new 9 phoneme challenge

[qiihoskeh]

The idea is to create a (sketch of a) language or protolanguage using only these 9 phonemes (before any sound changes).

< p t k > - MOA not specified
< n > - POA not specified
< h > - but possibly some oral friction
< r > - voiced uvular fricative or approximant
< j w > -
< e > - vowel, such as schwa

[Pogostick Man]

/p t k/ <p t k>
|N| <n>, or <m> before /p/
/h/ <h>
/j w ʁ/ <i u a>
/e/ <e>

Syllable structure is C(G)(V)(C). If the vowel is not present, the glides have syllabic allophones: /j w ʁ/ . If two glides are present but no phonemic vowel is, the second syllabifies—e.g., /jw/ [ju]; /wʁ/ [wa].
Nasals assimilate to the POA of a preceding consonant. In addition the following consonant becomes voiced.
/p t k/ affricate to /pf ts kx/ before /j/.
/p t k/ not before /j/ lenite to /β z ɣ/ when intervocalic (including syllabic allophones of glides) or /f s x/ word-finally following a vowel.

NOUNS

There are two declensions of nouns, animate and inanimate.

Animate

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    SG   PL
ERG -t | -p
ABS -w | -a
GEN -n | -nie
ABL -a | -is

Inanimate

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    SG    PL
ERG -nu | -w
ABS -t  | -iut
GEN -wa | -iat
ABL -a  | -as

More to come later, I hope.

[äreo]

/p t k n h r j w ə/
p t k n h r i u a

onsets: /p t k n h r j w np nt nk pp tt kk pr tr kr ppj pj ttj tj kkj kj nj hj rj kw nw/
nuclei: /j w ə(ː(ː))/
codas: /n j w/

nouns come in two classes
class one takes -u for the plural and -ira for the dual
npan shoe npanu shoes npanira pair of shoes
tta hand ttau hands ttaira [someone's] hands, fig. skillset, trade

class two exhibits consonant gradation in the plural and has no dual
pakka thing paka things
rapa cow ranpa cows
tahai bird taai birds

verbs have five forms: infinitive/present, past, subjunctive/imperative, present participle, past participle
some paradigms:
rai raui raiiau raiaan rauitia to have
kata kauta kattau kataan kauttia to give
kitia kiuti kittau kitiaan kiuttia to know
ia iua iaau iaaan iuatia to say

adjectives, less common that stative verbs, have singular and plural forms and form predicates with the copula ia
piaha pianna small
anpania anpanina interesting
tara taina green

Ttia piaha rapa naa.
/ttjə ˈpjəhə ˈrəpə nəː/
[tːi ˈpiχʌ ˈɻapɛ naː]
very small cow TOP.PROX
That's a very small cow.

Hau riua ha paiua taai naa.
/həw ˈrjwə hə ˈpəjwə təːj nəː/
[χɒ ɻyə χʌ pøə tɛː naː]
today air LOC many birds TOP.PROX
There are a lot of birds out today.

Kuanua hia ana ua pahai nuaha ntaia hianua tau hia ttaira.
/ˈkwənwə hjə ˈənə wə ˈpəhəj ˈnwəhə ˈntəjə ˈhjənwə təw hjə ˈttəjrə/
[ˈkono χi ˈanɛ o ˈpaχɛ ˈnoχʌ ⁿdɨː ˈχino tɒ χi ˈtːɛɻɛ]
smoke ATT rings ACC blow GRD pretty.well fit.PRES 2S ATT hand-DUAL
You're pretty good at blowing smoke-rings.

[Nortaneous]

Stops /p t k/ may appear geminated when not initial. Geminated stops are realized the same as ungeminated stops word-initially, as [p t k], and are written as such; ungeminated intervocalic stops are realized [b l ŋ] and written <b l g>, but /nt/ is [nd] <nd> and /nk/ is [ŋg] <ng>. Geminated word-final stops always take an epenthetic -ɨ.
/n/ is realized as [n] before all consonants but /k/, where it is realized [ŋ], and /p/. The cluster /np/ is realized and written [m].
The aspiration, /h/, can appear only once in a word, only in the onset, and can only follow a consonant if it is in the first or second syllable. /th/ is realized and written [ts].
/j w ʁ/ are written <y w r>. Along with /n/, these form the resonant class, and can appear syllabically: /n/ is always realized as [m~n~ŋ] (depending on the following consonant) when syllabic, but syllabic /j w ʁ/ are .
/ə/ is the only vowel. Followed by /j w ʁ/ in the same syllable, it becomes [e o ʌ].
/tj t:j nj/ before a vowel or word-finally are realized [s tʃ ɲ] and written <s ch ñ>.

