,
ghu\cha- p'hèc_ vé- yo\.
Toh` c'hoh` o` vé- lè\,
oh\ c'hu´ pu_ t'ha` cac_ ghu\cha- guè- té` guè- c'hyè` ta_ vé- yo\.
Q'ha- pe- é\ vè- t'hac yoh` té- ta_ vé- yo\.
Q'ha- quioh\ ta_ vé- q'ha- pe- é\ oh\ q'hoh lo- yoh` ma` té- vé-
té` quieu\ cac_ ma` quioh\.
Yoh` oh\ q'hoh- lo- quio- ha- téc_ vé- oh\ quieu\ quioh\ vé- yo\.
Quio- ha- téc_ vé- o` vé- lè\,
c'hyoh- ya` vé oh\ gheuc¯ oh\ gheuc¯ o\ vé- lè\,
nac¯ hoc_ vé- oh\ q'hoh- lo- ba- la- lè-,
nak¯ hoc_ vé- lè\ oh\ gheuc¯ t'hac_ ma` gha`.
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/pʰ p b tʰ t d kʰ k ʔ/ <p b bb t d dd k g v>
/tsʰ ts tɬʰ tɬ tr̥ʰ tr̥/ <q j tl dl c z>
/f v s z h/ <f w s ss h>
/m̥ m n̥ n ŋ̥ ŋ/ <hm m hn n hng ng>
/l l̥ l̰ r r̥ r̰/ <l hl ll r hr rr>
/a e o i u/
/ai au ei eu ia iu ua ui iai iau uai uau/
a az ah ax

he:ŋ3 a:r1 va:r1 pali:1 hi1 ka1 du?. a1tɬʰo:n in1 a kal1. a lou2 tr̥ʰa kʰop mai2. ninɬei3 in to1pe:ng1 a1 nei. pi1tar1 in tʰang1ku:r1a a r̰ia:2. am̥el1 a? mo:ina1 a om2 lou. ka1 tr̥ʰutna1 a? i tr̥ʰu:1.

Heengx aarz waarz baliiz hiz kaz duv. Aztloon inz a kalz. A louh tra kob maih. Ninhleix in dozbeengz az nei. Bizdarz in tangzguurza a rriaah. Ahmelz av mooinaz a omh lou. Gaz cutnaz av i cuuz.
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Nortaneous wrote:Lahu

/pʰ p b tʰ t d cʰ c ɟ kʰ k g qʰ q/
/f v ʃ j h ɣ/
/m n ŋ/
/l/
/a ɛ ɔ e ə o i ɨ u/
/˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˥˧ ˧˩ ʔ˥ ʔ˩/

ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ lɛ˧ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ pʰɛʔ˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ te˥˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ve˧ tʰaʔ˩ jɔ˥˧ te˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ jɔ˥˧ ma˥˧ te˧ ve˧ te˥˧ cə˧˩ kaʔ˩ ma˥˧ cɔ˧˩. jɔ˥˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ lo co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ cə˧˩ cɔ˧˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, cʰɔ˧ ja˥˧ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ ba˧ la˧ lɛ˧, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ lɛ˧˩ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ tʰaʔ˩ ma˥˧ ɣa˥˧.
p b bb t d dd c z zz k g gg q r
f v s j h x
m n ñ
l
a e o i y u î ŷ û
(₂) ₁ h ₃ ₂₁ q₃ q

