Romanization challenge thread
Re: Romanization challenge thread
I wrote the post wrong: umlaut + back vowels is how I form front roundeds. (This is now fixed.) <ë ï ö ü> does not seem like a consistent usage of umlauts. Digraphs won't work because I want one Latin letter for each letter of my yet to be made conscript. Breves might work, but the thing is that breves are mainly used to indicate short or reduced vowels and the stroke/bar can be derived from reanalysing ɨ.
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ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Wait, ü is /i/ or /y/?
Re: Romanization challenge thread
I use <y> for /y/ and <i> for /i/. If I used <ü>, it would be for /y/.
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Turkish says hi.mèþru wrote:<ë ï ö ü> does not seem like a consistent usage of umlauts.
Re: Romanization challenge thread
...I thought Turkish only has <ü>? (dotted/dotless I is not an umlaut)
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Nope, it has ö and ü (as do other Turkic languages), and (from the Wikipedia page on Ï) "in scholarly writing on Turkic languages, ⟨ï⟩ is sometimes used to write the close back unrounded vowel /ɯ/, which in standard modern Turkish orthography is written as the dotless i ⟨ı⟩."
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
But we still have to remember about Turkish vowel harmony in backness: ieüö - ıauo and in roundeness: üöuo - ieıa, so it is still sophisticated whether to describe some vowels as umlauts or not. We probably would be right if we used <ï> instead of <ı> and <ë> instead of <a> or <ä> in place of <e>.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Labu
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/
/m n ŋ/
/s h/
/l j w/
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/
/ɑ ɑ̀/
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/
/m n ŋ/
/s h/
/l j w/
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/
/ɑ ɑ̀/
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Labu
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/ <<p b mb t d nd k g ngg>>
/m n ŋ/ <<m n ng>>
/s h/ <<s h>>
/l j w/ <<l y w>>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <<a e i ii o u uu>>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <<a à>>
/ai ngguua ndina mìì ku upa guui sapuu. hita ti mina duusuukuu sita mina mu su sina o suku mina hau a duu aniianii sita mu. sapuu iinii ngame ngandi mina hau su. ngakadii ngaku mina mu ngana mba na mu ki. pihala ànìì iinii nda mina hau su. kadii ku mina mu mba na ki. hita ti iinii la pu na lake sapa na anawi haya. iinii na ya ki pasu mba nakadii lake ti tatawa anamu. tatawa si eme waa kuma si kuma akese. iinii eme uuwii guuà su. guui hii mba nala. la pepe ti saluu di nama kii su, ka hii hii mba nala di nama wahi./
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/ <<p b mb t d nd k g ngg>>
/m n ŋ/ <<m n ng>>
/s h/ <<s h>>
/l j w/ <<l y w>>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <<a e i ii o u uu>>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <<a à>>
/ai ngguua ndina mìì ku upa guui sapuu. hita ti mina duusuukuu sita mina mu su sina o suku mina hau a duu aniianii sita mu. sapuu iinii ngame ngandi mina hau su. ngakadii ngaku mina mu ngana mba na mu ki. pihala ànìì iinii nda mina hau su. kadii ku mina mu mba na ki. hita ti iinii la pu na lake sapa na anawi haya. iinii na ya ki pasu mba nakadii lake ti tatawa anamu. tatawa si eme waa kuma si kuma akese. iinii eme uuwii guuà su. guui hii mba nala. la pepe ti saluu di nama kii su, ka hii hii mba nala di nama wahi./
Re: Romanization challenge thread
I personally am a fan of using back rounded vowels + tilde for back unrounded vowels.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/ <p b mb t d nd k g ngg>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/s h/ <s h>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <a ee e i oo o uu>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <a a'>
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
Ai nggua ndena mi' ko opa gue sapu. Heta te mena dusuku seta mena mo so sena oo soko mena hao a du aniani seta mo. Sapu ini ngamee ngande mena hao so. Ngakadi ngako mena mo ngana mba na mo ke. Pehala a'ni' ini nda mena hao so. Kadi ko mena mo mba na ke. Heta te ini la po na lakee sapa na anawe haja. Ini na ja ke paso mba nakadi lakee te tatawa anamo. Tatawa se eemee waa koma se koma akeesee. Ini eemee uwi gua' so. Gue hi mba nala. La peepee te salu de nama ki so, ka hi hi mba nala de nama wahe.
