Tloko Logoglyphs

[Kereb]

i see what you did there

[Qwynegold]

It was a request by Serali.

@Qwynegold,

I forgot to mention that I have been trying a handwritten version and that seems to be developing similarly to the image you displayed.

[Qwynegold]

First chart
2 Squirrel
25 Close
46 or 47 Sit
57 Left (hand)
60 Right (hand)

Second chart
7 Wing
8 Grass
12 Hold
18 Comb
24 Mouth
33 Hang or prayer

[masako]

i see what you did there

Of course you do.

All usable suggestions have been added to the gallery.

@ Qwyn,

I already had a glyph for "sit", and I used different glyphs for "left" and "right", but your suggestion was motivational, thank you.

Recap of charts (keep in mind, blue are already in use:

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Now. The next chart consists of phonotactically disallowed syllables and a few have already been given meanings.

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Meanings? Any ideas?

[Qwynegold]

Why have they been given meanings if they are phonologically disallowed?

[masako]

phonologically disallowed

phonotactically disallowed

These are glyphs that are formed using the consonant and vowel symbols from the syllabary but do not occur because of phonotactics.

[Lyhoko Leaci]

Chart 1: 53 = tail (of an animal)

[Sevly]

1:53 - left arm; left handed > odd; weird
1:56 - right arm; right handed > proper; correct
2:22 - drill; bore
2:28 - edge; corner > sharp
2:46 - road; path; trail
2:47 - layers; repetitions

[KathTheDragon]

1:53 - left arm; left handed > odd; weird
1:56 - right arm; right handed > proper; correct

Oi! Left-handed people are awesome, and the rest of humanity is defective!

[Hallow XIII]

1:53 - left arm; left handed > odd; weird
1:56 - right arm; right handed > proper; correct

Oi! Left-handed people are awesome, and the rest of humanity is defective!

What about ambidexters

[KathTheDragon]

1:53 - left arm; left handed > odd; weird
1:56 - right arm; right handed > proper; correct

Oi! Left-handed people are awesome, and the rest of humanity is defective!

What about ambidexters

Semi-awesome, semi-defective.

[masako]

Chart 1: 53 = tail (of an animal)

1:53 - left arm; left handed > odd; weird
1:56 - right arm; right handed > proper; correct
2:22 - drill; bore
2:28 - edge; corner > sharp
2:46 - road; path; trail
2:47 - layers; repetitions

I already have a "left" and a "right" so I used "weird" and "proper". Good suggestions, btw.

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Charts:

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[Sevly]

Wait, what just happened? I swear that the date on that last post just changed. Is the date updated when you ninja edit, really? Didn't know you could bump like that.

Anyways, I'll be taking a look at the new chart later today.

[Bristel]

4:31 hawk (or one that looks better for that)

[clawgrip]

Wait, what just happened? I swear that the date on that last post just changed. Is the date updated when you ninja edit, really? Didn't know you could bump like that.

Anyways, I'll be taking a look at the new chart later today.

I get the feeling that sometimes masako deletes posts and reposts the same thing, perhaps to encourage replies by making it appear as though there is a new post in the thread. I may be wrong, but I feel like I have experienced this several times.

[masako]

Anyways, I'll be taking a look at the new chart later today.

I look forward to your suggestions/ideas.

4:31 hawk :) (or one that looks better for that)

Y'know...I kinda was thinking about that glyph for hawk...but I also had another glyph in mind that I can't seem to remember, so this one it is. Thanks.

[Sevly]

I get the feeling that sometimes masako deletes posts and reposts the same thing

Clever, clever. Now then:

2:01 - support; foundation
2:10 - fit; align
2:14 - scribble; jot down quickly
2:57 - leave out; exclude; ignore
2:61 - even; equal; balanced
2:64 - kaye 'surround' with holes in it > leak; let through
3:ntso - set up; build; construct
4:14 - car; wagon
4:28 - lift someone's arm > uplift; encourage

Hmm. I seem to like the second chart for whatever reason.

[Qwynegold]

phonologically disallowed

phonotactically disallowed

These are glyphs that are formed using the consonant and vowel symbols from the syllabary but do not occur because of phonotactics.

Oh, I misread. Anyhow, I don't understand the point of having glyphs for words that are not in the language.

4:27 shit (V.)
4:39 snail
4:47 intercourse
4:51 smoke

[masako]

http://www.frathwiki.com/Kala_writing/tloko/gallery << Updated.

2:01 - support; foundation
2:10 - fit; align
2:14 - scribble; jot down quickly
2:57 - leave out; exclude; ignore
2:61 - even; equal; balanced
2:64 - kaye 'surround' with holes in it > leak; let through
3:ntso - set up; build; construct
4:14 - car; wagon
4:28 - lift someone's arm > uplift; encourage

Very nice suggestions. All of them (or some slight variation) were added. Thank you.

4:27 shit (V.)
4:39 snail
4:47 intercourse
4:51 smoke

Good. I really like your choice for "intercourse", very nice.

Anyhow, I don't understand the point of having glyphs for words that are not in the language.

You really are misunderstanding. These are not "glyphs for words that are not in the language"...they're glyphs for syllables that are not phonotactically allowed. Think of Hangul for Korean...there are more than 11K syllables possible, and while they are pronounceable, they simply are not found used in the language. i.e. "꿶 흾 떇" and more. So, I decided to use them to mean other things...to form logographs instead of syllables.

New/updated charts:

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[Chuma]

The "kaye" glyph is awfully popular around here.

[masako]

The "kaye" glyph is awfully popular around here.

Well, I wouldn't say it's too similar. That logo is quite angular whereas the Tloko glyphs are fairly rounded. Besides, as many possible glyphs as there are, they're bound to resemble various logos and emblems at some frequency.

[masako]

Thanks for the move Radius!

[DePaw]

What program are you using to make these symbols?

[Sevly]

The "kaye" glyph is awfully popular around here.

Well, I wouldn't say it's too similar. That logo is quite angular whereas the Tloko glyphs are fairly rounded.

Although I imagine that a modern sans serif web font for Tloko would be much more angular, in the style of East Asain Gothic typefaces, and so kaye might end up looking very much like the Länsförsäkringar logo. So the question is, what exactly is "County Insurance" surrounding?

Also, just wondering: is there any pattern to which part of the glyph you blue out when it's been definitioned? It's always the larger part, but sometimes you've coloured two segments, as in nte'o, while other times it's just one, as in kote.

Anyways, some more recommendations:

• 1:19 - belly; underside
  
  2:23 - climb; move upwards
  2:32 - fire
  
  3:syo - grow; enlarge; increase; expand
  3:nso - help grow; care for; tend to
  3:nma - stadium; auditorium
  3:tluai - grill; barbecue
  3:tlua - meat
  
  4:31 - teach; instruct
  4:56 - come, amount, or lead to
  
  5:38 - lead; be at an advantage
  5:39 - trail; be at a disadvantage
  5:57 - strech; reach out
  5:53 - overextend; overdo
  
  6:04 - crawl
  6:12 - hide; take cover
  6:20 - inspect; examine
  6:28 - work; toil
  6:36 - pick; choose
  6:52 - miss; overlook

Oh, and also—just when I was about to post this—마사고? What witchcraft is this?

[Herr Dunkel]

<마사고> = /masako/ = Sano