Oh kŷ₂₃ bŷ₁ ta₃ gaq. Do₃ ko₃ zoh da₁ vi juh. Do₃ ko₃ u₃ vi xŷhsa gge ce₃ le. Do₃ ko₃ u₃ vi leh, xŷhsa peq vi juh. Do₃ ko₃ u₃ vi leh, oh kŷ₂₃ bŷ₁ ta₃ gaq xŷhsa gge di₃ gge ce₃ da₁ vi juh. Qa by ih vi taq jo₃ di da₁ vi juh. Qa zoh da₁ vi qa by ih oh qo lu jo₃ ma₃ di vi di₃ zyh gaq ma₃ zoh. Jo₃ oh qo lu zu ha diq vi oh zyh zoh vi juh. Zu ha diq vi u₃ vi leh, co ja₃ vi oh xyq₃ oh xyq₃ u₃ vi leh, naq₃ huq vi oh qo lu bba la le, naq₃ huq vi leh oh xyq₃ taq ma₃ xa₃.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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I've got one:

Code: Select all

Consonants
	Fortis
		 N: m mʲ n ɲ ŋ ŋʲ
		-V: p pʲ t c k kʲ
		+V: b bʲ d ɟ g gʲ

	Lenis
		 N: ʋ̝̃ ʋ̝̃ʲ ɹ̝̃ j̝̃ ɰ̝̃ ɰ̝̃ʲ
		-V: f fʲ θ θʲ s ɕ x ç
		+V: v vʲ ð ðʲ z ʑ ɣ ʝ

	Approximant
		    ɹ ɹʲ j w ɥ

Vowels
	í ì---ú ù
	 |  |  |
	ɛ́ ɛ̀ ə ɔ́ ɔ̀
	  \ | /
	   á à

	Diphthongs
		iː ui̯ ɛi̯¹ ɔi̯ ai̯
		iu̯ uː ɛu̯ ɔu̯² au̯
		iɛ̯ uɛ̯ ɛː¹ ɔɛ̯² aɛ̯³
		iɔ̯ uɔ̯⁴ ɛɔ̯ ɔː² aɔ̯
		ia̯ ua̯ ɛa̯³ ɔa̯⁴ aː⁴

		¹rᶻᵈ as [eː]
		²rᶻᵈ as [oː]
		³rᶻᵈ as [æː]
		⁴rᶻᵈ as [ɒː]

		This grid applies to all combinations of tone. When diphthongs and long vowels occur, tone becomes a contour, either high, falling, low, or rising.

Syllable Structure
	(C)V(V)(N)
	Lenis consonants only occur word-initially and approximants only occur word-medially.
Sample Text
máɲɔ̀ ɕɛ̀n tʲɛ̂ɔ̯bɒ́ːn ɣánàŋʲ ðʲǽːpáɲa nə ʋ̝̃ətɛ́bə sóː gɒ̌ːŋ ɟɛ́mʲ ɕó sûi̯ ðʲɛ́mərə ðájən j̝̃úŋ sáməbà ʑáu̯ɥòː xə çɛ́ɲ ɟɔ̀

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m mʲ n ɲ ŋ ŋʲ <m my n ny ñ ñy>
p pʲ t c k kʲ <p py t ty k ky>
b bʲ d ɟ g gʲ <b by d dy g gy>
ʋ̝̃ ʋ̝̃ʲ ɹ̝̃ j̝̃ ɰ̝̃ ɰ̝̃ʲ <mh mhy nh nhy ñh ñhy>
f fʲ θ θʲ s ɕ x ç <f fy th thy s sy h hy>
v vʲ ð ðʲ z ʑ ɣ ʝ <v vy dh dhy z zy x xy>
ɹ ɹʲ j w ɥ <r ry y w wy>
a e o i u, acute for high tone, schwa is ü

máɲɔ̀ ɕɛ̀n tʲɛ̂ɔ̯bɒ́ːn ɣánàŋʲ ðʲǽːpáɲa nə ʋ̝̃ətɛ́bə sóː gɒ̌ːŋ ɟɛ́mʲ ɕó sûi̯ ðʲɛ́mərə ðájən j̝̃úŋ sáməbà ʑáu̯ɥòː xə çɛ́ɲ ɟɔ̀
Mányo syen tyéobáán dhyéépánya nü mhütébü sóó gaáñ dyémy syó súi dhyémürü dháyün ñhyúñ sámübá zyáuwyoo hü hyény dyo.