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/s h/ <s h>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <a ee e i oo o uu>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <a a'>
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
Ai nggua ndena mi' ko opa gue sapu. Heta te mena dusuku seta mena mo so sena oo soko mena hao a du aniani seta mo. Sapu ini ngamee ngande mena hao so. Ngakadi ngako mena mo ngana mba na mo ke. Pehala a'ni' ini nda mena hao so. Kadi ko mena mo mba na ke. Heta te ini la po na lakee sapa na anawe haja. Ini na ja ke paso mba nakadi lakee te tatawa anamo. Tatawa se eemee waa koma se koma akeesee. Ini eemee uwi gua' so. Gue hi mba nala. La peepee te salu de nama ki so, ka hi hi mba nala de nama wahe.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p b ᵐb t d ⁿd k ɡ ᵑɡ/ <p b ḅ t d ḍ k g q>
/m n ŋ/ <m n r>
/s h/ <s h>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <0/' a i e o v u>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <' , /u ù/ <u ụ>
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
'I qu' ḍin mẹ kv vp gui spu. Hit ti min dusuku sit min mv sv sin o svkv min h'v ' du 'ne'ne sit mv. Spu ene rma rḍi min h'v sv. Rkde rkv min mv rn ḅ n mv ki. Pihl :nẹ ene ḍ min h'v sv. Kdi ku min mv ḅ n ki. Hit ti ene l pv n lka sp n 'nwi hy. Ene n y ki psv ḅ nkde lka ti ttw 'nmv. Ttw si ama w' kvm si kvm 'kasa. Ene ama uwe gu: sv. Gui he ḅ nl. L papa ti slu di nm ke sv, k he he ḅ nl di nm whi.
/m n ŋ/ <m n r>
/s h/ <s h>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/ɑ ɛ ɪ i ɔ ʊ u/ <0/' a i e o v u>
/ɑ ɑ̀/ <' , /u ù/ <u ụ>
/ɑi ᵑɡuɑ ⁿdɪnɑ mì kʊ ʊpɑ ɡuɪ sɑpu. hɪtɑ tɪ mɪnɑ dusuku sɪtɑ mɪnɑ mʊ sʊ sɪnɑ ɔ sʊkʊ mɪnɑ hɑʊ ɑ du ɑniɑni sɪtɑ mʊ. sɑpu ini ŋɑmɛ ŋɑⁿdɪ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. ŋɑkɑdi ŋɑkʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ŋɑnɑ ᵐbɑ nɑ mʊ kɪ. pɪhɑlɑ ɑ̀nì ini ⁿdɑ mɪnɑ hɑʊ sʊ. kɑdi kʊ mɪnɑ mʊ ᵐbɑ nɑ kɪ. hɪtɑ tɪ ini lɑ pʊ nɑ lɑkɛ sɑpɑ nɑ ɑnɑwɪ hɑjɑ. ini nɑ jɑ kɪ pɑsʊ ᵐbɑ nɑkɑdi lɑkɛ tɪ tɑtɑwɑ ɑnɑmʊ. tɑtɑwɑ sɪ ɛmɛ wɑɑ kʊmɑ sɪ kʊmɑ ɑkɛsɛ. ini ɛmɛ uwi ɡuɑ̀ sʊ. ɡuɪ hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ. lɑ pɛpɛ tɪ sɑlu dɪ nɑmɑ ki sʊ, kɑ hi hi ᵐbɑ nɑlɑ dɪ nɑmɑ wɑhɪ./
'I qu' ḍin mẹ kv vp gui spu. Hit ti min dusuku sit min mv sv sin o svkv min h'v ' du 'ne'ne sit mv. Spu ene rma rḍi min h'v sv. Rkde rkv min mv rn ḅ n mv ki. Pihl :nẹ ene ḍ min h'v sv. Kdi ku min mv ḅ n ki. Hit ti ene l pv n lka sp n 'nwi hy. Ene n y ki psv ḅ nkde lka ti ttw 'nmv. Ttw si ama w' kvm si kvm 'kasa. Ene ama uwe gu: sv. Gui he ḅ nl. L papa ti slu di nm ke sv, k he he ḅ nl di nm whi.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
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/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/
/i e ə ɑ (u)/
Stress is contrastive.
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/
/i e ə ɑ (u)/
Stress is contrastive.
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Anything's better than that batshit orthography
Saanich
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <<p p' t t' c c' (k) kw kw' q q' qw qw' '>>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <<m m' n n' g g'>>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <<z s ł š xw x̌ x̌w h>>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/ <<tz' ts ts' tł' c c'>>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <<w w' l l' y y'>>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <<i e u a (u)>>
Stress is marked by an acute accent except in monosyllables.