Epenthetic ə breaking up stop clusters involving fortis stops.

On a hill, a sheep that had no wool saw horses, one of them pulling a heavy wagon, one carrying a big load...

Nəbich, hutəgətn phir utsə chəngaləmi, omi yəkəribi həken wegəsin, omi kampətaybi tsandabi ñətəbi...
[nəbitʃ, hutːəŋətːn̩ pʰiʁ utsə tʃəŋgaləmi, omi jəkːəʁibi həkːen weŋəʃin, omi kampːətːajbi tsandabi ɲətəbi...]
/nəpjtt hwttkən phjr wthə tjənkʁtənpj, əwnpj jəkkəʁjbj həkkəjn wəjkətjn, əwnpj kʁmppətʁjpj thʁntʁpj njəttpj/
nə-p<y>t:, hwt:-kət:-n ph<y>r hwt-hə th<y><ə>nkrtən-py, əwn-py yək:ə-ry-py hək:ə-yn wə<y>kət-yn, əwn-py krmp:ət-ry-py thrntr-py n<y>ət:-py...
on-<INDEF>hill, wool-having-NEG <INDEF>sheep see-PST <INDEF><PL>horse-ACC, one-ACC pull-GER-ACC heavy-GEN <INDEF>wagon-GEN, one-ACC carry-GER-ACC big-GEN <INDEF>load-GEN...

[Nortaneous]

CC clusters are broken up with an epenthetic [ɨ] <e> unless:
* one of the consonants is /j w/, or the second consonant is /h/, or the first consonant is /r/, and there's a vowel (epenthetic or otherwise) immediately adjacent to the cluster
* the first consonant is a nasal
Epenthesis occurs from left to right.

Consonants:
/p t k/ -- /t/ has an allophone [s] before /j əj/; /j/ drops there if before a vowel.
/n/ -- assimilates to place of following stop. /np nt nk/ [m nd ŋg] <m nd ng>
/h/ -- /ph th kh/ [f ts x] Not realized word-finally after a vowel.
/j w/ -- /aj aw ɨj ɨw/ [ɛ ɔ i u] <ä o i u>. Otherwise, <y w>.
/ʁ/ -- lengthens vowels and drops if in coda; this is before j w vowel shit. V1rV2 = long V1 lowered if possible, unless V1 is a and V2 is high in which case you get the corresponding mid vowel
/a/ -- only vowel that isn't predictable.

Class markers on nouns = indefinite. At least three noun classs: C1 = round objects, C2 = other objects, C3 = inanimate objects

On a hill, a sheep that had no wool saw horses...

Ye madegere sigē ye sarengūwe begema dänax dādundegaru...
[jɨ madɨgəː sigɨː jɨ saːŋguːwɨ bɨgɨma dɛnax daːdundɨgɔː]
/jɨh npatɨkɨrɨh tjɨkɨr jɨg tjarɨnkɨrwɨh tɨkɨnpah tajnakh tartɨwntɨkarɨw/ (with epenthetic vowels marked)
j-h npat-kr-h tjkr j-h t-jarnk-rw-h pknpa-h ta-jnak-h tar-twntka-rw...
3S-C1 be.on-C3-C1 hill-C3 3S-C1 P.PL-see-C2-C1 sheep-C1 PST-shorn-C1 PL-horse-C2...

