Romanization challenge thread

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Kabardian

/m n/ m n
/p pʼ b t tʼ d k kʼ (g) (kʲ) kʲʼ kʷ kʷʼ gʷ q qʼ qʷ qʷʼ ʔ ʔʷ/ p ph b t th d k kh g kı khı ku khu gu q qh qu qhu h hu
/ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ qχ qχʷ/ ts tsh dz tı thı dı kg kgu
/f fʼ v s z ɬ ɬʼ ɮ ʃ ʒ ɕ ɕʼ ʑ x ɣ xʷ χ ʁ χʷ ʁʷ ħ/ f fh v s z sl slh zl sı zı cı chı yı c y cu x gx xu gxu rh
/r l w j/ r l u ı

/a aː ə/ e o a

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Chukchi:

/m n ŋ/
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/
/β ɬ ɣ/
/ɻ j/
/i u e ə o a/

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./

Ngireq amtjawtjëwatjgët getlen'ute wal'ët. Ëninel'ën ujnge enginqejkël'in, ëtlan'ogtë ngenqajwanlak galwawlen. Qënqajwanlak, ngireq i'gët genmejngewlinet, ënqenat nëqoragenretqenat.
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Qiqqit, vowels?
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Qiqqit wrote:Chukchi:

/m n ŋ/
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/
/β ɬ ɣ/
/ɻ j/

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./[/b]
Don't forget vowels! I'm assuming it's /i u e ə o a/

Chukchi as Klingon:
m n ng
p t k K Q '
B lh gh
r y
I u e E o a

ngIreQ amKaBKEBaKghEt ghetlhen'ute Balh'Et. EnInelh'En uynge engInQeykElh'In, Etlhan'oghtE ngenqayBanlhak ghalhBaBlhen QEnBer ngenqayBanlhak, ngIreQ I'ghEt ghenmeyngBlhInet, EnQenat nEQoraghEnretQenat.

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Pole, the wrote:Qiqqit, vowels?
Ye, I forgot. I'll add.
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/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ <p t k j q h>
/β ɬ ɣ/ <v l w>
/ɻ j/ <r y>
/i u e ə o a/ <i ou e u o a>

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./
Gireq amjavjuvajwut wetlenhoute valhut. Uninelhun ouyge eginqeykulhin, utlanhowte genqayvanlak walvavlen. Qunver genqayvanlak, gireq ihwut wenmeygevlinet, unqenat nuqorawenretqenat.

/m n ŋ/ <m n ñ>
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ <p t k c q h>
/β ɬ ɣ/ <b l g>
/ɻ j/ <r j~i>
/i u e ə o a/ <i u e y o a>
Ñireq amcabcebacgyt getlenhute balhyt. Yninelhyn uiñe eñinqeikylhin, ytlanhogty ñenqaibanlak galbablen. Qynber ñenqaibanlak, ñireq ihgyt genmeiñeblinet, ynqenat nyqoragynretqenat.
or
Ñireq amcaucevacgyt getlenhute valhyt. Yninelhyn uiñe eñinqeikylhin, ytlanhogty ñenqaivanlak galvaulen. Qynver ñenqaivanlak, ñireq ihgyt genmeiñeulinet, ynqenat nyqoragynretqenat.
or
Ñirekh amcaucevachyt hetlenûte valŷt. Yninelŷn uiñe eñinkheikylîn, ytlanôgty ñenkhaivanlak halvaulen. Khynver ñenkhaivanlak, ñirekh i'hyt henmeiñeulinet, ynkhenat nykhorahynretkhenat.
or
Ñireg amcaucevachyt hetlenûte valŷt. Yninelŷn uiñe eñingeikylîn, ytlanôhty ñengaivanlak halvaulen. Gynver ñengaivanlak, ñireg i'hyt henmeiñeulinet, yngenat nygorahynretgenat.
or
Ñirec amsausevashyt hetlenûte valŷt. Yninelŷn uiñe eñinceikylîn, ytlanôhty ñencaivanlak halvaulen. Cynver ñencaivanlak, ñirec i'hyt henmeiñeulinet, yncenat nycorahynretcenat.
or
Ñirec amsausevasgyt getlennute vallyt. Yninellyn uiñe eñinceikyllin, ytlannogty ñencaivanlak galvaulen. Cynver ñencaivanlak, ñirec ihgyt genmeiñeulinet, yncenat nycoragynretcenat.
or
Ñireq amsausevasgyt getlennute vallyt. Yninellyn uiñe eñinqeikyllin, ytlannogty ñenqaivanlak galvaulen. Qynver ñenqaivanlak, ñireq ihgyt genmeiñeulinet, ynqenat nyqoragynretcenat.
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Qiqqit wrote:Chukchi:
/m n ŋ/ m n ŋ
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ p t k c q h
/β ɬ ɣ/ b l g
/ɻ j/ r y
/i u e ə o a/ i u e ë o a