/mukw' kwucíl' 'i uw' kw'uw'úy'kw tsu spaal' || gun' tsu gungúnu's tsuw'níł spaal' || kw'ékw'i' || ˈkw'ékw'i' 'al' 'úwunu' steg s'íłuns || nútz'u' skwécul 'i' 'ux̌wítus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens || 'ux̌wítus tsu snúxwuł tsu mens 'i' kwł zíl'uc 'u tsu sq'áluł || suw' tál'nuxw kwsuw' 'í'łun's tsu mens 'u kwsí'u shéw'u || suw' tál'nuxw kwsuw' 'í'łun's tsu mens 'u kwsí'u skw'uw'úy'kw || 'aał 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens suw' kweyl's 'u tsu kwucíl' || tuwu x̌wun'ég' 'i' kwł tus tsuw'níł tsu swíw'lus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens || suw' ʔaałs || tus tsu spaal' 'u tsu snúxwuł suw' 'aałs || 'úwunu' sx̌cíts kws kwł 'ul''ál'uł tsu swíw'lus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu skwukwéyl' || 'úwunu' sx̌ucígts 'u tł spaal' kw s kwł 'ul'ál''ułs tsu swíw'lus skwékwul' ||/
Next:
/p pʲ pˤ t tʲ tˤ k c q ʔ/
/f fʲ fˤ s ʃ s ɬ ɬʲ ɬˤ x ç χ ħ h/
/m mʲ mˤ n ɲ nˤ l ʎ lˤ w j ʕ/
/ə a/
/ʲə/ [ʲi]
/ʲa/ [ʲɛ]
/ˤə/ [ˤə]
/ˤa/ [ˤɑ]
All vowels round when adjacent to labials, with [a] [ɔ] and [ə]
Saanich
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <<p p' t t' c c' (k) kw kw' q q' qw qw' '>>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <<m m' n n' g g'>>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <<z s ł š xw x̌ x̌w h>>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/ <<tz' ts ts' tł' c c'>>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <<w w' l l' y y'>>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <<i e u a (u)>>
Stress is marked by an acute accent except in monosyllables.
/mukw' kwucíl' 'i uw' kw'uw'úy'kw tsu spaal' || gun' tsu gungúnu's tsuw'níł spaal' || kw'ékw'i' || ˈkw'ékw'i' 'al' 'úwunu' steg s'íłuns || nútz'u' skwécul 'i' 'ux̌wítus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens || 'ux̌wítus tsu snúxwuł tsu mens 'i' kwł zíl'uc 'u tsu sq'áluł || suw' tál'nuxw kwsuw' 'í'łun's tsu mens 'u kwsí'u shéw'u || suw' tál'nuxw kwsuw' 'í'łun's tsu mens 'u kwsí'u skw'uw'úy'kw || 'aał 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens suw' kweyl's 'u tsu kwucíl' || tuwu x̌wun'ég' 'i' kwł tus tsuw'níł tsu swíw'lus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu mens || suw' ʔaałs || tus tsu spaal' 'u tsu snúxwuł suw' 'aałs || 'úwunu' sx̌cíts kws kwł 'ul''ál'uł tsu swíw'lus 'u tsu snúxwuł tsu skwukwéyl' || 'úwunu' sx̌ucígts 'u tł spaal' kw s kwł 'ul'ál''ułs tsu swíw'lus skwékwul' ||/
Next:
/p pʲ pˤ t tʲ tˤ k c q ʔ/
/f fʲ fˤ s ʃ s ɬ ɬʲ ɬˤ x ç χ ħ h/
/m mʲ mˤ n ɲ nˤ l ʎ lˤ w j ʕ/
/ə a/
/ʲə/ [ʲi]
/ʲa/ [ʲɛ]
/ˤə/ [ˤə]
/ˤa/ [ˤɑ]
All vowels round when adjacent to labials, with [a] [ɔ] and [ə]
Re: Romanization challenge thread
There's no "next". Anyone can romanize anything.Next:
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/p pʲ pˤ t tʲ tˤ k c q ʔ/ <p p p t t t k k k 7>
/f fʲ fˤ s ʃ s ɬ ɬʲ ɬˤ x ç χ ħ h/ <f f f s s s l l l x x x h h>
/m mʲ mˤ n ɲ nˤ l ʎ lˤ w j ʕ/ <m m m n n n r r r w ' '>
/ə a/ <e a>
/ʲə/ [ʲi] <i>
/ʲa/ [ʲɛ] <ie>
/ˤə/ [ˤə] <o>
/ˤa/ [ˤɑ] <aa>
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <p b t d ch dj c co go k q ko qo h>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <m mh n nh ñ ñh>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <z s ll x ho j jo ħ>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ/ <dz th ts tl>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <w hu l lh i hi>
In word-final position, non-glottalized nasals and /l/ are followed by -ë and glottalized nasals are written plain.
