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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:48 pm 
Avisaru
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or a shitty register-letter orthography:

/p pʰ b t tʰ d ʧ ʧʰ ʤ k kʰ ʔ/ <p ph b t th d c ch j k kh '>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng>
/r/ <r>
/f s h/ <f s h>
/w l j/ <w l y>

/i ɨ u ɛ ʌ o ɔ a ɒ/ <i ui u e v ou o a x>
/iː ɨː uː eː ɛː əː ʌː oː ɔː aː ɒː/ <ii uui uu ee aee eu vv oou oo aa xx>
/i̤ ɨ̤ ṳ ɛ̤ ʌ̤ o̤ a̤ ɒ̤/ <iq uiq uq eq vq ouq oq aq xq>
/i̤ː ɨ̤ː ṳː e̤ː ɛ̤ː ə̤ː ʌ̤ː o̤ː ɔ̤ː a̤ː ɒ̤ː/ <iiq uuiq uuq eeq aeeq euq vvq oouq ooq aaq xxq>
/ia i̤a̤ ua ṳa̤/ <ia iaq ua uaq>

/kʌːt ɲʨɒːʔ mṳːj na̤ːw buaj ʨaː ʔakaː kuː paː li̤a̤ʨ-sɛː || mṳːj taŋaj na̤ːw bɨːn ʨaː ʔakaː pɨ̤ːt pɨ̤ːt || na̤ːw bɨːn hɒːʔ ŋhaːŋ ʔakaː || ka̤j puʔ diŋ ʨiŋ wṳa̤ naʔ ni̤a̤ || ʨiŋ ʨaː nɒː tʌ̤ːn kɔː puʔ bɨːn pʰrɔː ŋhaːŋ ʔakaː ki̤a̤m kuː lɨ̤ŋ plɒ̤ŋ kɒːʔ || mṳːj taŋaj na̤ːw siː pə̤ːʔ ʨɛːm hɒːtdiaw buaj ʨaː klɒː kuː || na̤ːw ʨiŋ ʨiː buaj ʨɛːm hɒːtdiaw ʔɒːn ʔɛː ŋhaːŋ ʔakaː lɒ̤h luː plɒ̤ŋ kɒːʔ na̤ːw || naː̤w waː̤w paːj na̤ːw ʨiŋ ʨaːŋ || ʨɛːm hɒːtdiaw siː pə̤ːʔ naʔ ka̤j kɔː ʥɔʔʥial || na̤ːw ʨiŋ ʔɛː kabaːh ɲa̤t səː plɒ̤ŋ kɒːʔ kʰɒŋ ɲʨɒːʔ ka̤j || nɛ̤ː na̤ːw ʨiŋ ŋkɛːm ʔɛː ŋhaːŋ ʔakaː lɒ̤h luː plɒ̤ŋ kɒːʔ ɲʨɒːʔ ||/

Kvvt ncxx' muuyq naawq buay caa 'akaa kuu paa liacq-saee. Muuyq tangay naawq buuin caa 'akaa puuit puuit. Naaw buuin hxx' nghaang 'akaa. Kayq pu' ding cing wuaq na' niaq. Cing caa nxx tvvnq koo pu' buuin phroo nghaang 'akaa kiamq kuu luingq plxngq kxx'. Muuyq tangay naawq sii peuq' caeem hxxtdiaw buay caa klxx kuu. Naawq cing cii buay caeem hxxtdiaw 'xxn 'aee nghaang 'akaa lxhq luu plxngq kxx' naawq. Naawq waawq paay naawq cing caang. Ceem hxxtdiaw sii peuq' na' kayq koo jo'jial. Naawq cing 'aee kabaah nyatq seu plxngq kxx' khxng ncxx' kayq. Naeeq naawq cing ngkaeem 'aee nghaang 'akaa lxxhq luu plxngq kxx' ncxx'.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:00 pm 
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Here's my own current romanization of Orja, which I'm not entirely happy with:

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/m n/ m n
/p t k q/ p t k q
/f s x χ/ f s h ḥ/x
/v d g ɢ/ v d g ġ/gh
/l r/ l r
/j ɥ w/ j y w

