Romanization challenge thread

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/p t ts tʂ tɕ k q/ <p t ts ch chy k q>
/pʰ tʰ tsʰ tʂʰ tɕʰ kʰ qʰ/ <ph th tsh chh chhy kh qh>
/b d dz dʐ dʑ g/ <b d dz j jy g>
/ɸ s ʂ ɕ x χ h/ <f s sh shy gh hr h>
/v z ʐ ʁ ɦ/ <v z zh rh h>
/ɬ l/ <hl l>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/a aː ɑ ɑː e eː ə o oː i iː y yː u uː/ <a aa o aw e ai u o oa i ee ü üü ou oo>
/ə/ in diphthongs = <a>
u# ə# a# = <u a ah>

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Maquiritari (/sotːo/)

/m n~ŋ ɲ/
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/
/ɾ̠ j w/
±gemination

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]

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/m n~ŋ ɲ/ <m n ñ>
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ <t ch c/qu qu/cu h>
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ <s j ju>
/ɾ̠ j w/ <r y w>
±gemination

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]

Chonünhe na yawö juünmökö requanacómoje matorü erö meneatörü sekasakö ekanmase wa yawö karanawarunñano juatawö natamöa yawö ahnna öhttö tüwü yawö yö mörö chütarü yawö oneharü chöjöcö weinño acoycharü honá türüüene yawö ñörö inchomo renna yawasejö umü weraqui najöntörü juata rewö yaranawi juañuru wanári kahunña oroh.
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Maquiritari (/sotːo/) Sotto

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ <m n ñ>
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ <t ch k q>
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ <s h>
/ɾ̠ j w/ <r j w>

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ <i í e é a á o ó u ú ì î y ý>

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]

Chonìnhe na jawy hìnmyky rekanakómohe matorì ery meneatyrì sekasaky ekanmase wa jawy karanawarunñano hatawy natamya jawy aqnna yqtty tìwì jawy jy myry chìtarì jawy oneharì chyhyky wejnño akojcharì honá tìrîene jawy ñyry inchomo renna jawasehy umì weraki nahyntyrì hata rewy jaranawi hañuru wanári kahunña oroqsa

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Sotto

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ <m n ny>
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ <t c k~kw '>
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ <s h~hw>
/ɾ̠ j w/ <r y w>
±gemination

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ <i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ʉ ʉʉ ʌ ʌʌ>

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]
Conʉnhe na yawʌ hwʉnmʌkʌ rekwanakoomohe matorʉ erʌ meneatʌrʉ sekasakʌ ekanmase wa yawʌ karanawarunnyano hwatawʌ natamʌa yawʌ a'nna ʌ'ttʌ tʉwʉ yawʌ yʌ mʌrʌ cʉtarʉ yawʌ oneharʉ cʌhʌkʌ weynnyo akoycarʉ honaa tʉrʉʉene yawʌ nyʌrʌ incomo renna yawasehʌ umʉ weraki nahʌntʌrʉ hwata rewʌ jaranawi hwanyuru wanaari kahunnya oro'sa.
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Soto (/sotːo/)

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ <m n ñ>
/mː nː~ŋː ɲː/ <mm nn ññ>
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/< t c k ''>
/tː tʃː kː~kːʷ ʔ/ <d j g '>
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ <s h>
/sː~ʃː çː~hː~hːʷ/ <ss hh>
/ɾ j w/ <r y w>
/ɾ̠ː jː wː/ <rr yy ww>

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ <i í e é a á o ó u ú ui uí ue ué>

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa][/quote]

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Sotto (/sotːo/)

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ <m n ng ny>
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ <t ty c cu q>
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ <s sy hy h hw>
/ɾ̠ j w/ <r j w>
±gemination <CC CCy CCw>

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ <i í e é a á o ó u ú y ý ə ə́>

Tyonynghye na jawə hwynməcə recuanocómohe matory erə meneatəry syecasacə ecanmase wa jawə caranawarunnyano hwatawə nataməa jawə aqnna əqttə tywy jawə jə mərə tyytary jawə onehary tyəhəcə wejnnyo acojtyary honá tyrýene jawə nyərə intyomo renna jawasehə umy weraci nahəntəry hwata rewə jaranawi hwanyuru wanári cahunnya oroqsya.