-i following <a> is written with a diaeresis to distinguish it from <ai> /e/.
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <i ai e a>
Stress is contrastive. <á> Defaults to first syllable.
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
Meog coechíl i euh goehuéihoc the spaal. Ñen the ñenñénehs theunhíll spáal. Coaicoih. Coaicoih al eweneh staiñë shillens. Nedzeh scoechelë ih ejoítes e the snehoell the mayns. Ejoítes the snehoell the mains ih coll zilhech e the sqalell. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe shaihue. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe sgoehuéihoc. Aall e the snehoell the mains seuh coaiilhs e the coechíl. Tewe joenhéñ ih coll tes theuhníll the swiuhles e the snehoell the mains. Seuh aalls. Tes the spaal e the snehoell seuh aals. Eweneh sjchith cos coll elhhálhell the swiuhles e the snehoell the scoecoaiil. Eweneh sjechtíñs e tll spaal co scoll elhalhhells the swiuhles scoaicoel.
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <m mh n nh ñ ñh>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <z s ll x ho j jo ħ>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ/ <dz th ts tl>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <w hu l lh i hi>
In word-final position, non-glottalized nasals and /l/ are followed by -ë and glottalized nasals are written plain.
-i following <a> is written with a diaeresis to distinguish it from <ai> /e/.
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <i ai e a>
Stress is contrastive. <á> Defaults to first syllable.
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
Meog coechíl i euh goehuéihoc the spaal. Ñen the ñenñénehs theunhíll spáal. Coaicoih. Coaicoih al eweneh staiñë shillens. Nedzeh scoechelë ih ejoítes e the snehoell the mayns. Ejoítes the snehoell the mains ih coll zilhech e the sqalell. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe shaihue. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe sgoehuéihoc. Aall e the snehoell the mains seuh coaiilhs e the coechíl. Tewe joenhéñ ih coll tes theuhníll the swiuhles e the snehoell the mains. Seuh aalls. Tes the spaal e the snehoell seuh aals. Eweneh sjchith cos coll elhhálhell the swiuhles e the snehoell the scoecoaiil. Eweneh sjechtíñs e tll spaal co scoll elhalhhells the swiuhles scoaicoel.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p pʼ t tʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <P B T D K Q Gʷ Ḵ G Q̱ '>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <M M̲ N N̲ Ñ Ñ̲>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <Ŧ S Ƚ Š W̄ X Xʷ H>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/ <Z Ȼ Ɉ Ʌ C J>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <W W̲ L L̲ Y Y̲>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <I E O A U>
/ej əj əw/ <Ê Ô Û>
Stress is contrastive. <-A>
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
MOGʷ QO-CIL̲ 'I OW̲ GʷO-W̲OY̲Q ȻO SPAAL̲. ÑON̲ ȻO ÑON-ÑONO'S ȻOW̲-NIȽ SPAAL̲. GʷEGʷI'. GʷEGʷI' 'AL̲ 'ÛONO' STEÑ S'IȽONS. NOZO' SQECOL 'I' 'O-XʷITOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS. 'O-XʷITOS ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS 'I' QȽ ŦIL̲OC 'O ȻO SGALOȽ. SOW̲ TAL̲NOW̄ QSOW̲ 'I'ȽON̲S ȻO MENS 'O QSI'O SHEW̲O. SOW̲ TAL̲NOW̄ QSOW̲ 'I'ȽON̲S ȻO MENS 'O QSI'O SGʷO-W̲OY̲Q. 'AAȽ 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS SOW̲ QÊL̲S 'O ȻO QO-CIL̲. TÛO XʷO-N̲EÑ̲ 'I' QȽ TOS ȻOW̲-NIȽ ȻO SWIW̲LOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS. SOW̲ 'AAȽS. TOS ȻO SPAAL̲ 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ SOW̲ 'AAȽS. 'ÛONO' SXCIȻ QS QȽ 'OL̲-'AL̲OȽ ȻO SWIW̲LOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO SQO-QÊL̲. 'ÛONO' SXOC-TIÑS 'O TȽ SPAAL̲ Q S QȽ 'O-L̲AL̲'OȽS ȻO SWIW̲LOS SQEQOL̲.
