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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:49 am 
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So, I've been lurking around here for a while and I've finally gotten around to doing some actual conlanging so I'm going to do stuff with my hopefully not too KSL firstlang here (Although I'm not sure if the endonym is long enough :P ).

So anyway, here's the
Phonology

There are six vowels


Represented as following:
/ɑ ɛ e i o u/ <a e é i o u>



Also consonants.


Represented as following:
/p b t d k g m n s z ʃ ʒ r ts dz tʃ dʒ l/ <p b t d k g m n s z sh zh r ts dz ch j l>

Stress and other things about syllables.

Stress is applied on the penult if the last syllable is an open syllable. Otherwise, stress is applied on the final syllable.

Rising diphtongs such as /ia/ and /ua/ gain hiatus following a liquid. Compare ankankua philosopher (lit. thinker) [ɑnˈkɑn.ku̯ɑ] and polua fish [poˈlu.a].

A bit of phonotactics

(C)(H)V(H)(C)
HVH is pretty rare. CHVHC is unheard of. (H is a glide)

Next up is stuff. I'm not sure if it'll be syntax or morphology.

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Who stole /s/ and /z/? With all those other sibilants, one would expect them to be there.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:24 pm 
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The lack of /m/ is startling as well, as is /ʀ/ in a smallish inventory.

What is H in your phonotactic description? I see no "H".

Allophony?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:44 pm 
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What conditions the allophones?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:18 pm 
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I see the problem of not having /s/ or /z/, it's a sort of gap between the fricatives and affricates as well. Lemme edit that real quick.
The absence of /m/ also sort of annoyed me after I tried forming some words, doesn't sound right without it.

The H is a medial vowel, between the onset and the nucleus or between the nucleus and the coda, mostly because the syllables can only be monophtongs, diphthongs and triphthongs.
The allophones are complimentary for each other, although I don't know how well this works in natlangs.
(edit: I might also end up replacing /ʀ/ with /ɣ/ or /r/)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:14 pm 
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Having /ʀ/ in a smallish inventory isn't that weird, IMO- it's attested in Portuguese.

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