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]
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Maquiritari (/sotːo/ ‹Sotto›)

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ ‹m n~g ñ›
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ ‹t c k~q p›
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ ‹s~x j~h~f›
/ɾ̠ j w/ ‹d y w›
±gemination ‹CC›

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ ‹i ii e ee a aa o oo u uu ü üü ë ëë›

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]

‹Conügje na yawë fünmëkë deqanakoomohe matodü edë meneatëdü xekasakë ekanmase wa yawë kadanawadunñano fatawë natamëa yawë apnna ëpttë tüwü yawë yë mëdë cütadü yawë onehadü cëhëkë weynño akoycadü honaa tüdüüene yawë ñëdë incomo denna yawasehë umü wedaki nahëntëdü fata dewë Yadanawi Fañudu Wanaadi kahunña Odopxa›

Maquiritari (/sotːo/ ‹Сотто›)

/m n~ŋ ɲ/ ‹м н њ›
/t tʃ k~kʷ ʔ/ ‹т ч к ӏ›
/s~ʃ ç~h~hʷ/ ‹с~ш х›
/ɾ̠ j w/ ‹р і в›
±gemination ‹CC›

/i iː e eː a aː o oː u uː ɨ ɨː ə əː/ ‹и ии е ее а аа о ѡ у уу ы ыі ъ ъъ›

[tʃonɨŋçe na jawə hʷɨnməkə ɾ̠ekʷanakoːmohe matoɾ̠ɨ eɾ̠ə meneatəɾ̠ɨ ʃekasakə ekanmase wa jawə kaɾ̠anawaɾ̠unɲano hʷatawə nataməa jawə aʔnːa əʔtːə tɨwɨ jawə jə məɾ̠ə tʃɨtaɾ̠ɨ jawə onehaɾ̠ɨ tʃəhəkə wejnɲo akojtʃaɾ̠ɨ honaː tɨɾ̠ɨːene jawə ɲəɾ̠ə intʃomo ɾ̠enːa jawasehə umɨ weɾ̠aki nahəntəɾ̠ɨ hʷata ɾ̠ewə jaɾ̠anawi hʷaɲuɾ̠u wanaːɾ̠i kahunɲa oɾ̠oʔʃa]

‹Чонынхе на явъ хынмъкъ реканакѡмохе маторы еръ менеатъры шекасакъ еканмасе ва явъ каранаварунњано хатавъ натамъа явъ аӏнна ъӏттъ тывы явъ іъ мъръ чытары явъ онехары...›

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How about a little fun with alternations and dialects?

/gaʃino/

Imperial Pronunciation
/m n ŋ/
/p t k b d g/
/f θ s ʃ2 h3 v ð z ʒ2/
/l j r/
/i u e o ʌ a/
/iː uː ɛː ɔː aː/
/ei oi ʌu ʌe ai au/

(C₁)(l, r)V(C₂)

C₁ cannot be a voiced fricative, liquid, or /j/ if followed by /l/ or /r/.

1. Historically, intervocalic fricatives were voiced; velar fricatives then fronted, lenited, or hardened. Because of this and other sound changes, there are many alternations involving velars and post-alveolars.
2. The post-alveolar fricatives come from deaffrication of post-alveolar affricates, earlier /sj/ and /zj/, and velar fricatives before /i e/. This means that /ʃ/ and /ʒ/ sometimes alternate with /k/ and /g/.
3. /h/ is the reflex of word-initial /x/; it can alternate with /k/ and /g/, and appears in the clusters /hl/ and /hr/.