Cyrillic would be better
Ма́нё сен те́оба́а́н ҕа́наӈь ҙе́е́па́ня нә мъәтэ́бә со́о́ гаа́ӈ ге́мь сё́ су́и ҙе́мәрә ҙа́ӛн нъю́ӈ са́мәба зя́уўёо хә хе́нь дё.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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Nortaneous wrote:Lahu

/pʰ p b tʰ t d cʰ c ɟ kʰ k g qʰ q/
/f v ʃ j h ɣ/
/m n ŋ/
/l/
/a ɛ ɔ e ə o i ɨ u/
/˧ ˩ ˧˥ ˥˧ ˧˩ ʔ˥ ʔ˩/

ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ lɛ˧ Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ pʰɛʔ˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Tɔ˥˧ kʰɔ˥˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, ɔ˧˩ kʰɨ˧˥ pɨ˩ tʰa˥˧ kaʔ˩ ɣɨ˧˩ɕa˧ gɛ˧ te˥˧ gɛ˧ cʰɛ˥˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ve˧ tʰaʔ˩ jɔ˥˧ te˧ ta˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. qʰa˧ cɔ˧˩ ta˩ ve˧ qʰa˧ pə˧ e˧˩ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ jɔ˥˧ ma˥˧ te˧ ve˧ te˥˧ cə˧˩ kaʔ˩ ma˥˧ cɔ˧˩. jɔ˥˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ lo co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ cə˧˩ cɔ˧˩ ve˧ jo˧˩. Co˧ ha˧ teʔ˩ ve˧ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, cʰɔ˧ ja˥˧ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ o˥˧ ve˧ lɛ˧˩, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ ɔ˧˩ qʰɔ˧ lo˧ ba˧ la˧ lɛ˧, naʔ˥ hoʔ˩ ve˧ lɛ˧˩ ɔ˧˩ ɣəʔ˥ tʰaʔ˩ ma˥˧ ɣa˥˧.
p b mb t d nd q(i) j(i) nj(i) k g ng kr gr
f v sh/x(i) y h gh
m n gn
l
a e o ei/ie er ou i ir u
a a̠ á à ạ ak ák

Ọ kír bi̠r tà gak Dò kò da̠ vei yọu. Dò kò òu vei ghịrxia nge qiè le Dò kò òu vei lẹ, ghịrxia pek vei yọu. Dò kò òu vei lẹ, ọ kír bi̠r tà gak ghịrxia nge dèi nge qiè da̠ vei yọu. Kra ber ẹi vei tak yò dei da̠ vei yọu. Kra jiọ da̠ vei kra ber ẹi ọ kro lou jiou ha dek vei ọ jiẹr jiọ vei yọ. Jiou ha deik vei où vei lẹ, qio yà vei ọ ghérk òu vei lẹ, nák houk vei ọ kro lou ba la le, nák houk vei lẹ ọ ghérk tak mà ghà.

Extra bonus:
ph p b th t d chh ch j kh k g qh q
f v sh y h gh
m n ng
l
a è â é e o i u ou
A a aA Aa aa AK ak

ââ khuU pu THAa kak TÂâ KHÂâ chââ ta VÉ yoo. TÂâ KHÂâ Oo VÉ ghuuSHA GÈ CHHÈè LÈ TÂâ KHÂâ Oo VÉ lèè, ghuuSHA phèk VÉ yoo. etc...
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Romanise this, because why not.
  • /mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/
    /pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/
    /βʷ β βʲ ðʲ ð ðʷ ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/
    /rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/
  • /ɨ ə ä/
    /ɨ́ ə́ ä́/
    /ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/

  • + phonemic stress
/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/

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/mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/ <m m m n n n ñ ñ ñ>
/pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/ <p p p t t t k k k q q q>
/βʷ β βʲ ðʲ ð ðʷ ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/ <v v v d d d g g g>
/rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/ <r r r w w j>