/i y (ɯ) u/ i ü (ï) u
/e ø ɤ o/ e ö ë o
/æ ɑ/ ä a

In particular, I'm not entirely happy with the dotted letters for the uvulars. The graphs after the slash are alternates I sometimes use, although for various reasons I don't entirely like them either. If the language didn't have a rhotic I'd probably use <r> for the voiced uvular obstruent, but as it does that doesn't seem appropriate. I also don't really like diereses for back unrounded vowels. The main thing I want WRT the vowel system is for all 9-10 basic vowels to represented by a single character, since enough sequences of them are possible diphthongs that digraphs would likely get confusing.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:35 pm 
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alternate style specifically to address your problems:
<m n>
<p t k q>
<f s h ħ>
<v d g ḡ>
<l r>
<j ẅ w>

<i ü (ɨ) u>
<e ö ɇ o>
<ä a>

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:28 pm 
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/m n ŋ~ɴ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g q ɢ/ <p b t d k g k g>
/(f v) s z ʃ ʒ (ɕ tɕ x) h/ <f v s z x j sh tx c h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l i~- w>

/i̯ɘ y̯ʉ ɘ ʉ æ/ <ii uu i u e>
/u̯ʊ ə ʊ ɑ/ <oo y o a>

/bɑɾləq ɑdɑmdɑɾ təwməsənɑn ɑzɑt ʒæni̯ɘ qɑdɘɾ qɑsɘji̯ɘtɘ mi̯ɘn qʊqəqtɑɾə ti̯ɘŋ bu̯ʊlɘp dʉnɘji̯ɘgi̯ɘ ki̯ɘli̯ɘdɘ. ɑdɑmdɑɾɢɑ ɑqəɾ pɑɾɑsɑt, ɑɾ u̯ʊʒdɑn bi̯ɘɾɘldi̯ɘn, su̯ʊndəqtɑn u̯ʊlɑɾ bɘɾ bɘɾɘmi̯ɘn twəstəq, bɑwəɾmɑldəq qɑɾəm qɑtənɑs ʒɑsɑwlɑɾə tɘjɘs/

Barlyk adamdar tywmysynan azat jenii kadir kasi-iiti miin kokyktary tiing boolip dunijiigii kiiliidi. Adamdarga akyr parasat, ar oojdan biirildiin, soondyktan oolar bir birimiin twystyk, bawyrmaldyk karym katynas jasawlary ti-is.

Bad, but still better than the official Kazakh Latin alphabet.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:44 am 
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/m n ŋ~ɴ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g q ɢ/ <p b t d k g q gh>
/(f v) s z ʃ ʒ (ɕ tɕ x) h/ <(f v) s z š ž (š c x) h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l j/_i v/_u>

/i̯ɘ y̯ʉ ɘ ʉ æ/ <ie iu e u æ>
/u̯ʊ ə ʊ ɑ/ <uo i o a>

/bɑɾləq ɑdɑmdɑɾ təwməsənɑn ɑzɑt ʒæni̯ɘ qɑdɘɾ qɑsɘji̯ɘtɘ mi̯ɘn qʊqəqtɑɾə ti̯ɘŋ bu̯ʊlɘp dʉnɘji̯ɘgi̯ɘ ki̯ɘli̯ɘdɘ. ɑdɑmdɑɾɢɑ ɑqəɾ pɑɾɑsɑt, ɑɾ u̯ʊʒdɑn bi̯ɘɾɘldi̯ɘn, su̯ʊndəqtɑn u̯ʊlɑɾ bɘɾ bɘɾɘmi̯ɘn twəstəq, bɑwəɾmɑldəq qɑɾəm qɑtənɑs ʒɑsɑwlɑɾə tɘjɘs/

Barliq adamdar tiumisinan azat žænie qader qasejiete mien qoqiqtari tieng buolep dunejiegie kieliede. Adamdargha aqir parasat, ar uoždan biereldien, suondiqtan uolar ber beremien tvistiq, bavirmaldiq qarim qatinas žasaulari tejes.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:28 pm 
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Quote:
/[…] ɘ […]/ <[…] e […]>
/[…] ə […]/ <[…] i […]>
That's a tad unintuitive.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:57 pm 
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Pole, the wrote:
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/[…] ɘ […]/ <[…] e […]>
/[…] ə […]/ <[…] i […]>
That's a tad unintuitive.