Imperial Pronunciation is the most conservative of all the spoken varieties of the language, maintaining distinctions lost in the others. It occupies a position similar to Received Pronunciation: nobody speaks it natively, but it's extremely prestigious (at least, if you're upper class).

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Gaksino /gaʃino/

Imperial Pronunciation
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p t k b d g/ <p t k b d g>
/f θ s ʃ2 h3 v ð z ʒ2/ <f th s ks h v dh z gz>
/l j r/ <l y r>
/i u e o ʌ a/ <i u e o ë a>
/iː uː ɛː ɔː aː/ <í ú é ó á>
/ei oi ʌu ʌe ai au/ <ei oi ëu ëe ai au>

(C₁)(l, r)V(C₂)

C₁ cannot be a voiced fricative, liquid, or /j/ if followed by /l/ or /r/.

1. Historically, intervocalic fricatives were voiced; velar fricatives then fronted, lenited, or hardened. Because of this and other sound changes, there are many alternations involving velars and post-alveolars.
2. The post-alveolar fricatives come from deaffrication of post-alveolar affricates, earlier /sj/ and /zj/, and velar fricatives before /i e/. This means that /ʃ/ and /ʒ/ sometimes alternate with /k/ and /g/.
3. /h/ is the reflex of word-initial /x/; it can alternate with /k/ and /g/, and appears in the clusters /hl/ and /hr/.

Can't really give you a better romanization if there's no sample, Buran.
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Abaza (NWC language similar to Abkhaz)
/ p t k kʲ kʷ q qʲ qʷ ʔ/
/ b d ɡ ɡʲ ɡʷ /
/pʼ tʼ kʼ kʲʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʲʼ qʷʼ/
/ t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ t͡ʃʷ/
/d͡z d͡ʒ d͡ʑ d͡ʒʷ/
/t͡sʼ t͡ʃʼ t͡ɕʼ t͡ʃʷʼ/
/f s ɬ ʃ ɕ ʃʷ χ χʲ χʷ ħ ħʷ/
/ v z ɮ ʒ ʑ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʲ ʁʷ ʕ ʕʷ/
/fʼ ɬʼ/
/ m n/
/ l j /
/r/
/i u/
/e ə o/
/a/
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Abaza (Abaza Bëzshwa)
/p t k kʲ kʷ q qʲ qʷ ʔ/ <p t k ky kw q qy qw ʔ>
/b d ɡ ɡʲ ɡʷ/ <b d g gy gw>
/pʼ tʼ kʼ kʲʼ kʷʼ qʼ qʲʼ qʷʼ/ <pp tt kk kky kkw qq qqy qqw>
/t͡s t͡ʃ t͡ɕ t͡ʃʷ/ <c ch cy cw>
/d͡z d͡ʒ d͡ʑ d͡ʒʷ/ <dz dzh dzy dzwh>
/t͡sʼ t͡ʃʼ t͡ɕʼ t͡ʃʷʼ/ <cc cch ccy ccw>
/f s ɬ ʃ ɕ ʃʷ χ χʲ χʷ ħ ħʷ/ <f s lh sh sy sw x xy xw h hw>
/v z ɮ ʒ ʑ ʒʷ ʁ ʁʲ ʁʷ ʕ ʕʷ/ <v z lzh zh zy zw rx rxy rxw à àw>
/fʼ ɬʼ/ <ff llh>
/m n/ <m n>
/l j/ <l y>
/r/ <r>

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e ë o>
/a/ <a>

Next time, Birdlang, please don't space out all the characters, or don't copy-paste it with all the spaces left intact.
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See if you can figure out a romanizacia for this:

/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ /
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ᵑǁ /
/i u a/

Sample roots:

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
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I like digraphs and I like to make the romanization to some extent systematic, so this is my first try:
/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ /
<nb nd nq nc ng b d q c g r z y w l j>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ᵑǁ /
<np nt nh nx nk p t h x k>
/i u a/
<i u a>

This makes:

b d q c g
p t h x k
nb nd nq nc ng
np nt nh nx nk
r z
l j
y w
i u a

Now, the samples:
/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
Pinda npalaa ahkaa illi ali ianxa cingnga inqi ayi ajja hatua iraa tajja ungaa wanpi.
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
Unha ugia paaggi xaapa japi andia npidda nqaazzu raigu apa ubbi puunga anbnbau xiqqu uata.