/ɨ ə ä/ <i/uy/u ei/y/ou e/a/o>
/ɨ́ ə́ ä́/ <í...>
/ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/ <ì...>



+ phonemic stress <ih...> but defaults to initial

́
/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
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/mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/ mw m my nw n ny ngw ng ngy
/pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/ pw p py tw t ty kw k ky qw q qy
/βʷ β βʲ ðʷ ð ðʲ ɣʷ ɣ ɣʲ/ bw b by dw d dy gw g gy
/rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/ rw r ry w h y

/ɨ ə ä/ ı e a
/ɨ́ ə́ ä́/ í é á
/ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/ ì è à

+ phonemic stress (shown by doubling the vowel if stress doesn't fall on the penultimate syllable)

/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
pyédwi qjàtee yı wíkyì pé byahé mátwere nyítyakáá ngéme de myèbwa qwáne nwìpwa bèdyé qa gègyàà kwı kígwé ryèrwee ngwengyíí

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/mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/ m m m n n n ng ng ng
/pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/ p p p t t t k k k c c c
/βʷ β βʲ ðʷ ð ðʲ ɣʷ ɣ ɣʲ/ b b b d d d g g g
/rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/ r r r h h h

/ɨ ə ä/ y ə a
/ʲɨ ʲə ʲä/ i e ɛ
/ʷɨ ʷə ʷä/ u o ɔ
(/w ɰ j/ count as /ɰʷ ɰ ɰʲ/ for the purpose of choosing vowel graphemes)

high tone = í ý ú é ə́ ó ɛ́ á ɔ́
low tone = ì ỳ ù è ə̀ ò ɛ̀ à ɔ̀

+ phonemic stress (shown by doubling the vowel if stress doesn't fall on the penultimate syllable)

/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
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Click wrote:Romanise this, because why not.
  • /mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/
    /pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/
    /βʷ β βʲ ðʲ ð ðʷ ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/
    /rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/
  • /ɨ ə ä/
    /ɨ́ ə́ ä́/
    /ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/

  • + phonemic stress
/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
This seems like it could be a close relative to the one I posted above.

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/mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/ <mu m mı nu n nı ņu ņ ņı>
/pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/ <pu p pı tu t tı cu c/k kı qu q qı>
/βʷ β βʲ ðʷ ð ðʲ ɣʷ ɣ ɣʲ/ <wu w wı du d dı gu g gı>
/rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/ <ru r rı u o ı>
/ɨ ə ä/ <ɵ e a>
/ɨ́ ə́ ä́/ <ō ē ā>
/ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/ <o e a>

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/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
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Insular Kett

/p ɓ t tʙ̥ ts k/
/f s x h/
/m n ŋ/
/l r/
/j ɥ w/
/a e/

/h/ only appears word-initially preceding a vowel
/tʙ̥/ may be realized [ɸʷ]
geminated consonants are devoiced and preaspirated
stress is contrastive
syllabic sonorants are allowed, but not in stressed syllables
/ej eɥ ew/ are realized as before a consonant, there's more allophony that should be obvious from the sample
/w/ is [v] syllable-initially preceded by a sonority peak (i.e. when phonetically intervocalic)
/e/ ranges from [e~ə] but I'm not writing that in the phonetic transcription since it doesn't really matter

