Romanization challenge thread

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/p t tɬ tʃ c k q ʔ/ <p t tl ts tj k q '>
/ɸ θ ɬ ʃ ç x χ h/ <f hd hl s hj hg hr 'h>
/β ð ɮ ʒ ʝ ɣ ʁ ɦ/ <w d l z j g r h>
/N/ <m~n>

/i u ə a/ <i u e a>

Rizuj la qita'h hetjugzi pahihl ja'hek hrahu gende.
/ʁiʒuʝ ɮa qitah ɦəcuɣʒi paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣəNðə/
[ʁiʒuj ɮa qitah ɦəcuwji paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣənrə]

/p t tɬ tʃ c k q ʔ/ <p t ƛ č c k q ʔ>
/ɸ θ ɬ ʃ ç x χ h/ <f þ ł š ç x x̂ ħ>
/β ð ɮ ʒ ʝ ɣ ʁ ɦ/ <w d l z j g r h>
/N/ <m~n>

/i u ə a/ <i u e a>

Rizuj la qitaħ hecugzi pahił jaħek x̂ahu gende.
/ʁiʒuʝ ɮa qitah ɦəcuɣʒi paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣəNðə/
[ʁiʒuj ɮa qitah ɦəcuwji paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣənrə]
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/p t tɬ tʃ c k q ʔ/ <p t d j c k q '>
/ɸ θ ɬ ʃ ç x χ h/ <f s ll sh ch x gh h>
/β ð ɮ ʒ ʝ ɣ ʁ ɦ/ <b z l r y w g v>
/N/ <m~n>

/i u ə a/ <i u e a>

Random sample
/ʁiʒuʝ ɮa qitah ɦəcuɣʒi paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣəNðə/
[ʁiʒuj ɮa qitah ɦəcuwji paɦiɬ ʝahək χaɦu ɣənrə]
Giruy la qitah vecuwri pavill yahek ghavu wenze.
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Consonants:
/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/
/s ʃ h hʷ/
/z l j w/
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/

Phonotactics: (n)(s|ʃ)(C(A|ə))CV(V)(ʔ)
(n) means a nasal that assimilates in place to the following consonant unless it's glottal. This will voice following plosives.
(C(A|ə)) means: a consonant followed either by an approximant (which then becomes syllabic) or a noncontrastive schwa. You can't have two approximants in a row.
V(V) means: either a long vowel or /i u/ followed by a vowel. They're analyzed as /i u/ because they're moraic, and each mora can bear a tone. (high or low)

There are also unstressed words, which are Cə(ʔ) and toneless. The schwa may be oral or nasal.

/h/ devoices prenasalized consonants: nda ndka nta /na ntka ntha/ [nda ndəka nt(ʰ)a].
Nasals are realized as prenasalized voiced plosives before oral vowels.

Vowels:
æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ
eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u:
+ nasality

Two tones: high, low.

/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]
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/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t ch c/qu cu h hu>
/s ʃ h hʷ/ <s x j ju>
/z l j w/ <z l y w>
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n ñ ng ngu>
[mb nd nc nk nkʷ] <b d _ g gu>
Vowels:
æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ <ä a e/é ö o i ë u>
eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u: <ää aa ee...>
+ nasality <n> (not written after nasals)

Two tones: high, low. V Ṿ

/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃə̥ki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]

Ngẹ̈ hotẹh ze gu julnạ̈ nge xquihuaạ ze btạ̈ạ̈. Ngẹ̈ẹ̈ nchö te xtoä gu hue schạ̈h xquihua cueh hezchöön. Cọn mää ze me xtụụh quyä ñu cueh dquënh je hezchöön.
or
Ngẹ̈ hotẹh ze gu julnạ̈ nge xkihuaạ ze btạ̈ạ̈. Ngẹ̈ẹ̈ ncö te xtoä gu hue scạ̈h xkihua queh hezcöön. Kọn mää ze me xtụụh kiä ñu queh dkënh je hezcöön.
or
Ngẹ̈ hotẹh ze gu julnạ̈ nge xkihuaạ ze btạ̈ạ̈. Ngẹ̈ẹ̈ ncö te xtoä gu hue scạ̈h xkihua kweh hezcöön. Kọn mää ze me xtụụh kiä ñu kweh dkënh je hezcöön.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <b d c k/q qu t tu>
/s ʃ h hʷ/ <s ś h hu>
/z l j w/ <z l i ú>
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <nú/ún n ni/in no/on nu/un>