Ŋireq amcabcëbacgët getlenhute balhët. Ëninelhën uyŋe eŋinqeykëlhin, ëtlanhogtë ŋenqaybanlak galbablen. Qënber ŋenqaybanlak, ŋireq ihgët genmeyŋeblinet, ënqenat nëqoragënretqenat.

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/m n ŋ/ m n g
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ p t c k x
/β ɬ ɣ/ v l h
/ɻ j/ r y
/i u e ə o a/ ı u e ə o a

Gırek amcavcəvachət hetlenxute valxət. Ǝnınelxən uyge egınkeykəlxın, ətlanxohtə genkayvanlak halvavlen. Kənver genkayvanlan, gırek ıxhət henmeygevlınet, ənqenat nəkorahənretkenat.
/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./

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Chukchi as Welsh:
m n ng
p t c ch q h
f ll rh
r i
i u e y o a

Ngireq amchafchyfachrhyt rhetllenhute fallhyt. Yninellhyn uinge enginqeicyllhin, ytllanhorhty ngenqaifanllac rhallfafllen. Qynfer ngenqaifanllac, ngireq ihrhyt rhenmeingefllinet, ynqenat nyqorarhynretqenat.

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./

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/m n ŋ/ m n g
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ p t k c q qh
/β ɬ ɣ/ v l gh
/ɻ j/ r j
/i u e ə o a/ i u e eh o a

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./
Gireq amcavcehvacgheht ghetlenqhute valqheht. EHninelqhehn ujge eginqejkehlqhin, ehtlanqhoghteh genqajvanlak ghalvavlen. Qehnver genqajvanlak, gireq iqhgheht ghenmejgevlinet, ehnqenat nehqoraghehnretqenat.

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as Arve

/m n ŋ/ <m n gn>
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ <p~b t~d k~g st hr~rg ck>
/β ɬ ɣ/ <b~v s g~rv~vr>
/ɻ j/ <r j> but /aj əj uj/ <ih ei öh>
/i u e ə o a/ <i u e o ö a>

/ŋireq amcaβcəβacɣət ɣetɬenʔute βaɬʔət. ənineɬʔən ujŋe eŋinqejkəɬʔin, ətɬanʔoɣtə ŋenqajβanɬak ɣaɬβaβɬen. qənβeɻ ŋenqajβanɬak, ŋireq iʔɣət ɣenmejŋeβɬinet, ənqenat nəqoɻaɣənɻetqenat./

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Rawang

/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/
/s z ʃ/
/m n ŋ/
/l r j w/
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ + length
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling (written here as high, mid, low)
All syllables ending in plosives are high. Stress is contrastive; unstressed syllables are toneless. Length apparently contrasts with sequences of identical vowels.

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nɯ̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.
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/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ts c k g q>
/s z ʃ/ <s z sh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r j w/ <l r y v>
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ <a e y o i w u>
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling <ax aj ah>

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nɯ̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.

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Rawang

/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d c ch k g q>
/s z ʃ/ <s z sh>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e ə o i ɨ u/ <a e ẹ o i ụ u>
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling <á a à> (high tone before coda plosives is unmarked)
Stress is unmarked.
Vowel length is marked by doubling the vowel letter.

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nø̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.