Pinyin uses <e> for everything from ɘ to ɤ, so there's at least one precedent. Also, <i> for ə isn't that weird, given that's one of the realizations of unstressed <i> in English.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:45 am 
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communistplot wrote:
Pole, the wrote:
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/[…] ɘ […]/ <[…] e […]>
/[…] ə […]/ <[…] i […]>
That's a tad unintuitive.


Pinyin uses <e> for everything from ɘ to ɤ, so there's at least one precedent. Also, <i> for ə isn't that weird, given that's one of the realizations of unstressed <i> in English.

In both of these languages «i» is the higher vowel, though.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:25 am 
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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ plus length



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ʂoxɨhe ɻ̩ːpas ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs
pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɻ̩ːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:23 pm 
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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m ṉ n ṇ ñ ŋ>
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/ <p ṯ t ṭ c k>
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/ <ḏ s ṣ š x h>
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/ <w d r ṛ y v>

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ <a e ə ẹ o i ɨ u>
plus length

/ʃkəθaːt pɚɽan̪ n̪ewaːɳ xoːʃcəɾɨ məŋəːʂɚ kəɾuhewəːɳe || kɨɽuwaːjenɨ ɨːxeːʂʈ θeːpaʃirɨ təːɳaːɳ ɚːmɨːɾɨ poːwɚː ʈɚɽaʈ || ʂoxɨhe ɚːpas ||
ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs || pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɚːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

Škəḏaat pẹṛaṉ ṉewaaṇ xoošcərɨ məŋəəṣẹ kəruhewəəṇe. Kɨṛuwaayenɨ ɨɨxeeṣṭ ḏeepaširɨ təəṇaaṇ ẹẹmɨɨrɨ poowẹẹ ṭẹṛaṭ. Ṣoxɨhe ẹẹpas. Ŋəəhuuṣ mowɨyee ṯəəkṣəḏɨ šñəwɨɨs. Pəəsatɨ yudɨɨṣ yavŋaṭ ṭẹẹhəmp kɨɨhɨxak ṭṣəšñɨ.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:09 pm 
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Pole, the wrote:
In both of these languages «i» is the higher vowel, though.


True that, I could have used <e> for both or even <i> & <y>, but it wouldn't have been aesthetically pleasing.

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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m nh n nr nj ng>
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/ <p th t tr q k>
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/ <d s sr c g h>
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/ <v d r rr j i>

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ <a e ơ ê o i ư u>
plus length

/ʃkəθaːt pɚɽan̪ n̪ewaːɳ xoːʃcəɾɨ məŋəːʂɚ kəɾuhewəːɳe || kɨɽuwaːjenɨ ɨːxeːʂʈ θeːpaʃirɨ təːɳaːɳ ɚːmɨːɾɨ poːwɚː ʈɚɽaʈ || ʂoxɨhe ɚːpas ||
ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs || pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɚːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

Škơdāt pêrranh nhevāṇ gōšqơrư mơngơ̄srê kơruhevơ̄nre. Kưṛuwājenư ư̄gēstr dēpacirư tơ̄ṇānr ēmư̄rư pōvē trêṛratr. Srogưhe ē̂pas. Ngơ̄hūsr movưjē trơ̄ksrơdư cnjơvư̄s. Pơ̄satɨ judư̄sr jaingatr trē̂hơmp kư̄hưgak tsrơcnjư.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:30 am 
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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m nn n ṇ ñ ṅ>
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/ <p tt t ṭ c k>
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/ <ss s ṣ ś x h>
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/ <v d r l y g>

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ <a e ə r̥ o i ä u> + macron