[Bristel]

/p t k/ <p t k>
/n/ <n>
/h/ <h>
/ʁ/ <r>
/j w/ <y w>
/ə/ [ə i u a] <e i u a>

Vowel /ə/ “assimilates” to a previous consonant, becoming /i/ when following a glide /j/ and /u/ when following glide /w/ or /k/. It also becomes /a/ when following /ʁ/.
/ʁ/ can be a syllabic nucleus.
The allophones of /ə/ are indicated in the orthography. Older orthographies did not represent the allophone.
Might add more allophones later.

onset: (C)(n,r,y,w)
nucleus: /ə/ which surfaces as other vowels.
coda: (n,r,y,w)(C)

Nouns:

<plural marker><ROOT><case marker>

Consonant final stem:
example: kur- (man)

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NOM: -V    kur-a
ACC: -ne   kur-ne
DAT: -Vs   kur-as
GEN: -Vr   kur-ur
INS: -Vrat kur-urat
ABL: -kyi  kur-kyi
LOC: -wu   kur-wu
PTV: -se   kur-se
VOC: -V    kur-a

Vowel final stem:
example: nene- (mother)

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NOM: Ø     nene
ACC: -n    nene-n
DAT: -s    nene-s
GEN: -r    nene-r
INS: -rat  nene-rat
ABL: -kyi  nene-kyi
LOC: -wu   nene-wu
PTV: -se   nene-se
VOC: Ø     nene

Vocative form is same as nominative, but has a particle <he> before the noun. Also with examples of allophonic processes:

he kura /hə kəʁə/ [hə kuʁa] “o man”
he ekura /hə əkəʁə/ [hə əkuʁa] “o men”
he nene /hə nənə/ [hə nənə] “o mother”
he enene /hə ənənə/ [hə ənənə] “o mothers”

Will add more later, but EDIT: changed the language from being agglutinative to fusional, luckily I didn't have a lot of work done on the language before changing the goal.

[maıráí]

p t k n h r j w a

/r/ ~ [ar] || /j/ ~ || /w/ ~
<CarC, Car> are slightly longer than <CrC, Cr>
/jj/ ~ [ji ij ji] || /ww/ ~ [wu uw uu] IDK

/h/ = [z] after /n/ or /r/

/tn/ ~ [nn]
/kn/ ~ [ŋŋ]
/pn/ ~ [mm]


Two genders, three numbers in objects:

pp | tt | kk --- masculine singular
* p | t | k when not followed by some sort of case, e.g. tapp-an > tap
wpp-, wp -- a man
haajtt-, haajt -- a letter
wakk-, wak -- a sword
pw | tw | kw --- masculine dual
* wp | wt | wk when not followed by some sort of case; a disappears before w r j, e.g tapw-an > twp
kjapw-, kjawp -- two ears
twtw-, twt* -- two lanterns
nkw-, wnk -- both of it/them
pj | tj | kj --- masculine plural
* jp | jt | jk
wpj-, wjp -- men
twtj-, twjt -- lanterns
nkj-, jnk - all of them


w | r | j --- feminine singular
*~CawV- > Cw, e.g.atawan > ataw- > atw alone; same ~CarV- and ~CajV-
but ikkwn > ikkw- > ikkw
hw | hr | hj --- feminine dual
* wh | rh | jh
nw | nr | nj --- feminine plural
* wn | rn | jn


Cases:
Words in their default, non-case form are used mostly for compounding.
takk- tak -- sun
nhjaj- nhjj -- light
taknhjaj- taknhjj -- sunlight
etc.

Regular | Polite | Honorific | Superior (applied to humans and some other special things only)
Only one word needs to be polite or honorific or superior for it to affect the whole utterance.
More may be pol/hon/sup if it would "sound rude" not to make them so.

-(a)t | (a)jt | (a)wt | (a)rat
High Topic

-(a)j | (a)jat | (a)jaw | (a)raj
Low Topic

The high topic may be a subject, object, or something somehow related to the utterance. (Sara (and I), we like vanilla. / For the thicker trees, I bought a special axe.) It is often repeated as a subject or object again (Her, I don't know (her).) without any special emphatic meaning. A low topic is more like a quick interjection.
E.g.That man [high], he was here again. The tea's [low] done. Should we talk to him?
The low topic also functions as a polite high topic, lowering the whole utterance.
You need the reports by noon? Them [low], I have ready now, actually. [being humble]
vs. Them [high], I have ready now, actually. or I have them ready now. [showing off]