/ə/ <er>
/æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ/ <e a á ó o i í u>
/eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u:/ <æ ar é ø å y ý ú>
nasality <m>

high, low. <Ø p>

Noímp tútápt zer noú hulnemp noerm śkituaap zer únbdæp. Noýmp nghó ter śdúæ noú tuer sgept śkitua quert tzgøm. Qomp núæp zer núerm śdúpt kiæm nium quert ndkímt her tzgøm.
/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]

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/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t c k kv q qv>
/s ʃ h hʷ/ <s sh h hv>
/z l j w/ <z l y w>
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n ny ng ngv>

/ə/ <ȃ>
/æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ/ <æ a e ø o i į u>
/eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u:/ <ææ aa ee øø oo ii įį uu>
nasality <n>

high, low. <Ø h>

Ngįn qwtehq zȃ ngu hvlnæhn ngȃn shkyqva'ah zȃ mpteȃh. Ngįȃh nchø tȃ shtueȃ ngu qvȃ scæhq shkyqva kvȃq qzcøøn. Kohn meȃ zȃ mȃn shtuuhq kiæn nyun kvȃq ntkįnq hȃ qzcøø.
/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]
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/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ - <b d t k p ʼ v>
/s ʃ h hʷ/ - <s c h f>
/z l j w/ - <z l y w>
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n tn g pn>

Vowels:
æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ <a o ai au ou i e u>
eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u: <á ó aí aú oú í é ú>

nasal low tone: -m
nasal high tone/unstressed: -n
oral low tone: -h
oral high tone: -0

/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]
gém ʼwdaiʼ z gu flnam gn ckyvooh z nbdá. gémh nthau d cduá gu v staʼh ckyvo pʼ ʼztaún. koum má z mn cdúʼh kian tnun pʼ ndkéʼn h ʼztaún.

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Consonants:
/p t c k kʷ ʔ ʔʷ/ <p t c k qu ' 'u>
/s ʃ h hʷ/ <s sh h hu>
/z l j w/ <z l y w>
/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n j g gu>

Vowels:
æ a e œ o i ɨə ʉ ə <ae a e oe o i ia u e> /e ə/ are contrasted (as are roundedness and ʉ) by their accents for tone; /ə/ is always toneless except in diphthongs (I believe).
eə: a: e: ø̝: o: i: ɨə: u: <ea aa ee eu oo ii ie uu>
Nasality <n>
High: á
Low: à
In digraphs the accent is on the first character (áe, èa, ée, èu etc.)

Gìan 'wtè' ze gú hulnàen gen shky'uáà ze mptèa. Gìen nchóe te shtúéa gú 'ue scàe' shky'uá que' 'zcéun. Kòn méa ze men shtùu' kiáen júun que' ntkíen' he 'zcéun.
/ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔwtèʔ zə ŋú hʷlnæ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃkjʔʷáà zə mptèə̀. ŋɨ̃ə̀ə̀ nchœ́ tə ʃtúéə ŋú ʔʷə scæ̀ʔ ʃkjʔʷá kʷəʔ ʔzcø̃́ø̃́. kõ̀ méə́ zə mə̃ ʃtùùʔ kĩ́æ̃́ ɲṹ kʷəʔ ntkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔzcø̃́ø̃́./
[ŋɨ̃ə̀ ʔu̥ˈtèʔ zə ⁿgʉ́ hʷl̩næ̃̀ ŋə̃ ʃki̥ˈʔʷâː zə ⁿbətèə̯ː. ŋɨ̃̀ə̯ː ⁿcʰœ́ tə sə̥twéəː ⁿgʉ́ ʔʷʊ sə̥cæ̀ʔ ʃki̥ˈʔʷá kʷʊʔ ʔz̩cø̃́ː. kõ̀ ⁿbéə̯ː zə mə̃ ʃə̥tùːʔ kjæ̃́ː ɲṹ kʷʊʔ ⁿdəkɨ̃́ə̃ʔ hə ʔz̩cø̃́ː]
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Yoruba as Yi

/b t d ɟ k g kp gb/ <b t d j k g p v>
/f s ʃ h/ <f s x h>
/l r j w/ <l r y w>
/m (n) ŋ/ <m n ng>