/ʃkəθaːt pɻ̩ɽan̪ n̪ewaːɳ xoːʃcəɾɨ məŋəːʂɻ̩ kəɾuhewəːɳe
kɨɽuwaːjenɨ ɨːxeːʂʈ θeːpaʃirɨ təːɳaːɳ ɻ̩ːmɨːɾɨ poːwɻ̩ː ʈɻ̩ɽaʈ
ʂoxɨhe ɻ̩ːpas ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs
pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɻ̩ːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

śkassāt pr̥lann nnevāṇ xōścərä məṅə̄ṣr̥ kəruhevə̄ṇe
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:19 pm 
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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ m nð n nh gy g
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/ p tð t th ty k
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/ sð s sh sy ch h
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/ v d r rh j ṽ
/n̪t̪ ʈʂ/ ntð tsh etc.

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ a e õ ă o i ũ u + doubled

Sykõsðaat părhanð nðevaanh choostyõrũ mõgõõshă kõruhevõõnhe
kũrhuvaajenũ ũũcheesth sðeepashirũ tõõnhaanh ăămũũrũ poovăă thărhath
shochũhe ăăpas gõõhuush movũjee tðõõkshõsðũ snhõvũũs
põõsatũ judũũsh jaṽgath thăăhõmp kũũhũchak tshõsnyũ.

/ʃkəθaːt pɻ̩ɽan̪ n̪ewaːɳ xoːʃcəɾɨ məŋəːʂɻ̩ kəɾuhewəːɳe
kɨɽuwaːjenɨ ɨːxeːʂʈ θeːpaʃirɨ təːɳaːɳ ɻ̩ːmɨːɾɨ poːwɻ̩ː ʈɻ̩ɽaʈ
ʂoxɨhe ɻ̩ːpas ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs
pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɻ̩ːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:19 pm 
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/m n̪ n ɳ ɲ ŋ/ <m nh n rn nj ng>
/p t̪ t ʈ c k/ <p d t rt tj k>
/θ s ʂ ʃ x h/ <th s rs sj x h~-h>
/w ð ɾ ɽ j ɨ̯/ <w rh r rr y g>

/a e ə ɚ o i ɨ u/ <a ei e è o ii i u>
plus length <á éi é ê ó íi í ú>

/ʃkəθaːt pɻ̩ɽan̪ n̪ewaːɳ xoːʃcəɾɨ məŋəːʂɻ̩ kəɾuhewəːɳe
kɨɽuwaːjenɨ ɨːxeːʂʈ θeːpaʃirɨ təːɳaːɳ ɻ̩ːmɨːɾɨ poːwɻ̩ː ʈɻ̩ɽaʈ
ʂoxɨhe ɻ̩ːpas ŋəːhuːʂ mowɨjeː t̪əːkʂəθɨ ʃɲəwɨːs
pəːsatɨ juðɨːʂ jaɨ̯ŋaʈ ʈɻ̩ːhəmp kɨːhɨxak ʈʂəʃɲɨ/

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:04 pm 
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A thing:

/p t t͡ɬ t͡ɕ k/
/pː tː t͡ɬː t͡ɕː kː/
/ʋ z l j ɣ/
/fː sː ɬː ɕː xː/
/m n ŋ/
/mː nː ŋː/
/r ʁ/
/rː ʁː/
Note: /ʋ z l j ɣ/ become voiceless [f s ɬ ɕ x] when clustered with eachother or with stops, and word-finally.

/i ɨ u/
/iː ɨː uː/
/e ʌ ɔ/
/eː ʌː ɔː/
/æ ɑ/
/æː ɑː/

There's a system of consonant/vowel harmony where /t͡ɕ t͡ɕː j ɕː i iː e eː æ æː/ alternate with /k kː ɣ xː ɨ ɨː ʌ ʌː ɑ ɑː/. /n nː/ may or may not alternate with /ŋ ŋː/ depending on the word, for historical reasons.

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Another thing:

/m mʲ n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p pʲ t t͡ɬ k kʷ/
/f v fʲ vʲ θ ð s h/
/l ɬ ɮ ɹ ɾ r/
/j w/
Note: stops become voiced [b bʲ d d͡ɮ g gʷ] when adjacent to other voiced consonants.
Note: /ɾ/ only occurs intervocally.