-(a)n | (a)jn | (a)wn | (a)ran
Agent; Purposeful cause

-(a)r | (a)jr | (a)wr | (a)tar
Force; Accidental cause

-a | (a)jaw | (a)war | (a)raj
Patient, Experiencer

-(a)k | (a)jk | (a)wk | (a)rak
Goal, non-physical direction, transformation, manner, general instrumental
hwpnakj- machines
hwpnakjak - (make) with machines
ahkartt - victory
ahkarttarak - to victory; victoriously
jatthjapp - sickness
jatthjappak - becoming sick

-(a)hajk | (a)janak | (a)hawk | (a)harak
Manual Instrumental; physical direction
panaw- pen
panaw(a)hajk (?) (write) with pen
hwpnakkahajk make by directly controlling machine
katt- up
kattahajk upwards
pakk/paj - I
pakkaharak/paj(a)harak - to me

-(a)p | (a)jp | (a)wp | (a)rap
And, also, including; with
pakkap/pajap - with me
pakkap najap - to me and her
pajap nakkap - with me and him / and me with him / and me, and him

[qiihoskeh]

The sketches posted so far are all intersting. I'm afraid I got carried away with my own sketch, so I will only post parts of it.

j, w, ʁ > i, u, ɑ / __ (p, t, k, n, h, #)
j, w, ʁ > i, u, ɑ / __ (j, w, ʁ)
p, t, k > b, d, g / (V, n) __ (V, j, w, ʁ)
ph, th, kh > f, s, χ
hf, hs, hχ > f:, s:, χ:
hp, ht, hk > p:, t:, k:
pp, tt, kk > p:, t:, k:
p:, t:, k: > p, t, k / (C, #) __ ?
n > m / __ (p, b)
n > ŋ / __ (k, g)
əi, əu, əɑ > ei, ou, ɑ:
ə > ɛ
ɛ > ə / (k, g, χ) __ ?
ji, wu > i:, u: / (C, #) __ ?
t:j, tj, dj > t:͡ʃ, t͡ʃ, d͡ʒ
s:j, sj > ʃ:, ʃ
hj, hw, hʁ > ʃ, f, χ
nj, nw, nʁ > ɲ, m, ŋ
ei, ou, ɑ: > e:, o:, a: ?
ɛɛ & əɛ > a: ???

Nouns are either animate or inanimate. Non-predicate nouns are inflected only for case, those being absolutive (0), ergative (*te), genitive (animate *eth, inanimate *phr), dative (*rn), and comitative (*kj). For inanimates, there's no dative or comitative, but instead there are locational verbs regularly derived from inanimate nouns and pronouns.

Participles agree with the noun in gender (*r = animate, *w = inanimte), but take case only in head noun position at the end of the phrase.

Predicate nouns take the same subject person and number and tense endings as verbs.

Finite verbs are inflected for grammatical voice, person and number of subject, and tense. The grammatical voices are active (0), passive-anticausative (*wp), and for some verbs causative (*j) and inverse (*he). The subject suffixes are 1S (*jk), 1P (*rnw), 2 (*wt), 3 Animate (*r), 3 Inanimate (*w), and Same Subject (*en). There are also imperative (*e) and hortative (*rnwe) endings. The tenses are past (0), present (*hej), and future (*jrt), except that 0 is used in most subordinate clauses as relative present tense and can be used instead of future if the appropriate adverb appears.

Auxiliary verbs are used for process phases, some modals, and polarity. For infinitive and secondary predicate usage, only grammatical voice is marked.

Syntax is mostly SOV and modifier-head.

[Hallow XIII]

Are suprasegmentals allowed?

[qiihoskeh]

Are suprasegmentals allowed?

Yes.