Double writings like "anbnbau" could possibly be simplified to "anbbau", but this is of course only possible if there are no clusters like /n̪p/ (which would make <nbb> as well).

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/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠/ <m n nh ny ng p t th ty k r rh y w l lh>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ/ <ngb ngc ngq ngv ngx b c q v x>
/i u a/ <i u a>

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
Bina ngbalaa angxaa illi ali iangva tyinnyia ingi ayi allha qalua iraa qallha unyaa wangbi.
Ungqa ukia baakki vaaba yabi ania ngbitta ngaarrhu raiku aba uppi buunya annau vitthu uala.
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See if you can figure out a romanizacia for this:
/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / m n n̈ ņ n̆ n̊ p t ẗ c k r r̈ y w l l̈
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ᵑǁ / mb nd nd̈ nļ njl b d d̈ ļ jl
/i u a/ i u a
Sample roots:
/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/ Bina mbalaa Anjlaa illi Ali ianļa cin̆n̆ia in̊i ayi D̈allua iraa d̈alla un̆aa wambi.
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/ Und̈a ukia baakki Ļaaba yabi ania mbitta N̊aar̈r̈u Raiku Aba Uppi Buun̆a Annau ĻIT̈T̈U uala.
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/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / <m nd n ñ g p td t j k rd r y w ld l>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ᵑǁ / <mb nc nq nz nx b c q z x>

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/

Binda mbaldaa anxaa illdi aldi ianxa ciññia igi ayi alla qalua irdaa qalla uñaa wambi.
Unqa ukia baakki zaaba yabi andia mbittda gaarru rdaiku aba uppi buuña anndau zittu uaca.


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Binha mbalhaa anxaa illhi alhi ianxa ciññia igi ayi alla qalua irhaa qalla uñaa wambi.
Unqa ukia baakki zaaba yabi anhia mbittha gaarru rhaiku aba uppi buuña annhau zittu uaca.
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The last word, /uaǀa/, does have a click /ǀ/, right? Easily confused with /l/, but apparently this language does not have /l/, only /l̪/ and /l̠/.

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/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / <m n nh ny ng p t th d c r rh y v l lh>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ / <(e)mb (e)nk (e)nqu (e)ns nz b k qu(e) s z>
initial /i/ diphthong = <y_>

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
Bina embalá anzá illi ali yansa dinnhia ingi ayi allha qualua irá quallha ungá vambi.
Unqua ucia bácci sába yabi ania embitta ngárrhu raicu aba uppi búnha annau sitthu uaka.
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/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / m n ń ñ g p t d ć k r z y w l ł
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ / nb nc nq nx nj b c q x j
/i u a/ i u a

Sample roots:

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
bina nbalaa anjaa illi ali ianxa ćiññia igi ayi alla qacua iraa qalla uñaa wanbi
unqa ukia baakki xaaba yabi ania nbitta gaazzu raiku aba uppi buuña annau xiddu uaca

edit: | is the worst ipa character...literally no-one thought this through.