/i u/
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/
/a/
/ɛʊ ɔɪ/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:23 pm 
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A thing:

/p t t͡ɬ t͡ɕ k/ <p t ƛ q k>
/pː tː t͡ɬː t͡ɕː kː/ <pp tt ƛƛ qq kk>
/ʋ z l j ɣ/ <w z l j g>
/fː sː ɬː ɕː xː/ <ff ss łł cc xx>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/mː nː ŋː/ <mm nn ŋŋ>
/r ʁ/ <r ř>
/rː ʁː/ <rr ř>
Note: /ʋ z l j ɣ/ become voiceless [f s ɬ ɕ x] <f s ł c x> when clustered with eachother or with stops, and word-finally.

/i ɨ u/ <i y u>
/iː ɨː uː/ <ii yy uu>
/e ʌ ɔ/ <e v o>
/eː ʌː ɔː/ <ee vv oo>
/æ ɑ/ <æ a>
/æː ɑː/ <ææ aa>

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Another thing:

/m mʲ n ŋ ŋʷ/ <m mj n g gw>
/p pʲ t t͡ɬ k kʷ/ <p pj t tl k kw>
/f v fʲ vʲ θ ð s h/ <f v fj vj th dh s h>
/l ɬ ɮ ɹ ɾ r/ <l lh dl r rd rr>
/j w/ <j w>

/i u/ <i u>
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/ <e ea o oa>
/a/ <a>
/ɛʊ ɔɪ/ <eu oi>

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:33 am 
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/p t t͡ɬ t͡ɕ k/ <b d dl ǵ g>
/pː tː t͡ɬː t͡ɕː kː/ <p t tl ḱ k>
/ʋ z l j ɣ/ <v z l y ǥ>
/fː sː ɬː ɕː xː/ <f s ł š h>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/mː nː ŋː/ <m̄ n̄ ŋ̄>
/r ʁ/ <r x>
/rː ʁː/ <r̄ x̄>
Note: /ʋ z l j ɣ/ become voiceless [f s ɬ ɕ x] when clustered with eachother or with stops, and word-finally.

/i ɨ u/ <í i u>
/iː ɨː uː/ <íí ii uu>
/e ʌ ɔ/ <é e o>
/eː ʌː ɔː/ <éé ee oo>
/æ ɑ/ <á a>
/æː ɑː/ <áá aa>


There's a system of consonant/vowel harmony where /t͡ɕ t͡ɕː j ɕː i iː e eː æ æː/ alternate with /k kː ɣ xː ɨ ɨː ʌ ʌː ɑ ɑː/. /n nː/ may or may not alternate with /ŋ ŋː/ depending on the word, for historical reasons.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:45 am 
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Haplogy wrote:
A thing:

/p t t͡ɬ t͡ɕ k/
/pː tː t͡ɬː t͡ɕː kː/
/ʋ z l j ɣ/
/fː sː ɬː ɕː xː/
/m n ŋ/
/mː nː ŋː/
/r ʁ/
/rː ʁː/
Note: /ʋ z l j ɣ/ become voiceless [f s ɬ ɕ x] when clustered with eachother or with stops, and word-finally.

«p t tł c k»
«pp tt ttł cc kk»
«v z l y g»
«f s ł ç h»
«m n ŋ»
«mm nn ŋŋ»
«r ğ»
«rr ğğ»

Quote:
/i ɨ u/
/iː ɨː uː/
/e ʌ ɔ/
/eː ʌː ɔː/
/æ ɑ/
/æː ɑː/

There's a system of consonant/vowel harmony where /t͡ɕ t͡ɕː j ɕː i iː e eː æ æː/ alternate with /k kː ɣ xː ɨ ɨː ʌ ʌː ɑ ɑː/. /n nː/ may or may not alternate with /ŋ ŋː/ depending on the word, for historical reasons.