[----]

I wanted to give this one kind of an Amazonian flair, so here we go:

p t k h
n
r j w
a

codas: n j w jn wn t jt wt

aj -> i
aw -> u
aaj -> aj
aaw -> au
after glides (w and j) and r, i and u are lowered to [e] and [o]
u is lowered to [o] after all labials
/n/ - in coda and intervocally: nasalizes vowel
nasal harmony: nasalization jumps over single consonants except for /r/
glides are ignored for nasal harmony
/t/ is [ʃ] before a consonant
/t/ is [tʃ] before
/n/ is [ɾ] intervocally; /j w/ are [dʒ b] initially
When initial, /n/ is [d] before non-nasal vowels, and [n] before nasals.
/r/ is [g] initially
/kj hj/ are [tʃ ʃ]
stops are voiced intervocally, and prenasalized after nasal vowels
When /h/ appears before /p t k n/ it stops voicing and nasal harmony spreading in that direction
if any consonant appears after itself (e.g /tVtV/), the second becomes a glottal stop.

Morphology syntax etc.:

Verbs are a relatively small class of words, the large portion of more detailed concepts are thus formed periphrastically. Each verb has six components:
Instrument, Goal, Action, Aspect, Theme, and Agent/Subject.

The instrument is what the agent uses to do the object. These can be thought of as body parts for human subjects, and then metaphorically expanded to the actions of non-human agents (individual body parts, natural forces, animals, rocks, etc.) These include:

eye: [ha-] all senses including sight; learning
head: [bõ-] thoughts, emotions
mouth: [tʃi-] eating, drinking, speaking, making noises in general
arm: [ãɾã-] most physical actions like picking things up
leg: [dʒo-] movement; falling, and by extension doing things accidentally
entire body: [ge-] physical states, reflexives

The goal is the patient, or the entity that is affected by the action:

inanimate object [-ɾã-]
animate object [-ʁota-]
surface [-we-]
area [-waga-]

the "object" affixes are for things with clear, definable volume; i.e. liquids and abstract ideas are not included. Surfaces are any specific side/edge of an object; or a place, like an island or a house. The "area" category includes gases and liquids, and also includes abstract ideas and non-island places. Ethereal beings, even if they are considered to not be solid, are still considered animate.

The "action" is the way in which the agent is affecting the goal:

change its form [-dʒẽ-]
contact it [-ki-]
move it from one place to another [-baʔu-]

Aspect: perfective or imperfective. Imperfective is unmarked, and perfective is [-(h)ni-]

Theme: This can sometimes be left blank (as with more simple concepts like basic movement) but often takes the role of the verb 'root'. It specifies the action more thoroughly--the difference between 'walk' and 'run' would be marked here.

Subject: This simply marks whether the subject is human or not. For people present in the conversation it is left blank, for people outside the conversation it is [-hĩ], and for non-people it is [-ʃa].

I'll do more later EDIT: maybe

[Pole, the]

The idea is to create a (sketch of a) language or protolanguage using only these 9 phonemes (before any sound changes).

Inventory for Biñimbok:

/b k ʔ n ŋ/ ‹b k q n ñ›
/a e i o/ ‹a e i o›
CV(C)

· /b/ is pronounced [m] ‹m› syllable-finally;
· /n ŋ/ are pronounced [d g] ‹d g› after a (phonetic) nasal;
· /n k/ are pronounced [ɾ h] ‹r h› intervocalically;
· /k/ and [h] change to [t s] ‹t s› before /i/;
· /ʔ/ is written ‹'› after a consonant, ‹q› syllable-finally and unwritten elsewhere.

[…]

Below are there some affixes used in the Biñimbok language. Please note some facts:

Morphophonology:
(i) When two vowels meet, the previous closest consonant is introduced.
(ii) If an affix contains the symbol A, it means that the word's closest vowel is echoed.

Morphology:
(iii) The plural is marked with reduplication.
(iv) The suffixaufnahme is present.
(v) The genitive marks ergative as well.