<a ie uo e o i u>
<p 0 t>

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/m n ɲ/ <m n ň>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ/ <f v s z š ž>
/l j ɥ w ʁ/ <l j ü u r>
Liaison: <'n 't 'z 'r etc.>

/i y u/ <i ü u>
/e ø o/ <eC/ei öC/öü oC/ou>
/ɛ œ ɔ/ <eCC/e öCC/ö oCC/o>
/ə a ɑ/ <ë aC/ae CC/a>
/ɛ̃ œ̃ ɔ̃ ɑ̃/ <eŋ öŋ oŋ aŋ>

Le föjjë s'uvre sür lë borr de braŋšë, delikatëmaŋ. Le kloššë teŋte, ležerrë'z ei fraŋšë, daŋ lë sjel klemaŋ.
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To all who have posted or will post here--I'm up for more orthography-creation challenges over in this thread.

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Re: Romanization challenge thread

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/emiromæns/

/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k g/
/tʃ dʒ/
/f v s z ʃ h/
/r l j w/

/e æ i ɛ ɪ ɤ o a ɶ ʌ u ɔ ʊ ə/
/r̩ l̩ m̩ n̩/

/lin̩ardo ju kwiro ændar næs kotʃajliəs sɛntɪndo æs flitʃajliəs dæs r̩væs do tʃɔn/

Edit: Added the /ɶ/ and /ɤ/ that were missing and fixed sample text.
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/emiromæns/
Emiromans:

/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g/ <p b t d c/k g>
/tʃ dʒ/ <tj dj>
/f v s z ʃ h/ <f v s z sj h>
/r l j w/ <r l j w>
/kw ks/ <qu x/ks>

/e æ i ɛ ɪ o a ʌ u ɔ ʊ ə/ <e/é a i/í e i o/ó a/á eo u/ú o u ae>
/r̩ l̩ m̩ n̩/ <r l m n>

Linárdo ju quiro andar nas kaxilhas sentindo as fleksilhas das rvas do tjaón.
/linardo ju kwiro ændar næs kaksɪlhæs sɛntɪndo æs flɛksɪlhæs dæs r̩væs do tʃaon/
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/emiromæns/ Emiromans

/m n ŋ/ m n ng
/p b t d k g/ p b t d c/qu g/gu
/tʃ dʒ/ ch j/g
/f v s z ʃ h/ f v s z x ħ
/r l j w/ r l y/i hu/u/ü

/e æ i ɛ ɪ o a ʌ u ɔ ʊ ə/ e/é à/a i/í è/e ì/i o/ó a/á ô u/ú ò/o ù/u ê
/r̩ l̩ m̩ n̩/ r/rr l/ll m/mm n/nn

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that vowel system, you've got to be kidding
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p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ
ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ
s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h
m n l r j w

æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui

juxxieħ ʡardaːxar nisdella ɣaraɣulin a, tsħoːgalan a. dika lulaxuoi a xilla ʡaʃ xilla yʃ. ɣaraɣuli, ʃiena bien a bina, hoʔaʃ tʼe xiʔna. xaːnzaːma jæltʃa, kʼornieʃ dæxna tsuo. tsħoːgaluo a kʼeziː dina. hoːra ʡyːranna ɣaraɣuli satosːuʃ iʒuː laxa jyødura, tqʼa tsħoːgal tsʼaħ dysura, tsynan a, ʃien a beːraʃka a ħoʒuʃ, dan diezarg a dieʃ.
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p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ <p ph pp b t th tt d k kh xk g q qh qq j '/0>
ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ <c ch dz ç çh dzh>
s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h <s ss z zz sh zh x gh xh h>
m n l r j w <m n l r y v>

æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui
<ä ää a aa e ee o oo ie iee ö öö uo uoo i ii ü üü u uu ai eu uoi ou ui>

juxxieħ ʡardaːxar nisdella ɣaraɣulin a, tsħoːgalan a. dika lulaxuoi a xilla ʡaʃ xilla yʃ. ɣaraɣuli, ʃiena bien a bina, hoʔaʃ tʼe xiʔna. xaːnzaːma jæltʃa, kʼornieʃ dæxna tsuo. tsħoːgaluo a kʼeziː dina. hoːra ʡyːranna ɣaraɣuli satosːuʃ iʒuː laxa jyødura, tqʼa tsħoːgal tsʼaħ dysura, tsynan a, ʃien a beːraʃka a ħoʒuʃ, dan diezarg a dieʃ.