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <M M̲ N N̲ Ñ Ñ̲>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <Ŧ S Ƚ Š W̄ X Xʷ H>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ ʧ ʧʼ/ <Z Ȼ Ɉ Ʌ C J>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <W W̲ L L̲ Y Y̲>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <I E O A U>
/ej əj əw/ <Ê Ô Û>
Stress is contrastive. <-A>
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
MOGʷ QO-CIL̲ 'I OW̲ GʷO-W̲OY̲Q ȻO SPAAL̲. ÑON̲ ȻO ÑON-ÑONO'S ȻOW̲-NIȽ SPAAL̲. GʷEGʷI'. GʷEGʷI' 'AL̲ 'ÛONO' STEÑ S'IȽONS. NOZO' SQECOL 'I' 'O-XʷITOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS. 'O-XʷITOS ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS 'I' QȽ ŦIL̲OC 'O ȻO SGALOȽ. SOW̲ TAL̲NOW̄ QSOW̲ 'I'ȽON̲S ȻO MENS 'O QSI'O SHEW̲O. SOW̲ TAL̲NOW̄ QSOW̲ 'I'ȽON̲S ȻO MENS 'O QSI'O SGʷO-W̲OY̲Q. 'AAȽ 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS SOW̲ QÊL̲S 'O ȻO QO-CIL̲. TÛO XʷO-N̲EÑ̲ 'I' QȽ TOS ȻOW̲-NIȽ ȻO SWIW̲LOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO MENS. SOW̲ 'AAȽS. TOS ȻO SPAAL̲ 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ SOW̲ 'AAȽS. 'ÛONO' SXCIȻ QS QȽ 'OL̲-'AL̲OȽ ȻO SWIW̲LOS 'O ȻO SNOW̄OȽ ȻO SQO-QÊL̲. 'ÛONO' SXOC-TIÑS 'O TȽ SPAAL̲ Q S QȽ 'O-L̲AL̲'OȽS ȻO SWIW̲LOS SQEQOL̲.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Are my eyes deceiving me or did you just make Saanich look Celtic?Nortaneous wrote:/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <p b t d ch dj c co go k q ko qo h>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <m mh n nh ñ ñh>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <z s ll x ho j jo ħ>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ/ <dz th ts tl>
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <w hu l lh i hi>
In word-final position, non-glottalized nasals and /l/ are followed by -ë and glottalized nasals are written plain.
-i following <a> is written with a diaeresis to distinguish it from <ai> /e/.
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <i ai e a>
Stress is contrastive. <á> Defaults to first syllable.
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
Meog coechíl i euh goehuéihoc the spaal. Ñen the ñenñénehs theunhíll spáal. Coaicoih. Coaicoih al eweneh staiñë shillens. Nedzeh scoechelë ih ejoítes e the snehoell the mayns. Ejoítes the snehoell the mains ih coll zilhech e the sqalell. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe shaihue. Seuh talhneoh coseuh ihllenhs the mains e cosihe sgoehuéihoc. Aall e the snehoell the mains seuh coaiilhs e the coechíl. Tewe joenhéñ ih coll tes theuhníll the swiuhles e the snehoell the mains. Seuh aalls. Tes the spaal e the snehoell seuh aals. Eweneh sjchith cos coll elhhálhell the swiuhles e the snehoell the scoecoaiil. Eweneh sjechtíñs e tll spaal co scoll elhalhhells the swiuhles scoaicoel.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
Bzəčqi:
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/
/v s z x ɣ h/
/r l/
/m n ŋ/
/i y ɨ/
/ə oː/
/æ͏ː ɑ/
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/
/v s z x ɣ h/
/r l/
/m n ŋ/
/i y ɨ/
/ə oː/
/æ͏ː ɑ/
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