Morphemes:

- 'Ak- "and"
- 'i- (genitive)
- ban- (aorist)
- ñab- (subordinate)

- 'anga "come to"
- 'anti "be alone"
- 'ori "give birth"
- añtiham "be fast"
- aqñariq "talk"
- besiq "be big"
- iñak "be dry"
- iñdi "be one"
- imgen "be (the same as)"
- ñakbo "have (as an attribute)"
- ñiñin "be wet"
- ñoha "be (located in)"
- okkañ "wander"

- 'añdin "sand"
- 'ok (demonstrative)
- 'oñgeñ "plant"
- 'oqña "sea"
- bak'oq "fish"
- biñdaq "tree"
- bokba "mountain"
- keqnañ "sun"
- kosik "bird"
- nebi (1st person)
- nehoñ "land"
- nen'oq'ok "value"
- nik "man"
- ñirañ (3rd person)

[kusuri]

A lot of nonsense:

b d g m h r w y e/i/a
e = mid tone, often clipped/short; i = high/rising; a = low breathy, low creaky, or voiceless, often long
m written n before g/d.
g ~ velar nasal, finally.
Stress is regular, always occurring on the roots.

OVS, strict word order. Heads before mods.

Root form:
C(rwy)V(mhrwy)C

For roots,
-i- is the default tone
-a- denotes something opposite, broken, dead, unsuccessful, frightful, etc.

bíh- village
báh- dead/captured/surrendered/etc. village
ríb- woman
ráb- whore; dead woman
yírd- prostitute (m.)
yárd- prostitute (f.)
gíw- man
gáw- criminal; dead man
ríy- sword
ráy- broken sword
míhd- sun
máhd- moon (m.)
brím- moon (f.)
brám- menstruation (f.)
hímb- plate
hámb- ...
ríng- cup
ráng- spilled cup; broken/leaking cup
gíh- bread
gáh- moldy bread
híw- complete, finish, end
háw- ruin, mess up, finish badly, end suddenly, abandon etc.
bíh- to do
báh- to try to do; to do badly
byím- set up, arrange
byám- plot, plan, sabotage
yíw- fire (e.g. cooking fire)
yáw- fire (e.g. forest fire)
gíyd- this country, this nation
gáyd- other country, nation
míg- here; place indicated
mág- nowhere, not anywhere, somewhere, not here
díd- that person, other, they, them
dád- [same as above but ten times as paranoid]
gím- us, we
gám- us, we (shameful, apologetic)

Linking infixes:
-e- default
-i- denotes that the link is beneficial (usually just to the head, but sometimes mutually)
-a- that it is not (often paired with -a- above, of course)

ríbebíh- villager, village woman
ríbagáw- wife (in a bad marriage with a scumbag)
gíwaríb- husband (paired with a good but ill-suiting woman)

A linked sort of verb is always past, complete, fully in effect:
gáydabyámháw- decimated territory
gíheyíw- baked bread

A verb is always at least two roots, which don't use linking infixes:
háwbíh, híwbáh, háwbáh - to ruin
byímyíw to make a fire
vs. byímeyíw- the act of making a fire, setting up a fire; fire plan (e.g. fire escape route or combat tactics using fire)

Affixes:
-- a verb without any affixes is in the imperative
-er singular object (nearby); single instance (immediate)
-ir ^ but dangerous; causing something bad; causing sickness; etc.
-eg (ej before g) singular object (far; not in sight); single instance ((far) in the future)
-ig (ij before g) single far dan.
-e plural object; many instances (not specifically near nor far); common for intangibles/concepts (míhde - suns; day, daytime)
em- -e plural dan.; bad omens, dates, hours, etc. (emáhde/emmáhde - nighttime; time of darkness)
e- -er plural nearby
e- -ir plural nearby dan.
e- -eg (ej before g) plural far
e- -em plural far dan.
e.g. egáwem many enemy soldiers in the distance
byámeyáwig planning to start a fire

Bíhigíydigímer byámeyáwig egáwem. 'Many enemy soldiers far off are coming here to burn our village down.' or somesuch.

[DePaw]

I thoguht I would have a go at this...

Uuptak /ɯʔɯptak/

Uuptak is a semi-triconsonantal language, I say 'semi' because one of the affixes to the root form can be more than just a vowel.

For example the word 'Uuptak' means language, it comes from the root 'P T K' meaning 'to speak', the vowel affix is 'a', the other affix is 'uu', and the form is 'ACCVC'. The two affixes and form together mean 'noun, art, singular, neural'.

Another example word is 'natarih', meaing 'muderer', the root is 'N R H', the vowel affix is 'i', the other is 'ata', the form is 'CACVC'. The two affixes and form together mean 'noun, actor, singular, neutral'.

