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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:02 am 
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I'm trying out a new style here. This map is the Sultanate of Zender, which is in the southeastern part of the Kaspari Empire. The map took about two weeks to finish, with most of that time spent drawing all of those intricate mountain ranges.

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That's better than what I could do in 2 months. :-D


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Looks like someone found the drop-downs on Bevel and Emboss. :-D Great work!

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Great map! :)

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Damn, that detail! :-D

Looks like one of those 3D maps that curves according to height and stuff.

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Superb as always: the new style is more evocative than your previous work. I congratulate you, sir.

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I agree with all of the above comments. This is fantastic work.

I'd like to submit a motion to have you explain your process. I've seen other methods for creating mountains on The Cartographer's Guild and such sites, but there are very few that give a really nice, realistic look like this.

Awesome.

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Awesome work, Rob. Do you do commissions?

Now, if only there was a reasonable way to do all that automatically with a program, where all you have to tell it is where the mountains are...

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Since it feels pointless to add superfluous praise, how about criticism? The one thing I'd change is the textures/patterns/whatever. They're a bit bold for my liking, when zoomed-in. The biggest problem is the grey-orange-peel business labelled 'nazalil' - I assume it's just meant to look dry, but those cracks are so big they look like canyons... more subjectively I'm also not entirely sold on the forest, maybe because the dots look very strong and bullety compared to the relatively subtle shading of the background.

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Map is updated based on some of the comments here. I also changed the town label typeface to something a bit more evocative.


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Looking better! I really like the blending modes you're using now on the mountains.

I'd recommend lowering the outer glow on place names so it matches the base colour of the map, and perhaps making it a bit looser. That way you can make it look like the drawing behind faded out, and less like you've got spooky magic glowing letters on the page. (I'm pretty sure that's also the default glow colour, which stands out a bit.)

Also, try changing the anti-aliasing mode on the main title text. I'm guessing it's currently on either 'sharp' or 'strong', which is producing really hard edges—prefer 'smooth' instead for large text.

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I'm not sold on the font you're using for cities. It's too over-the-top for my tastes, and comes across as cheesy/gimmicky. A bit too D&D. After all,
But I'm particular not sold on using one font for cities and one for everything else, particularly in the places where you've got area names in one font right next to city names in the other. I tend to think that fonts work best en masse, not acting against one another, particularly when the fonts used are SO different - smooth vs sharp, curvy vs angular, generic vs specialised, simple vs ornamented, european vs indian.
I'd say that if you really like your city font, you should commit to it and put the whole map in it, which might also help the city font stand out less as unnatural (or failing that at least maybe find fonts that are closer to one another aesthetically, even if they're not the same).
Aside from the aesthetic issue, I'm finding it hard to suspend, as I can't really imagine one map-maker using both those fonts.

[Unless you have some in-world reasoning for the font differences, of course, then it can become part of the content, not part of the presentation]

EDIT: almost three fonts really, since the romanesque capitals have quite a different cultural connotation from the mixed case. Wait, no, four fonts, since not only does the wood-cut style on the title give a different connotation, but that font is also subtly different from the font used on the map itself, for some reason.
The faux-indian makes me think of a fantasy map. The capitals make me thing of roman provinces. The mixed case makes me think of european neoclassicism and the enlightenment empires. And then the engraver's title (and the name of the place) makes me think 'british map of 19th century africa'.

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