/rakɥanːe ˈkaiɓanː ˈfarːɥ̩ts, em njan ˈwewrw̩s bent. ˈxeman ˈleɥen tsal haˈrejt em ˈpaŋrj̩ haˈpeɥst. ˈwantam tsaˈɓe atʙ̥ˈkeɥŋenː ˈsajran feˈnewtse haˈtsent. xan ˈaɥtʙ̥tsaŋː hajr j̩ˈfajts haˈjasaŋ, xanː reɥrː lat haˈkawŋ, hanː ˈletak haˈkawŋ/
[ˈrakɥœʰn̥ɪ ˈkæjɓɐʰn̥ ˈfaʰʂʏts, em ɲæn ˈvurʊs ɓent. ˈxemɐn lɵɥʏn tsal hɐˈrit em ˈpaŋʑi haˈpyst. ˈvantɐm tsɐˈɓe ɔɸʷˈkyŋɪʰn̥ sæjʑɐn fɪˈnutsɪ hɐˈtsent. xan ˈœyɸʷtsɐʰŋ̥ hæjʑ iˈfæjtɕ hɐˈjæsɐŋ, xaʰn̥ ryʰʂ lat hɐˈkɔwŋ, haʰn̥ ˈletɐk hɐˈkɔwŋ]
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/p ɓ t tʙ̥ ts k/ <p b t v c k>
/f s x h/ <f s x h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/l r/ <l r>
/j ɥ w/ <y ẅ w> or ɥV = y + rounded vowel
/a e/ <a e>
/aj aɥ aw/ <ä ö o>
/ej eɥ ew/ <i ü u>
/j̩ ɥ̩ w̩/ <i ü u>
: = h
word-initial stress not marked

/rakɥanːe ˈkaiɓanː ˈfarːɥ̩ts, em njan ˈwewrw̩s bent. ˈxeman ˈleɥen tsal haˈrejt em ˈpaŋrj̩ haˈpeɥst. ˈwantam tsaˈɓe atʙ̥ˈkeɥŋenː ˈsajran feˈnewtse haˈtsent. xan ˈaɥtʙ̥tsaŋː hajr j̩ˈfajts haˈjasaŋ, xanː reɥrː lat haˈkawŋ, hanː ˈletak haˈkawŋ/
[ˈrakɥœʰn̥ɪ ˈkæjɓɐʰn̥ ˈfaʰʂʏts, em ɲæn ˈvurʊs ɓent. ˈxemɐn lɵɥʏn tsal hɐˈrit em ˈpaŋʑi haˈpyst. ˈvantɐm tsɐˈɓe ɔɸʷˈkyŋɪʰn̥ sæjʑɐn fɪˈnutsɪ hɐˈtsent. xan ˈœyɸʷtsɐʰŋ̥ hæjʑ iˈfæjtɕ hɐˈjæsɐŋ, xaʰn̥ ryʰʂ lat hɐˈkɔwŋ, haʰn̥ ˈletɐk hɐˈkɔwŋ]
Rakyöhne kebahn fahrüc, em nyan wurus bent. Xeman lüün cal harít em pagri hapǘst. Wantam cabé avkǘgehn seran fenúce hacént. Xan övcahg her iféc hayásag, xahn rühr lat hakóg, hahn letak hakóg.

or
Rakyöhne kebahn fahrüc, em nyan wurus bent. Xeman lüün cal harít em pañri hapǘst. Wantam cabé avkǘgehn seran fenúce hacént. Xan övcahñ her iféc hayásañ, xahn rühr lat hakóñ, hahn letak hakóñ.
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Pinetree wrote:
Click wrote:
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Romanise this, because why not.
  • /mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/
    /pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/
    /βʷ β βʲ ðʲ ð ðʷ ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/
    /rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/
  • /ɨ ə ä/
    /ɨ́ ə́ ä́/
    /ɨ̀ ə̀ ä̀/
  • + phonemic stress
/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/
This seems like it could be a close relative to the one I posted above.
Could be, but I’d already written up the diachronics for this one half a year ago – the ancestor language had /m n p b t d s z k g ʔ r j i iː e eː a aː o oː/ for its phoneme inventory.

Also, your phonology rocks.