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/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d c č k g/kg '>
/s z ʃ/ <s/ss z/s š>
/m n ŋ/ <m n gg/g>
/l r j w/ <l r j v>
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ + length <a e ơ o i ư u>
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling (written here as high, mid, low) <á a à>
All syllables ending in plosives are high. -unmarked, unstressed marked with underdot

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nɯ̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.

Té ợtơgpè nưčờgvàpè íe. Dờmšàpè nư àgšớr vapè íe. Čờgsògpè nư, cơnšì sórí dợsưm bờnlì tạ' dợzưmšì ve tị'pè í jàg. Čờgnơgpè nư, cơnšì we ợnípè wapè íe, čờgsògpè tạ' nơmšì rơgšìpè íe. Àgní nư, bờnlì šợle tạ' dợzưmò nừ, àgníí dợsưm bứò tợlú tạ' dờmšà nư vàjàgì.
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/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d ts c k g h>
/s z ʃ/ <s z x>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r j w/ <l r j v>
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ + length <a e y o i w u>
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling (written here as high, mid, low) <ê é è>

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nɯ̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.

Tê ytýngpè nẃcỳngwàpè îé. Dỳmxàpè nẃ àngxŷr wápè îé. Cỳngzòngpè nẃ, tsýnxì sôrî dyzẃm bỳnlì tah dyzẃmxì wé tihpè î jàng. Cỳngnýngpè nẃ, tsýnxì wé ynîpè wápè ié, cỳngzòngpè tah nýmxì rýngxìpè îé. Àngnî nẃ, bỳnlì xylé tah dyzẃmò nẁ, àngnîî dyzẃm bŵò tylú tah dỳmxà nẃ vàyàngì.

or

/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d c q k g h>
/s z ʃ/ <s ss x>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ <a ei e o ie i u>
<á ā à>
length = double vowel

Téi etēngpè nīqèngwàpèi íeēi. Dèmxàpèi nī àngxér wāpè íeēi. Qèngssòngpèi nī, cēnxìe sóríe dessīm bènlìe tah dezīmxìe wēi tiehpèi íe yàng. Qèngnēngpèi nī, cēnxìe wēi eníepèi wāpèi ieēi, qèngssòngpèi tah nēmxìe rēngxìepèi íeēi. Àngníe nī, bènlìe xelēi tah dessīimò nì, àngníeíe dessīm bíò telú tah dèmxà ní wàyàangìe.
or
Téi etēngpè nīqèngwàpèi íeēi. Dèmshàpèi nī àngshér wāpè íeēi. Qèngssòngpèi nī, cēnshìe sóríe dessīm bènlìe tah dezīmshìe wēi tiehpèi íe yàng. Qèngnēngpèi nī, cēnshìe wēi eníepèi wāpèi ieēi, qèngssòngpèi tah nēmshìe rēngshìepèi íeēi. Àngníe nī, bènlìe shelēi tah dessīimò nì, àngníeíe dessīm bíò telú tah dèmshà ní wàyàangìe.
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/m n ŋ/ <p̃ t̃ g̃>
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ <p t g ǧ c č>
/β ɬ ɣ/ <ṗ ṫ ġ>
/ɻ j/ <ţ ç>
/i u e ə o a/ <p̰ p̤ ṕ p̂ p̀ p̥>

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Rawang

/p b t d ts~s tʃ k g ʔ/ <p b t d z * ** g h> *<c> before /i ɯ u/, <cz> elsewhere. **<cg> before /i ɯ u/, <c> elsewhere.
/s z ʃ/ <s sz ss>
/m n ŋ/ <m n nn>
/l r j w/ <l r i u>
/a e ə o i ɯ u/ <a e y o i w u> Length is indicated with a circumflex: <â ê ŷ ô î ŵ û>.
Tones: high falling, mid, low falling <aƨ aз aч>.
Stress is unmarked, but implied by a tone letter (?).
The sequences /ŋn/ and /nŋ/ are represented as <nn'n> and <n'nn>, respectively.

té ətə̄ŋpè nɯ̄tʃə̀ŋwàpè íē. də̀mʃàpè nɯ̄ àŋʃə́r wāpè íē. tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì sórí dəzɯ̄m bə̀nlì taʔ dəzɯ̄mʃì wē tiʔpè í yàŋ. tʃə̀ŋnə̄ŋpè nɯ̄, tsə̄nʃì wē ənípè wāpè iē, tʃə̀ŋzòŋpè taʔ nə̄mʃì rə̄ŋʃìpè íē. àŋní nɯ̄, bə̀nlì ʃəlē taʔ dəzɯ̄:mò nɯ̀, àŋníí dəzɯ̄m bɯ́ò təlú taʔ də̀mʃà nɯ̄ wàyà:ŋì.

