Tloko Logoglyphs

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs: Two new charts!

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs: Update - new morpho symbols

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Congrats on making it into the Sacred Hall of Scripts. :wink:

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs: Update - new morpho symbols

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My congratulations, too!

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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2016 will be the year of the glyph for Kala.

My goal is to have 500 logograms by the end of 2016. 600 if circumstances permit.

Stay tuned.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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As of right now, there are 175-ish defined glyphs, listed here:

http://i.imgur.com/qmeswXQ.png | http://i.imgur.com/iQOIajo.png | and http://i.imgur.com/GjwbvA7.png

I've devised a "radical" scheme that I like, so, I will have two ways of displaying the glyphs, 1st listed in "pataka" (alphabetical) order, then by glyph radicals.

Subject to change, these are the radicals, along with variations:

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Basically, if the glyph is dominated (i.e. takes up the majority of the nine points) by a radical listed, it belongs to that radical.

Updates to follow.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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I’ve created a gallery for the Tloko glyphs, here. This gallery is in pataka (alphabetical) order. I will add another gallery in the coming days that will be ordered by glyph radical (to be explained). Each of these will be updated weekly (circumstances permitting).

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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Neat.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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http://i.imgur.com/xWO1zeZ.png

So, I've been dabbling with the logoglyphs in the "handwritten" form, and I'm disappointed in most of them. I think that the "handwritten" will need to remain solely syllabic in use, with very few exceptions.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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aiigghhh! I hate it when someone posts a link to imgur! It's been three hours since I clicked the link in the previous post! I have kittens dribbling from my ears! aiiigghhh!

Great script, man!
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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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The basic principles for (hand)writing Omyatloko are simple, namely that writing characters should be economical, with the fewest hand movements to write the most strokes possible. This promotes writing speed, accuracy, and readability. This idea is particularly important since as learners progress, characters often get more complex. Since stroke order also aids learning and memorization.

General Guidelines:

Write from top to bottom, and left to right.
Horizontal before vertical.
Outside before center (unless otherwise indicated).
Enclosures before exteriors.
Dots and minor strokes last.


A few examples:

Because each glyph uses all nine points in a 3x3 grid, each point is named to define and explain stroke order
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In these examples you can see that each point is not pronounced or listed as it may not be a juncture or stopping point for the brush. However, each point is covered by the brushstroke. A colon ":" marks a raise of the pen/brush.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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I like it!

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For a writing system, style is the main attraction ... a good calligrapher would give the exchange to the worst realization ...

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hwhatting wrote:I like it!
Thank you!
xxx wrote:a good calligrapher would give the exchange to the worst realization ...
I'm not sure what you mean.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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Given the "horizontal before vertical" rule, wouldn't anya be written pa-ko : pa-ua rather than the reverse?
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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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What's disappointed you about the handwritten form?

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alynnidalar wrote:Given the "horizontal before vertical" rule, wouldn't anya be written pa-ko : pa-ua rather than the reverse?
Yes, good eye, that was a typo in the image. Thank you.
kusuri wrote:What's disappointed you about the handwritten form?
Well, that was a while ago that I posted that, but it just sorta looked disjointed to me, but after coming-up with the method that I recently posted, I'm much more satisfied with it.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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Just wondering if this is too over-the-top? Or dumb?

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to have these glyphs be so similar?

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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I don't really see why it should be. A lot of Chinese characters are very similar, too...

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Vijay wrote:I don't really see why it should be. A lot of Chinese characters are very similar, too...
I would say moreso than these examples too, from my limited knowledge of Chinese characters.
Dibotahamdn duthma jallni agaynni ra hgitn lakrhmi.
Amuhawr jalla vowa vta hlakrhi hdm duthmi xaja.
Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro. Irdro.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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Travis B. wrote:
Vijay wrote:I don't really see why it should be. A lot of Chinese characters are very similar, too...
I would say moreso than these examples too, from my limited knowledge of Chinese characters.
I agree.

I mean, this means 'person': 人
This means 'enter': 入
And this means 'big': 大

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Vijay wrote:I don't really see why it should be. A lot of Chinese characters are very similar, too...
You make a valid point.
Vijay wrote:I mean, this means 'person': 人
This means 'enter': 入
And this means 'big': 大
Well, 人 and 大 are related symbols, semiotically speaking, so, yeah, but I get your point.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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masako wrote:
Vijay wrote:I mean, this means 'person': 人
This means 'enter': 入
And this means 'big': 大
Well, 人 and 大 are related symbols, semiotically speaking, so, yeah, but I get your point.
Wait, weren't the Tloko logoglyphs you were asking about related, too?

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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masako wrote:Just wondering if this is too over-the-top? Or dumb?
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to have these glyphs be so similar?
No.

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Re: Tloko Logoglyphs

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kusuri wrote:
masako wrote:Just wondering if this is too over-the-top? Or dumb?
[...]
to have these glyphs be so similar?
No.
Thank you.

I plan to post more glyphs as I continue to develop this script. I appreciate the feedback you all have provided.

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