«i ı u»
«ii ıı uu»
«ė e o»
«ėė ee oo»
«ȧ a»
«ȧȧ a»

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:59 am 
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[quote="opipik"]/m n ŋ~ɴ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g q ɢ/ <p b t d k g q gh>
/(f v) s z ʃ ʒ (ɕ tɕ x) h/ <f v s z sh zh (xh txh kh) c h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l j w>

/i̯ɘ y̯ʉ ɘ ʉ æ/ <i io e eo ae>
/u̯ʊ ə ʊ ɑ/ <u y o a>

/bɑɾləq ɑdɑmdɑɾ təwməsənɑn ɑzɑt ʒæni̯ɘ qɑdɘɾ qɑsɘji̯ɘtɘ mi̯ɘn qʊqəqtɑɾə ti̯ɘŋ bu̯ʊlɘp dʉnɘji̯ɘgi̯ɘ ki̯ɘli̯ɘdɘ. ɑdɑmdɑɾɢɑ ɑqəɾ pɑɾɑsɑt, ɑɾ u̯ʊʒdɑn bi̯ɘɾɘldi̯ɘn, su̯ʊndəqtɑn u̯ʊlɑɾ bɘɾ bɘɾɘmi̯ɘn twəstəq, bɑwəɾmɑldəq qɑɾəm qɑtənɑs ʒɑsɑwlɑɾə tɘjɘs/

Barlyq adamdar tywmysynan azat zhaeni qader qasejite min qoqyqtary ting bulip deonejigi kilide. Adamdargha aqyr parasat, ar uzhdan bireldin, sundyqtan ular ber beremin twystyq, bawyrmaldyq qarym qatynas zhasawlary tejes.

Or, optimizing for pan-Turkic comprehension without using diacritics:

/i̯ɘ y̯ʉ ɘ ʉ æ/ <e eo i eu ea>
/u̯ʊ ə ʊ ɑ/ <u y o a>

Barlyq adamdar tywmysynan azat zheane qadir qasijeti men qoqyqtary teng bulip deunijege keledi. Adamdargha aqyr parasat, ar uzhdan berilden, sundyqtan ular bir birimen twystyq, bawyrmaldyq qarym qatynas zhasawlary tijis.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:25 pm 
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/p b t d ts tʃ tɕ dʑ k g kʷ gʷ/ p b t d c č kj gj k g kw gw
/f s z ʃ ʒ ɕ x~h/ f s z š ž hj h
/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n nj n(g)
/l ʎ r j w/ l lj r j w
/a ə i u aː eː oː iː uː/ a e y u aı eı oı yı uı
/ai̯ au̯ aːi̯ aːu̯ eːi̯ eːu̯ oːi̯ oːu̯/ aj aw aıj aıw eıj eıw oıj oıw
ogonek = nasal

Barru enaıwlęraıjnk kaıllaıjn hjesseng askwaj. Aujų farjahų wažnų wježyt. Aujųky ųžų kwahtų azbareıt. Aujųky žumąrų pljawoıh pjeret. Barru hjessungyn rukaıwas.
/barru ənaːu̯lə̃raːi̯ŋk kaːllaːi̯n ɕəssəŋ askʷai̯ | au̯jũ farjaxũ waʒnũ wjəʒit | au̯jũki ũʒũ kʷaxtũ azbareːt | au̯jũki ʒumãrũ pʎawoːx pjərət | barru ɕəssuŋin rukaːwas/

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:10 pm 
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/m n ŋ~ɴ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k g q ɢ/ <p b t d k g q gh>
/(f v) s z ʃ ʒ (ɕ tɕ x) h/ <(f v) s z sh zh (sh ch x) h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l j w>

/i̯ɘ y̯ʉ ɘ ʉ æ/ <e ö i ü ä>
/u̯ʊ ə ʊ ɑ/ <o y u a>

The Kazakh vowel system isn't actually *that* fucked up, you know,

/bɑɾləq ɑdɑmdɑɾ təwməsənɑn ɑzɑt ʒæni̯ɘ qɑdɘɾ qɑsɘji̯ɘtɘ mi̯ɘn qʊqəqtɑɾə ti̯ɘŋ bu̯ʊlɘp dʉnɘji̯ɘgi̯ɘ ki̯ɘli̯ɘdɘ. ɑdɑmdɑɾɢɑ ɑqəɾ pɑɾɑsɑt, ɑɾ u̯ʊʒdɑn bi̯ɘɾɘldi̯ɘn, su̯ʊndəqtɑn u̯ʊlɑɾ bɘɾ bɘɾɘmi̯ɘn tʊwəstəq, bɑwəɾmɑldəq qɑɾəm qɑtənɑs ʒɑsɑwlɑɾə tɘjɘs/