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motion to make zbb style use literally any other click letters than the ipa ones. if we use the beach letters we can follow doke and use psi for the retroflex click, which ipa doesn't have a character for

are the scheuder click sig runes in unicode yet? those are the coolest click letters
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/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / <m n nh ny ŋ p t th ty k r rh y w l lh>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ / <ʘ̃ ʇ̃ ʗ̃ ǂ̃ ʖ̃ ʘ ʇ ʗ ǂ ʖ>
/i u a/ i u a

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/
ʘina ʘ̃alaa aʖ̃aa illi ali iaǂ̃a tyinnyia iŋi ayi allha ʗalua iraa ʗallha unyaa waʘ̃i.
Uʗ̃a ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa yaʘi ania ʘ̃itta ŋaarrhu raiku aʘa uppi ʘuunya annau ǂitthu uaʇa.
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A systematic orthography:

/m n̪ n̠ ɲ ŋ p t̪ t̠ c k ɹ̪ ɹ̠ j w l̪ l̠ / <m nh n ny g p th t ty k rh r y w lh l>
/ᵑʘ ᵑǀ ᵑǃ ᵑǂ ᵑǁ ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ / <mb nch nc ncy nx b ch c cy x>
/i u a/ i u a

/ʘin̪a ᵑʘal̪aa aᵑǁaa il̪l̪i al̪i iaᵑǂa ciɲɲia iŋi aji al̠l̠a ǃaǀua iɹ̪aa ǃal̠l̠a uɲaa waᵑʘi/
/uᵑǃa ukia ʘaakki ǂaaʘa jaʘi an̪ia ᵑʘit̪t̪a ŋaaɹ̠ɹ̠u ɹ̪aiku aʘa uppi ʘuuɲa an̪n̪au ǂit̠t̠u uaǀa/

Binha mbalhaa anxaa illhi alhi iancya tyinnya igi ayi alla calua irhaa calla unyaa wambi.
Unca ukia baakki cyaaba yabi anhia mbittha gaarru rhaiku aba uppi buunya annhau cyittu uacha.
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ɔtx:

/p pʲ tʰ tʲʰ t tʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k qʰ/
/f fʲ θ θʲ s sʲ h hʲ/
/m mʲ n ɲ r j ɮ ɮʲ/
/ɛ ɔ i ɨ u/ + length
/a e/ + length

/a e/ are less common than the other vowels, and they can only occur in a few environments. Long vowels can only occur in the first syllable. Non-initial vowels are either a copy of the initial vowel or /i/.

/kʰ k qʰ/ are [x ɣ χ] in most non-initial environments, but /qʰ/ can be a glottal stop word-finally. Clusters of fricative + t are reduced to palatalized fricatives. /i/ is a syllabic nasal after /m ɲ/. Palatalization distinctions are neutralized before /i/ and after non-initial /i/.

Nasals are prestopped after vowels.

/mast kʰɔːpɮkʲʰɔk. qʰefkʰn taːsakn. qʰefkʰf kʲɨːk tʰ kaːnkʲiɲf fɔkʰf θʲɔkʰ. qʰefkʰmikʲʰ kʰekʲʰp tʰuːmkʲʰip./
[masʲ kxɔːpɬcʰɔɣ. qχefxn̩ taːsaɣn̩. qχefxf cɨːɣ tʰ kaːɲɟiɲf fɔxf θʲɔx. qχefxmɲ̩cʰ kxecʰp tʰuːbmcʰip]
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/p pʲ tʰ tʲʰ t tʲ kʲʰ kʲ kʰ k qʰ/ <б бь т ть д дь кь гь к~х г ӄ>
/f fʲ θ θʲ s sʲ h hʲ/ <ф фь ҫ ҫь с сь h hь>
/m mʲ n ɲ r j ɮ ɮʲ/ <м мь н нь р й л ль>
/ɛ ɔ i ɨ u/ <э о и ы у>
/a e/ <а е>

/mast kʰɔːpɮkʲʰɔk. qʰefkʰn taːsakn. qʰefkʰf kʲɨːk tʰ kaːnkʲiɲf fɔkʰf θʲɔkʰ. qʰefkʰmikʲʰ kʰekʲʰp tʰuːmkʲʰip./
[masʲ kxɔːpɬcʰɔɣ. qχefxn̩ taːsaɣn̩. qχefxf cɨːɣ tʰ kaːɲɟiɲf fɔxf θʲɔx. qχefxmɲ̩cʰ kxecʰp tʰuːbmcʰip]
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