Cedh, I like the second one very much, and I’m going to base my final romanisation on it.
  • /mʷ m mʲ nʷ n nʲ ŋʷ ŋ ŋʲ/ m m m n n n ŋ ŋ ŋ
    /pʷ p pʲ tʷ t tʲ kʷ k kʲ ʔʷ ʔ ʔʲ/ p p p t t t k k k c c c
    /βʷ β βʲ ðʲ ð ðʷ ɣʲ ɣ ɣʷ/ v v v y y y h h h
    /rʷ r rʲ w ɰ j/ r r r ʼ ʼ ʼ
– /w/ /ɰ/ and /j/ are treated as /ɰʷ/, /ɰ/ and /ɰʲ/.
  • /ɨ ə ä/ ᵼ ə a
    /ʲɨ ʲə ʲä/ ı e ɛ
    /ʷɨ ʷə ʷä/ u o ɔ
High tone is marked with an acute, and low tone with a grave accent.

Stress is assumed to lie on the penultimate syllable, and is otherwise marked with an underdot.

péyu cɛ̀tə̣ ʼı ʼúkı pə́ vɛʼə́ mátòrə nítɛkạ́ ŋə́mə yə mèvɔ ʔɔ́nə̣ nùpɔ və̀yé ca hə̀hɛ̣̀ ku kᵼ́hó rè ro ŋoŋı̣́
/ˈpʲə́ðʷɨ ʔʲä̀ˈtə ˈjɨ ˈwɨ́kʲɨ̀ ˈpə́ ˈβʲäɰə́ mä́ˈtʷə̀rə nʲɨ́tʲäˈkä́ ˈŋə́mə ˈðə ˈmʲə̀βʷä ʔʷä́ˈnə ˈnʷɨ̀pʷä ˈβə̀ðʲə́ ˈʔä ɣə̀ˈɣʲä̀ ˈkʷɨ ˈkɨ́ɣʷə́ rʲə̀ˈrʷə ŋʷəˈŋʲɨ́/

After restricting tone to stressed syllables and several other tweaks:

péyu cɛtə̇ ʼı ʼúkı pə́ vɛʼə matòrə nıtɛká ŋə́mə yə mèvɔ ʔɔnə̇ nùpɔ və̀ye ca həhɛ̇ ku kᵼ́ho rè ro ŋoŋí
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/p ɓ t tʙ̥ ts k/ p b t tv z c
/f s x h/ v s h ∅
/m n ŋ/ m n g
/l r/ l r
/j ɥ w/ ı y u
/a e/ a e

– Geminated /ŋ/ is written ng.
– /j/ and /w/ are written ȷ and v word- or syllable-initially.
– /ej/, /eɥ/ and /ew/ are also written ı, y and u.

Rakyanne caıbann varryz, em nıan vurus bent. Heman leyen zal arít em pagrı apýst. Vantam zabé atvcýgenn naıran venúze azént. Han aytvzang aırıfáız aȷásag, hann ryrr lat acáug, ann letac acáug.
/rakɥanːe ˈkaiɓanː ˈfarːɥ̩ts, em njan ˈwewrw̩s bent. ˈxeman ˈleɥen tsal haˈrejt em ˈpaŋrj̩ haˈpeɥst. ˈwantam tsaˈɓe atʙ̥ˈkeɥŋenː ˈsajran feˈnewtse haˈtsent. xan ˈaɥtʙ̥tsaŋː hajr j̩ˈfajts haˈjasaŋ, xanː reɥrː lat haˈkawŋ, hanː ˈletak haˈkawŋ/

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Here's a consonant inventory, since the vowels are easy.

/p t ʧ c k q ʔ/
/pʰ tʰ ʧʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/
/ɬ/
/β ð ɹ ʒ j ɰ ʁ ʕ ɦ/
/l ʎ/
/m n ŋ/

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/p t ʧ c k q ʔ/ p t č c k q ʔ
/pʰ tʰ ʧʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ ph th čh ch kh qh
/ɬ/ hl/ł
/β ð ɹ ʒ j ɰ ʁ ʕ ɦ/ v z r ž y g x ʕ h
/l ʎ/ l ly/ľ
/m n ŋ/ m n ŋ

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KathAveara wrote:Here's a consonant inventory, since the vowels are easy.