Teƨ ytyзnnpeч nwзczyчnnuaчpeч iƨeз. Dyчmssaчpeч nwз aчnnssyƨr uaзpeч iƨeз. Czyчnnszoчnnpeч nwз, zaзnssiч soƨriƨ dyzwзm byчnliч tah dyzwзmssiч ueз tihpeч iƨ iaчnn. Czyчnn'nyзnnpeч nwз, zyзnssiч ueз yniƨpeч waзpeч ieз, czyчnnszoчnnpeч tah nyзmssiч iƨeз. Aчnn'niƨ nwз, byчnliч ssyleз tah dyszŵзmoч nwч, aчnn'niiƨ dyszwзm bwƨoч tyluƨ tah dyчmssaч nwз uaчiâчnniч.

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Nortaneous wrote:g̰̃ţ̤́c ̥p̃ǧ̥ṗǧ̂ṗ̥ǧġ̂t ġ̤́tṫ̤́t̃č̤t̤́ ṗ̥ṫč̂t. ̂t̰̃t̤̃́ṫč̂t̃ ̤çg̤̃́ ̤́g̰̃t̃ć̤çĝṫč̰t̃, ̂tṫ̥t̃č̀ġt̂ g̤̃́t̃c̥çṗ̥t̃ṫ̥g ġ̥ṫṗ̥ṗṫ̤́t̃. ĉt̃ṗ̤́ţ g̤̃́t̃c̥çṗ̥t̃ṫ̥g, g̰̃ţ̤́c ̰čġ̂t ġ̤́t̃p̤̃́çg̤̃́ṗṫ̰t̤̃́t, ̂t̃ć̤t̥̃t t̃̂c̀ţ̥ġ̂t̃ţ̤́tć̤t̥̃t.
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Nortaneous wrote:/m n ŋ/ <p̃ t̃ g̃>
/p t k c~ç q ʔ/ <p t g ǧ c č>
/β ɬ ɣ/ <ṗ ṫ ġ>
/ɻ j/ <ţ ç>
/i u e ə o a/ <p̰ p̤ ṕ p̂ p̀ p̥>
Not enough ø̈mlaut, need more ø̈mlaut.

But in all seriousness, that is an interesting strike at making the latin alphabet feature . . . al (sp?)
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WeepingElf wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:g̰̃ţ̤́c ̥p̃ǧ̥ṗǧ̂ṗ̥ǧġ̂t ġ̤́tṫ̤́t̃č̤t̤́ ṗ̥ṫč̂t. ̂t̰̃t̤̃́ṫč̂t̃ ̤çg̤̃́ ̤́g̰̃t̃ć̤çĝṫč̰t̃, ̂tṫ̥t̃č̀ġt̂ g̤̃́t̃c̥çṗ̥t̃ṫ̥g ġ̥ṫṗ̥ṗṫ̤́t̃. ĉt̃ṗ̤́ţ g̤̃́t̃c̥çṗ̥t̃ṫ̥g, g̰̃ţ̤́c ̰čġ̂t ġ̤́t̃p̤̃́çg̤̃́ṗṫ̰t̤̃́t, ̂t̃ć̤t̥̃t t̃̂c̀ţ̥ġ̂t̃ţ̤́tć̤t̥̃t.
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I could need a new romanization for my conlang, somehow I begin to dislike the usage of trigraphs for some consonants.

My own script, based on Proto-Semitic alphabet, heavily remodelled to look a bit like Japanese Hiragana and also a syllabic script, is on the way and close to finalization and costs me some nerves. However, a Latin script is always nice to have.