The neutral thing is to do with the social structure of the people who speak this language, where every noun is either positive, neutral, or negative, that is above, equal, or below, in social status to the speaker. Neutral is also used for stuff that has no social status at all.

Sound changes:
<j> → /i/ <i>
<w> → /ɯ/ <u>
<e> → /a/ <a>

Phonology:
/p~b t~d k~g ʔ/ <p t k>
/n/ <n>
/ʁ h/ <r h>
/i ɯ a/ <i u a>

I haven't finished all the word forms yet, but he's some example sentances:

Pakatak putkunu aaptuk aaktup
/pagadak pɯtkɯnɯ aʔaptɯg aʔaktɯp/
PakaTaK PuTKunu aaPTuK aaKTuP
to.speak(3->3, past, active) to.speak(resulting object, plural, neu) to.speak(actor, group, neu) to.listen(actor, group, neu)
The (group of) speakers spoke speeches to the (group of) listeners.

Nirunuh!
/niʁɯnɯh/
NiRunuH
to.kill(1->3, future, causative)
I'm going to kill you!

Uuptak
/ɯʔɯptak/
uuPTaK
to.speak(art, singular, positive)
Language

Roots used:
PTK - to speak
KTP - to listen
NRH - to die, to kill

[ObsequiousNewt]

Cue triconsonantal shitstorm...

*ducks*

[KathTheDragon]

Does it count as part of the shitstorm if I've been working on it on and off for a month or so?

[ObsequiousNewt]

Does it count as part of the shitstorm if I've been working on it on and off for a month or so?

Wait, what?

[KathTheDragon]

I've had a 9-phoneme tri-consonantal in the works for about a month. Were I to get it presentable and post it, would it count as part of the shitstorm you mentioned?

[ObsequiousNewt]

I've had a 9-phoneme tri-consonantal in the works for about a month. Were I to get it presentable and post it, would it count as part of the shitstorm you mentioned?

Erm, I don't know; I was commenting on the observation that triconsonantal root langs tend to get a lot of flame. Maybe that's inaccurate to begin with.

[KathTheDragon]

Ooohhh... My mistake.

[2+3 clusivity]

O RLY!?!

$: (C)(R)V(N)
C: Stop, Nasal, Resonant.
R: Resonant
V: Vowel, Nasal
N: Nasal
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Moraic Stress (i.e., one stress per word on any V)
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Stop: /p t k/ --> [b, d, g] / #_C; [ʋ, l, ɦ] / V_V
Nasal: /m, n, ŋ/ --> [ʋ̃, l̃, ɦ̃] / Vowel_Vowel; [m̩ n̩ ŋ̩] / C_C, _[tonic]; [ʉ̯̃ ɨ̯̃ ʊ̯] / a[tonic]_; [ỹ̯ ĩ̯ ũ̯] / ɨ[tonic]_; [ʉ ɨ u] / _[tonic]N; [ə̯̃] _[atonic]N.
Trill: /r/ --> [ʙ] / #_V, _N;
Vowel: /ɨ, a/ --> [ə̯] / _[atonic]N

[Hallow XIII]

I've had a 9-phoneme tri-consonantal in the works for about a month. Were I to get it presentable and post it, would it count as part of the shitstorm you mentioned?

Erm, I don't know; I was commenting on the observation that triconsonantal root langs tend to get a lot of flame. Maybe that's inaccurate to begin with.

Well the thing is that most people who make such languages haven't the faintest idea about them. In fact I know of exactly one good 3Con language (Alashian), which is a posteriori Semitic. Or at least I think it's good. I haven't looked at it in a while but it was made by Mec so it ought to be.

The thing here, of course, is that once you do get how it works the idea loses its novelty to most people (this is because the concept of a "triconsonantal root" as it floats in people's heads is terribly flawed to begin with -- really, use of this term should be discontinued).

[KathTheDragon]

Most of my ideas for tri-con root langs mostly revolve around what I've read about how the Semitic languages came to be tri-con root. Based on that, they're not likely to be your common-or-garden nooblang.