Re: Romanization challenge thread
Bzeťqi
<p b t d ť ď k g q>
<v s z x ŕ h>
<r l>
<m n ŋ>
<i y ɨ>
<e u>
<a o>
Ektamol ŕezŋeťerde ŋzetardverekɨm. Kivetleŋťi. Ŋzetarde tetexťi ťezheŋge. Tetexťi etve bzeťatade
agefaqeg-style:
bzeťqi
<p b t d ť ď k g q>
<v s z kh gh h>
<r l>
<m n ŋ>
<i y ɨ>
<ê o>
<a ao>
êktamaol ghêzŋêťêrdê ŋzêtardvêrêkɨm, kivêtleŋťi, ŋzêtardê têtêxťi ťêzhêŋge, têtêxťi êtvê bzêťatadê
<p b t d ť ď k g q>
<v s z x ŕ h>
<r l>
<m n ŋ>
<i y ɨ>
<e u>
<a o>
Ektamol ŕezŋeťerde ŋzetardverekɨm. Kivetleŋťi. Ŋzetarde tetexťi ťezheŋge. Tetexťi etve bzeťatade
agefaqeg-style:
bzeťqi
<p b t d ť ď k g q>
<v s z kh gh h>
<r l>
<m n ŋ>
<i y ɨ>
<ê o>
<a ao>
êktamaol ghêzŋêťêrdê ŋzêtardvêrêkɨm, kivêtleŋťi, ŋzêtardê têtêxťi ťêzhêŋge, têtêxťi êtvê bzêťatadê
ìtsanso, God In The Mountain, may our names inspire the deepest feelings of fear in urkos and all his ilk, for we have saved another man from his lies! I welcome back to the feast hall kal, who will never gamble again! May the eleven gods bless him!
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <p b t d c j k g q>
/v s z x ɣ h/ <v s z x gh h>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ṅ>
/i y ɨ/ <i ü ä>
/ə oː/ <a o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <e ā>
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
Aktemāl ghazṅacarda ṅzaterdvarakäm. Kivatlaṅci. Ṅzaterda tataxci cazhaṅga. Tataxci atva bzacqeterda.
/v s z x ɣ h/ <v s z x gh h>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ṅ>
/i y ɨ/ <i ü ä>
/ə oː/ <a o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <e ā>
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
Aktemāl ghazṅacarda ṅzaterdvarakäm. Kivatlaṅci. Ṅzaterda tataxci cazhaṅga. Tataxci atva bzacqeterda.
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Re: Romanization challenge thread
I dunno.
Saanich
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <p p' t t' č č' (k) ku k'u g g' gu g'u c>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <m mm n nn ŋ ŋŋ>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <z s r š xu q qu h>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ/ <tz' ts ts' tr'
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <w ww l ll y yy>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <i e a o (u)>
Stress is contrastive. <-- marked with the acute accent
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
Mák’u kuačíll ci aww k’uawwáyyku tsa spóoll. Ŋánn tsa ŋanŋánacs tsawwnír spóoll. K’uék’uic. K’uék’uic coll cáwanac stéŋ scírans. Nátz’ac skuéčal cic caquítas ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns. Caquítas tsa snáxuar tsa méns cic kur zíllač ca tsa sg’ólar. Saww tóllnaxu kusaww cícranns tsa méns ca kusíca shéwwa. Saww tóllnaxu kusaww cícranns tsa méns ca kusíca sk’uawwáyyku. Cóor ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns saww kuéylls ca tsa kuačíll. Tawa quannéŋŋ cic kur tás tsawwnír tsa swíwwlas ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns. Saww cóors. Tás tsa spóoll ca tsa snáxuar saww cóors. Cáwanac sqčíts kus kur callcóllar tsa swíwwlas ca tsa snáxuar tsa skuakuéyll. Cáwanac sqačtíŋs ca tr spóoll ku s kur callóllcars tsa swíwwlas skuékuall.