Nisha

/m n̪ mʲ n̪ʲ/
/p b pʲ t̪ d̪ t̪ʲ k g kʲ q ʔ/
/ɸ ɸʲ θ θʲ s ʃ ʃʲ ʒ ħ h hʲ/
/t͡ʃ t͡ʃʲ/
/j w wʲ/
/r rʲ/

/ɢ/ occurs as an allophone of /g/ in some environments and /x/ or /χ/ is a lowered variant of /ħ/,

/a a: i i: u u: æ/
/ai/ /ui/

Quick example:
/tawakasiʲna:mat wa tawawidija ka sisa:ram ħad baradaram anʲut͡ʃija/

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/m n̪ mʲ n̪ʲ/ m n my ny
/p b pʲ t̪ d̪ t̪ʲ k g kʲ q ʔ/ p b py t d ty k g ky q x
/ɸ ɸʲ θ θʲ s ʃ ʃʲ ʒ ħ h hʲ/ f fy θ θy s š šy ž ḫ h hy
/t͡ʃ t͡ʃʲ/ c cy
/j w wʲ/ y w wy
/r rʲ/ r ry

/a aː i iː u uː æ/ a â i î u û e
/ai ui/ ai ui

/tawakasinʲa:mat wa tawawidija ka sisa:ram ħad baradaram anʲut͡ʃija/
tawakasinyâmat wa tawawidiya ka sisâram ḫad baradaram anyuciya


Alternatively, /θ θʲ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʲ ħ w wʲ/ c cy č čy ħ v vy and/or /aː iː uː/ á í ú:

/tawakasinʲa:mat wa tawawidija ka sisa:ram ħad baradaram anʲut͡ʃija/
tavakasinyámat va tavavidiya ka sisáram ħad baradaram anyučiya

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@mezziah: What's the distribution of the palatalized consonants? Are they more common than non-palatalized consonants before front vowels but less common elsewhere, to use a fairly common pattern? Do they contrast with sequences of a consonant and /j/?

Also, I'm kind of curious about something. Contrastive palatalization is consistently absent on voiced obstruents. Is there a historical reason for this, by any chance? I say contrastive palatalization because I don't know if, say, /b d g ʒ/ have palatalized allophones.

In the meantime, here's a tentative romanization, which I might improve depending on your answers to these questions:

/m n̪ mʲ n̪ʲ/ m n my ny
/p b pʲ t̪ d̪ t̪ʲ k g kʲ q ʔ/ p b py t d ty k g ky q ʻ
/ɸ ɸʲ θ θʲ s ʃ ʃʲ ʒ ħ h hʲ/ f fy z zy s x xy j kh h hy
/t͡ʃ t͡ʃʲ/ c cy
/j w wʲ/ y w wy
/r rʲ/ r ry

/a a: i i: u u: æ/ a aa i ii u uu e
/ai/ /ui/ ai ui

/tawakasiʲna:mat wa tawawidija ka sisa:ram ħad baradaram anʲut͡ʃija/
tawakasinyaamat wa tawawidiya ka sisaaram khad baradaram anyuciya
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Nisha

/m n̪ mʲ n̪ʲ/ <m n m n>
/p b pʲ t̪ d̪ t̪ʲ k g kʲ q ʔ/ <p b p t d t k g k q '>
/ɸ ɸʲ θ θʲ s ʃ ʃʲ ʒ ħ h hʲ/ <f f z z s x x j ħ h h>
/t͡ʃ t͡ʃʲ/ <c c>
/j w wʲ/ <y w w>
/r rʲ/ <r r>

/a a: i i: u u: æ/ <a~á à~â e~é i~í o~ó u~ú ä>
/ai ui/ <ai~ái ui~úi>

Left ~ Right > Non-Palatalised ~ Palatalised

/tawakasiʲna:mat wa tawawidija ka sisa:ram ħad baradaram anʲut͡ʃija/
Tawakasénàmat wa tawawidiya ka sisàram ħad baradaram anóciya/
Chengjiang wrote:Also, I'm kind of curious about something. Contrastive palatalization is consistently absent on voiced obstruents. Is there a historical reason for this, by any chance? I say contrastive palatalization because I don't know if, say, /b d g ʒ/ have palatalized allophones.
I'm also curious about this.
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