Barlyq adamdar tywmysynan azat zhäne qadir qasijeti men quqyqtary teng bolip dünijege keledi. Adamdargha aqyr parasat, ar ozhdan berilden, sondyqtan olar bir birimen tuwystyq, bawyrmaldyq qarym qatynas zhasawlary tijis.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:54 pm 
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did i do this already

/p b t d tʃ tɕ dʑ k g kʷ gʷ/ <p b t d tz te de c g qu gu>
/f s z ʃ ʒ ɕ x~h/ <f s s/z ce ge se h>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ne ng>
/l ʎ r j w/ <l le r i v>
/a ə i u aː eː oː iː uː/ <a o i u ā ē ō ī ū>
/ai̯ au̯ aːi̯ aːu̯ eːi̯ eːu̯ oːi̯ oːu̯/ <ai au āi āu ei eu oi ou>
nasal: -m, but nasal vowel + r = <n>, n = <nn> (reflecting diachronics)

/barru ənaːu̯lə̃raːi̯ŋk kaːllaːi̯n ɕəssəŋ askʷai̯ | au̯jũ farjaxũ waʒnũ wjəʒit | au̯jũki ũʒũ kʷaxtũ azbareːt | au̯jũki ʒumãrũ pʎawoːx pjərət | barru ɕəssuŋin rukaːwas/
Barru ornāulonāinc cāllāin hiossong asquai. Auium fariahum vagenum viogeit. Auiumki umgeum quahtum asbarēt. Auiumki geumanum pleavōh piorot. Barru seossungin rucāvas.

or, the eastern alternative:

Barru änāuläṇāiṅk kāllāin śässäṅ askᵘai. Auyuṃ faryahuṃ važnuṃ vyäžit. Aujuṃki uṃžuṃ kᵘahtuṃ asbaret. Auyuṃki žumaṇuṃ plyavoh pyärät. Barru śässuṅin rukāvas.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:51 pm 
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If parenthetical characters follow a letter below, the sequence represents a transcription change from the parenthetical IPA to Basic.

/(b, p) (s, z) k t (f, v)/
/g h y(j) l m/
/n r(ɹ) hl ʃ ə(sv)/
/tl vl vr(vɹ)/
/ᴀ a(e) e(i) o u i(aɪ̯)/

/'tᴀ.rᴀs/
Δäωäc = Täräs, Ältrunyän Goddess of the hunt

/'tᴀ.ruʃ.kᴀ/
Δäωuςϙä = Tärushkä (diminutive thereof and v. to hunt)

/'tᴀ.ruʃ.kan/
Δäωuςϙaφ = Tärushkan (above + yn nounal affix and n. hunter)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:40 am 
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I think I got your inventory right?

/m n/ <m n>
/p b t k g/ <p b t k g>
/f v s z ʃ h/ <f v s z x h>
/ɹ l j/ < r l j>
/vl vɹ tl sv hl/ <vl vr tl sv hl>
/ä e i o u aɪ̯/ < a e i o u ai>

I'm not sure why you have those clusters unless they're the only clusters you're allowed within a syllable, but they still aren't separate phonemes.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:04 am 
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I probably should have explained that a single character represents each voiced/voiceless pair. The correlation is as follows: я (b/p), c (s/z), and ѳ (f/v). At one time, δ was a combination of d and t. However, d saw so little use that they eliminated it. One thing English speakers would find strange about Basic, and it's descendant Baikal, is the absence of r-checking due to the rule that ω must be syllable-initial or in a digraph. Thus, words like bard can't exist in either language.


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