/p t ʧ c k q ʔ/ b d j ď g q '
/pʰ tʰ ʧʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ p t c ť k qh
/β ð ɹ ʒ j ɰ ʁ ʕ ɦ/ v z r ž y ǧ ř x h
/ɬ l ʎ/ s l ľ
/m n ŋ/ m n ň
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p t c ky k q '
ph th ch khy kh qh
b d r j y w x g h
s l ly
m n ng

or
p t ty c k q '
etc
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Insular Kett:

/p ɓ t tʙ̥ ts k/ <p b t tv tz c>
/f s x h/ <f s ch h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r/ <l r>
/j ɥ w/ <i/j y u/w>
/a e/ <a/o e>

Racyónne cáibann fárrytz, em nian wéurus bent. Chéman léyen tzal haréit em pángri hapéyst. Wántam tzabé otbcéyngenn sáiran fenéutze hatzént. Chan óytbtzanng hair ifáitz hajásang, chann reyrr lat hacóung, hann létac hacóung.
/rakɥanːe ˈkaiɓanː ˈfarːɥ̩ts, em njan ˈwewrw̩s bent. ˈxeman ˈleɥen tsal haˈrejt em ˈpaŋrj̩ haˈpeɥst. ˈwantam tsaˈɓe atʙ̥ˈkeɥŋenː ˈsajran feˈnewtse haˈtsent. xan ˈaɥtʙ̥tsaŋː hajr j̩ˈfajts haˈjasaŋ, xanː reɥrː lat haˈkawŋ, hanː ˈletak haˈkawŋ/



/p t ʧ c k q ʔ/ <b d ds ḑ g ģ q>
/pʰ tʰ ʧʰ cʰ kʰ qʰ/ <p t ts ţ k ķ>
/ɬ/ <ç>
/β ð ɹ ʒ j ɰ ʁ ʕ ɦ/ <v z r zs j w ŗ ḩ h>
/l ʎ/ <l ļ>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ņ>
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Current Insular Kett orthography, by the way:

/rakɥanːe ˈkaiɓanː ˈfarːɥ̩ts, em njan ˈwewrw̩s bent. ˈxeman ˈleɥen tsal haˈrejt em ˈpaŋrj̩ haˈpeɥst. ˈwantam tsaˈɓe atʙ̥ˈkeɥŋenː ˈsajran feˈnewtse haˈtsent. xan ˈaɥtʙ̥tsaŋː hajr j̩ˈfajts haˈjasaŋ, xanː reɥrː lat haˈkawŋ, hanː ˈletak haˈkawŋ/
Rakyanne kaibann farryc, em nian veurus bent. Heman leyen cal hareit em pañri hapeyst. Vantam cabe aṭkeyñenn sairan feneuce ḥacent. Han ayṭcaññ ḥair ifaic ḥajasañ, hann reyrr lat ḥakauñ, hann letak ḥakauñ.

And the old one:

Rakyanne kaibann farryc, em nian veurus bent. Heman leyen cal hareit em pangri hapeyst. Vantam cabe atwkeyngenn sairan feneuce ḩacent. Han aytwcangg ḩair ifaic ḩaiasang, hann reyrr lat ḩakaung, hann letak ḩakaung.