Yuxxiexh jardaaxar nisdella gharaghulin a, cxhoogalan a. Dila lulaxuoi a xilla jash xilla üsh. Gharaghuli, shiena bien a bina, hoash the xi'na. Xaanzaama yälça, khorniesh däxna cuo. Cxhoogaluo a khezii dina. Hoora jüüranna gharaghuli satossush izhuu laxa yödura, tqha cxhoogal chaxh düsura, cünan a, shien a beerashka a xhozhush, dan diezarg a diesh.
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I think the IPA is the best transcription for that language. Coz the only people that learn it are linguists (that know the IPA) and people marrying into the community (who'll pick it up by speech anyway). Everyone in Chechnya speaks Russian already and I don't accept the argument of Selivanov et al., viz. that Russian is harder to learn than Chechene.
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R.Rusanov wrote:I think the IPA is the best transcription for that language. Coz the only people that learn it are linguists (that know the IPA) and people marrying into the community (who'll pick it up by speech anyway). Everyone in Chechnya speaks Russian already and I don't accept the argument of Selivanov et al., viz. that Russian is harder to learn than Chechene.
Well, what we are doing here is just that we pose challenges to each other for fun. Of course, Chechen has an established orthography, based on the Cyrillic alphabet, and the Chechen romanizations posted here are without practical value.
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R.Rusanov wrote:a language with over a million speakers is never written. rossia ochen stronk s great power of dugin adn fuc bad rebel have absolutley zero potato
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Chechen

/p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ/ p p' pp b t t' tt d k k' kk g q q' qq ŕ '
/ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ/ c c' dz č č' dž
/s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h/ s ss z zz š ž x ğ ħ h
/m n l r j w/ m n l r j w

/æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui/
ë ëë a aa e ee o oo é éé ő őő ó óó i ii ü üü u uu eü ói ou ui

/juxxieħ ʡardaːxar nisdella ɣaraɣulin a, tsħoːgalan a. dika lulaxuoi a xilla ʡaʃ xilla yʃ. ɣaraɣuli, ʃiena bien a bina, hoʔaʃ tʼe xiʔna. xaːnzaːma jæltʃa, kʼornieʃ dæxna tsuo. tsħoːgaluo a kʼeziː dina. hoːra ʡyːranna ɣaraɣuli satosːuʃ iʒuː laxa jyødura, tqʼa tsħoːgal tsʼaħ dysura, tsynan a, ʃien a beːraʃka a ħoʒuʃ, dan diezarg a dieʃ./
Juxxéħ ŕardaaxar nisdella ğarağulin a, cħoogalan a. Dika lulaxói a xilla ŕaš xilla üš. Ğarağuli, šéna bén a bina, ho'aš t'e xi'na. Xaanzaama jälča, k'ornéš däxna có. Cħoogaló a k'ezii dina. Hoora ŕüüranna ğarağuli satossuš ižuu laxa jődura, tq'a cħoogal c'aħ düsura, cünan a, šén a beeraška a ħožuš, dan dézarg a déš.

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Chechen

p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ <p p' ph b t t' th d k k' kh g q q' qh ɠ ɂ>
ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ <c c' x ç ç' j>
s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h <s sh z zh ś ź ƈ ğ ħ h>
m n l r j w <m n l r ÿ w>

æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui <æ ǣ a ā e ē o ō ie iē yø yø̄ i ī y ȳ u ū ai ey uoi ou ui>

juxxieħ ʡardaːxar nisdella ɣaraɣulin a, tsħoːgalan a. dika lulaxuoi a xilla ʡaʃ xilla yʃ. ɣaraɣuli, ʃiena bien a bina, hoʔaʃ tʼe xiʔna. xaːnzaːma jæltʃa, kʼornieʃ dæxna tsuo. tsħoːgaluo a kʼeziː dina. hoːra ʡyːranna ɣaraɣuli satosːuʃ iʒuː laxa jyødura, tqʼa tsħoːgal tsʼaħ dysura, tsynan a, ʃien a beːraʃka a ħoʒuʃ, dan diezarg a dieʃ.