Saanich
/p pʼ t tʼ ʧ ʧʼ (k̟) k̟ʷ k̟ʼʷ k̠ k̠ʼ k̠ʷ k̠ʼʷ ʔ/ <p p' t t' č č' (k) ku k'u g g' gu g'u c>
/m mˀ n nˀ ŋ̠ ŋ̠ˀ/ <m mm n nn ŋ ŋŋ>
/s̪ s ɬ ʃ x̟ʷ x̠ x̠ʷ h/ <z s r š xu q qu h>
/ʦ̪ʼ ʦ ʦʼ t͡ɬʼ/ <tz' ts ts' tr'
/w wˀ l lˀ j jˀ/ <w ww l ll y yy>
/i e ə ɑ (u)/ <i e a o (u)>
Stress is contrastive. <-- marked with the acute accent
/ˈmək̟ʼʷ k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ ʔi əwˀ k̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈŋ̠ənˀ ʦə ŋ̠ənˈŋ̠ənəʔs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ || ˈk̟ʼʷek̟ʼʷiʔ ʔɑlˀ ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsteŋ̠ ˈsʔiɬəns || ˈnəʦ̪ʼəʔ ˈsk̟ʷeʧəl ʔiʔ ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || ʔəˈx̠ʷitəs ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈs̪ilˀəʧ ʔə ʦə ˈsk̠ʼɑləɬ || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə ˈshewˀə || səwˀ ˈtɑlˀnəx̟ʷ k̟ʷsəwˀ ˈʔiʔɬənˀs ʦə ˈmens ʔə ˈk̟ʷsiʔə sk̟ʼʷəˈwˀəjˀk̟ʷ || ˈʔɑɑɬ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens səwˀ ˈk̟ʷejlˀs ʔə ʦə k̟ʷəˈʧilˀ || təwə x̠ʷəˈnˀeŋ̠ˀ ʔiʔ k̟ʷɬ ˈtəs ʦəwˀˈniɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə ˈmens || səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈtəs ʦə ˈspɑɑlˀ ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ səwˀ ˈʔɑɑɬs || ˈʔəwənəʔ ˈsx̠ʧiʦ k̟ʷs k̟ʷɬ ʔəlˀˈʔɑlˀəɬ ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ʔə ʦə ˈsnəx̟ʷəɬ ʦə sk̟ʷəˈk̟ʷejlˀ || ˈʔəwənəʔ sx̠əʧˈtiŋ̠s ʔə tɬ ˈspɑɑlˀ k̟ʷ s k̟ʷɬ ʔəˈlˀɑlˀʔəɬs ʦə ˈswiwˀləs ˈsk̟ʷek̟ʷəlˀ ||/
Mák’u kuačíll ci aww k’uawwáyyku tsa spóoll. Ŋánn tsa ŋanŋánacs tsawwnír spóoll. K’uék’uic. K’uék’uic coll cáwanac stéŋ scírans. Nátz’ac skuéčal cic caquítas ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns. Caquítas tsa snáxuar tsa méns cic kur zíllač ca tsa sg’ólar. Saww tóllnaxu kusaww cícranns tsa méns ca kusíca shéwwa. Saww tóllnaxu kusaww cícranns tsa méns ca kusíca sk’uawwáyyku. Cóor ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns saww kuéylls ca tsa kuačíll. Tawa quannéŋŋ cic kur tás tsawwnír tsa swíwwlas ca tsa snáxuar tsa méns. Saww cóors. Tás tsa spóoll ca tsa snáxuar saww cóors. Cáwanac sqčíts kus kur callcóllar tsa swíwwlas ca tsa snáxuar tsa skuakuéyll. Cáwanac sqačtíŋs ca tr spóoll ku s kur callóllcars tsa swíwwlas skuékuall.
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.
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/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <p b t d c j k g q>
/v s z x ɣ h/ <v s z x w h>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/i y ɨ/ <i ü u>
/ə oː/ <e o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <ä a>
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
Ektämal wezŋecerde ŋzetärdverekum. Kivetleŋci. Ŋzetärde tetexci cezheŋge. Tetexci etve bzecqätärde.
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <p b t d q j k g kv>
/v s z x ɣ h/ <w s ss h v hv>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/i y ɨ/ <i iu u>
/ə oː/ <e o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <ae a>
Ektaemal vezngeqerde ngssetaerdwerekum. Kiwetlengqi. Ngssetaerde tetehqi qesshengge. Tetehqi etwe bsseqkvaetaerde.
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <pp p tt t cc c kk k q> (but Ph- initially)
/v s z x ɣ h/ <w ss s ṣ l h>
/r l/ <r ly>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ṅ>
/i y ɨ/ <i u ä>
/ə oː/ <a o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <e ā>
Akttemāly lasṅaccarta ṅsattertwarakäm. Khiwattlaṅcci. Ṅsatterta thattaṣcci chashaṅka. Thattaṣcci attwa psacqqetterta.
/v s z x ɣ h/ <v s z x w h>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/i y ɨ/ <i ü u>
/ə oː/ <e o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <ä a>
/əktæːmɑl ɣəzŋətʃərdə ŋzətæːrdvərəkɨm || kivətləŋtʃi || ŋzətæːrdə tətəxtʃi tʃəzhəŋgə || tətəxtʃi ətvə bzətʃqæːtæːrdə/
Ektämal wezŋecerde ŋzetärdverekum. Kivetleŋci. Ŋzetärde tetexci cezheŋge. Tetexci etve bzecqätärde.