Rakẅan:e kayban: far:ẅc, em nyan wewrws bent. Xeman leẅen cal hary:t em pagry hapẅ:st. Wantam cabe: atpkẅ:gen: sayran fenw:ce hace:nt. Xan aẅtpcagg hayr yfa:yc haya:sag, xan: rẅr: lat haka:wg, han: letak haka:wg. (no)
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Alyutor:

/p t t͡sʲ k q ʡ ʔ/
/v ɣ/
/m n nʲ ŋ/
/w l lʲ j/
/r/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː o oː/
/ə a aː/

/ŋaˈnina ulʲˈlʲaʔutkuʔuttək nanˈnillitətkənina/
/qəˈlʲippə təˈtukki ˈɣeqəmaslata aˈmalka/
/əˈnannə ɣəmmə iˈnaɣale/
/tiˈtaqa qutˈkinʲnʲaqunak maŋˈkiʔana ɣaˈlaʔulin ənnəʔən/
/ˈɣanvəlin qutˈkinʲnʲaqunak təlɣəlŋən ˈŋantiŋ/
Knowledge is power, and power corrupts. So study hard and be evil!

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/p t t͡sʲ k q ʡ ʔ/ <p t c k q x h>
/v ɣ/ <v g>
/m n nʲ ŋ/ <m n ñ ng>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l ly y>
/r/ <r>

/i iː u uː/ <i ii u uu>
/e eː o oː/ <ei eei o oo>
/ə a aː/ <e a aa>

Default stress is second syllable.

Nganina ullyahutkuhuttek nannillitetkenina. Qelyippe tetukki géiqemaslata amalka. Enanne gemme inagalei. Titaqa qutkiññaqunak mangkihana galahulin ennehen. Gánvelin qutkiññaqunak telgelngen ngánting.

Ŋanina ullyahutkuhuttek nannillitetkenina. Qelyippe tetukki géiqemaslata amalka. Enanne gemme inagalei. Titaqa qutkiññaqunak maŋkihana galahulin ennehen. Gánvelin qutkiññaqunak telgelŋen ŋántiŋ.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/p t t͡sʲ k q ʡ ʔ/ <p t ţ k q q '>
/v ɣ/ <v g>
/m n nʲ ŋ/ <m n ņ ng>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l ļ j>
/r/ <r>

/i iː u uː/ <i ii u uu>
/e eː o oː/ <e ee o oo>
/ə a aː/ <y a aa>

Nganina uļļa'utku'uttyk nannillitytkynina. Qyļippy tytukki geqymaslata amalka. Ynanny gymmy inagaly. Titaqa qutkiņņaqunak mangki'ana gala'ulin ynny'yn. Ganvylin qutkiņņaqunak tylgylngyn nganting.
Nganina ullya'utku'uttëk nannillitëtkënina. Qëlyippë tëtukki geqëmaslata amalka. Ënannë gëmmë inagalë. Titaqa qutkinnyaqunak mangki'ana gala'ulin ënnë'ën. Ganvëlin qutkinnyaqunak tëlgëlngën nganting.
Knowledge is power, and power corrupts. So study hard and be evil!

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Alyutor:

/p t t͡sʲ k q ʡ ʔ/ <p t c k q x h>
/v ɣ/ <v g>
/m n nʲ ŋ/ <m n nj ng>
/w l lʲ j/ <w l lj j>
/r/ <r>

/i iː u uː/ <i ii u uu>
/e eː o oː/ <e ee o oo>
/ə a aː/ <y a aa>

/ŋaˈnina ulʲˈlʲaʔutkuʔuttək nanˈnillitətkənina/
/qəˈlʲippə təˈtukki ˈɣeqəmaslata aˈmalka/
/əˈnannə ɣəmmə iˈnaɣale/
/tiˈtaqa qutˈkinʲnʲaqunak maŋˈkiʔana ɣaˈlaʔulin ənnəʔən/
/ˈɣanvəlin qutˈkinʲnʲaqunak təlɣəlŋən ˈŋantiŋ/

Nganina uljljahutkuhuttyk nannillitytkynina.
Qyljippy tytukki geqymaslata amalka.
Ynanny gymmy inagale.
Titaqa qutkinjnjaqunak mangkihana galahulin ynnyhyn.
Ganvtlin qutkinjnjaqunak tylgylngyn nganting.

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