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Chechen:

/p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ/ <p pʾ pp b t tʾ tt d k kʾ kk g q qʾ qq x ʾ>
/ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ/ <c cʾ ʒ č čʾ ǯ>
/s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h/ <s ss z zz š ž ǩ ǧ ħ h>
/m n l r j w/ <m n l r j>

/æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui/
<ä ää a aa e ee o oo ỉ ỉỉ ỷ ỷỷ ủ ủủ ı ıı y yy u uu aı ey ủi ou uı>

Juǩǩỉħ xardaaǩar nısdella ǧaraǧulın a, cħoogalan a. Dıka lulaǩủı a ǩılla xaš ǩılla yš. Ǧaraǧulı, šỉna bỉn a bına, hoʾaš tʾe ǩıʾna. Ǩaanzaama jälča, kʾornỉš däǩna củ. Cħoogalủ a kʾezıı dına. Hoora xyyranna ǧaraǧulı satossuš ıžuu laǩa jỷdura, tqʾa cħoogal cʾaħ dysura, cynan a, šỉn a beeraška a ħožuš, dan dỉzarg a dỉš.
/juxxieħ ʡardaːxar nisdella ɣaraɣulin a, tsħoːgalan a. dika lulaxuoi a xilla ʡaʃ xilla yʃ. ɣaraɣuli, ʃiena bien a bina, hoʔaʃ tʼe xiʔna. xaːnzaːma jæltʃa, kʼornieʃ dæxna tsuo. tsħoːgaluo a kʼeziː dina. hoːra ʡyːranna ɣaraɣuli satosːuʃ iʒuː laxa jyødura, tqʼa tsħoːgal tsʼaħ dysura, tsynan a, ʃien a beːraʃka a ħoʒuʃ, dan diezarg a dieʃ./
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Sorry for the delay as I have plenty stuff to do.
Chengjiang wrote:
mezziah wrote:Nisha historically had many consonant clusters just as Latin had, since it is basically a rip-off. Since the beginning of development many consonant clusters disappeared by inserting vowels and in the latest and current stage palatalization set in in order to get the typical CVCVC behaviour. Palatalization is fairly common when /n/ appears before another consonant, i.e. /mundus/ > /mʲud/
So...wait, I'm not sure I understand. /nC/ clusters become /C/ with palatalization of the onset of the preceding syllable? I must admit I don't entirely get how that works. There doesn't seem to be any articulatory or acoustic motivation for the change.
Yes, that's exactly how it works. As said, I had to get rid of those /nC/ clusters and couldn't find any other way. The remaining Latin consonant clusters still puzzle me and I find a way out by simply removing them or introducing the glottal stop. They seem to be quite weird sound changes but there were many other before in natural languages which seemed quite unexplainable...
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I never had the need to palatalize voiced consonants
What does that mean? Why wouldn't, say, /dens/ generate [dʲæs]?
Voiced consonants will mostly delete the preceding /n/ without any effect on the next one. Occasionally, /n/ is used as the final consonant, especially when it's the last one before the noun ending. And then only internal vowel changes will happen. So /dens/ will result in /din/.

As promised before, I present you my writing system. It's based on the Semitic alphabet and inspired by Japenese by some kind.

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However, I still thank you for your ideas and I already implemented them in my Romanization.

Chechen:

/p pʼ p: b t tʼ t: d k kʼ k:~xk g q qʼ q: ʡ ʔ/ <p p' pp b t t' tt d k k' kk g q q' qq rh '>
/ts tsʼ dz tʃ tʃʼ dʒ/ <c c' đ č č' dž>
/s s: z z: ʃ ʒ x ɣ ħ h/ <s ss z zz š ž x gh ħ h>
/m n l r j w/ <m n l r j w>

/æ æː a aː e eː o oː ie ieː yø yøː uo uoː i iː y yː u uː ai ey uoi ou ui/ <à àà a aa e ee o oo iy iyy yó yóó wo woo i ii uy uyy u uu wooi wooii wouu ui>
<ä ää a aa e ee o oo ỉ ỉỉ ỷ ỷỷ ủ ủủ ı ıı y yy u uu aı ey ủi ou uı <á áá a aa e ee o oo i ii uy uyy uu ì ìì u uu ay ey uy ou uy>

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Stuffs:

/m n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/
/p b t d c ɟ k g kʷ gʷ/
/v s ç x xʷ/
/r l ʎ j w h/

/iː uː aː/
/ɪ ʊ a/
/e o ɨ ə/
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