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <p b t d q j k g kv>
/v s z x ɣ h/ <w s ss h v hv>
/r l/ <r l>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/i y ɨ/ <i iu u>
/ə oː/ <e o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <ae a>
Ektaemal vezngeqerde ngssetaerdwerekum. Kiwetlengqi. Ngssetaerde tetehqi qesshengge. Tetehqi etwe bsseqkvaetaerde.
/p b t d tʃ dʒ k g q/ <pp p tt t cc c kk k q> (but Ph- initially)
/v s z x ɣ h/ <w ss s ṣ l h>
/r l/ <r ly>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ṅ>
/i y ɨ/ <i u ä>
/ə oː/ <a o>
/æ͏ː ɑ/ <e ā>
Akttemāly lasṅaccarta ṅsattertwarakäm. Khiwattlaṅcci. Ṅsatterta thattaṣcci chashaṅka. Thattaṣcci attwa psacqqetterta.
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/ɕiɲe qenwə/
/p (b) t d ts (dz tʂ dʐ) tɕ dʑ k g q/
/f s (z) ʂ ɕ (h)/
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/w l r ʐ j/
/a e ə o i ɨ u/
/b/ only appears in loanwords. /z/ may or may not appear; I'm not sure whether to preserve it (in Middle Chinese loanwords and from lenition of /s/) or to merge it with /r/. If /z/ appears, [dz] is an allophone of /z/ after /n/; if not, it only appears in loanwords. [tʂ] only appears natively as a sequence of t + ʂ, but appears in loanwords. [dʐ] only appears natively as an allophone of /ʐ/ after /n/ and as a sequence of d + ʐ, but appears in loanwords. /ɨ/ has fricated allophones as is common in the region. The only consonants that can occur word-finally are -l -n -r.
/ɲi jino ɕomlan(d)ʐumaɲi qenwə swaɾe wen | ɲəge widokɨ ejecaɟi kɨteŋgɨn/
/p (b) t d ts (dz tʂ dʐ) tɕ dʑ k g q/
/f s (z) ʂ ɕ (h)/
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/w l r ʐ j/
/a e ə o i ɨ u/
/b/ only appears in loanwords. /z/ may or may not appear; I'm not sure whether to preserve it (in Middle Chinese loanwords and from lenition of /s/) or to merge it with /r/. If /z/ appears, [dz] is an allophone of /z/ after /n/; if not, it only appears in loanwords. [tʂ] only appears natively as a sequence of t + ʂ, but appears in loanwords. [dʐ] only appears natively as an allophone of /ʐ/ after /n/ and as a sequence of d + ʐ, but appears in loanwords. /ɨ/ has fricated allophones as is common in the region. The only consonants that can occur word-finally are -l -n -r.
/ɲi jino ɕomlan(d)ʐumaɲi qenwə swaɾe wen | ɲəge widokɨ ejecaɟi kɨteŋgɨn/
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Xinyei ꝁeinuo
/p (b) t d ts (dz tʂ dʐ) tɕ dʑ k g q/ <p b t d c z ch zh q j k g ꝁ>
/f s (z) ʂ ɕ (h)/ <f s (ss) sh x h>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/w l r ʐ j/ <w l rr r y>
/a e ə o i ɨ u/ <a ei e o i v u>
/jə wə/ <ie uo>
/ɲi jino ɕomlan(d)ʐumaɲi qenwə sware wen | ɲəge widokɨ ejecaɟi kɨteŋgɨn/
Nyi yino xomlanzhumanyi ꝁeinuo suarrei wein. Nyegei widokv eiyeiqaji kvteinggvn.
/p (b) t d ts (dz tʂ dʐ) tɕ dʑ k g q/ <p b t d c z ch zh q j k g ꝁ>
/f s (z) ʂ ɕ (h)/ <f s (ss) sh x h>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/w l r ʐ j/ <w l rr r y>
/a e ə o i ɨ u/ <a ei e o i v u>
/jə wə/ <ie uo>
/ɲi jino ɕomlan(d)ʐumaɲi qenwə sware wen | ɲəge widokɨ ejecaɟi kɨteŋgɨn/
Nyi yino xomlanzhumanyi ꝁeinuo suarrei wein. Nyegei widokv eiyeiqaji kvteinggvn.
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