Which grammar would you like to see most?

Nannalu · Post by **Nannalu** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:38 pm

What grammar would you like to see most? It can be either a conlang or a natlang.

I would like to see:
Kannow by Nortaneous,
Nez Perce,
Ithkuil by John Quijada (I do have the grammar, I would like to be able to understand such abnormalities),
Nuxálk a.k.a Bella Coola,
Yuma a.k.a Quechan.

What about you?

TomHChappell · Post by **TomHChappell** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:46 pm

I'd like to see my own grammar of my own conlang.

Neek · Post by **Neek** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:48 pm

I'd like to see more demand for Proto-Deithas. I'm working less on syntax these days, and more interested in working on the daughter languages. The more information I have on the daughters, the more I can create more reasonable examples and lexical entries for proto-lang. Right now, the one in my signature hasn't been updated in a while--something I'd like to see when I can generate more demand.

TaylorS · Post by **TaylorS** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:17 pm

Proto-Uralic
Chukchi
Etruscan
Hittite
Sumerian

Vardelm · Post by **Vardelm** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:13 pm

Khuzdul

tezcatlip0ca · Post by **tezcatlip0ca** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:43 pm

Wedei-Littoral.

roninbodhisattva · Post by **roninbodhisattva** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:00 am

Ruanja (from The Sparrow)

Trailsend · Post by **Trailsend** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:36 pm

roninbodhisattva wrote:Ruanja (from The Sparrow)

YES.

The conlanging/worlding/culturing in those books was amazing.

roninbodhisattva · Post by **roninbodhisattva** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:42 pm

Trailsend wrote:
roninbodhisattva wrote:Ruanja (from The Sparrow)
YES.

The conlanging/worlding/culturing in those books was amazing.

I've actually attempted to do something with Ruanja before, I've definitely got a word list / corpus / notes that I made from scanning the books for details. It'd be fun to do fill in the gaps.

Trailsend · Post by **Trailsend** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:50 pm

One wonders how much Russell had developed that didn't make it into the books...hmmmm

roninbodhisattva · Post by **roninbodhisattva** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:53 pm

Trailsend wrote:One wonders how much Russell had developed that didn't make it into the books...hmmmm

Perhaps someone should email her or try to otherwise get into contact. I've considered it.

Bristel · Post by **Bristel** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:22 pm

Barely attested extinct IE languages
Caucasian languages (Nivkh especially)
Nortaneous' conlangs (Ketas, etc)
roninbodhisattva's conlangs (Dok Nhuang, and his Salishan-esque conlang that he never expounded upon

)
Izo's Sarden and Hellesan conlangs

I'd like to see some good simple grammars for Salishan languages and Nivkh because I'm working on a Salishan-like language myself, that would probably incorporate some aspects of Nivkh, ie morphology.

roninbodhisattva · Post by **roninbodhisattva** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:28 pm

Bristel wrote:Caucasian languages (Nivkh especially)

Nivkh is spoken in Siberia...

Bristel wrote:roninbodhisattva's conlangs (Dok Nhuang, and his Salishan-esque conlang that he never expounded upon )

Well, I just posted something about Dok Nhuang phonology! Though it's not complete. As for that Salishanesque language...about that...

Whatever happened to that Salish-y conlang that you were working on, didn't that exist at one point?

Nortaneous · Post by **Nortaneous** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:34 pm

Nivkh isn't Caucasian. It's an isolate spoken in the same general area as Ainu. I have some PDFs on it that I could upload next time I plug in the external that they're on, though. (edit: mostly phonology though; not sure what I have on morphology)

Bristel · Post by **Bristel** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:32 am

I was probably thinking of Ubykh, sorry...

Bristel · Post by **Bristel** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:33 am

roninbodhisattva wrote: Whatever happened to that Salish-y conlang that you were working on, didn't that exist at one point?

Squalipsh is still being developed. I've been taking little breaks from conlanging lately.

EDIT: I was looking for some information on Salishan clitics and morphology which I think you had something on.

Nannalu · Post by **Nannalu** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:46 am

I like Ubykh

I'm starting a new conlang that's kinda Nuxálk/Ithkuil/Ubykh.

alice · Post by **alice** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:35 am

TomHChappell wrote:I'd like to see my own grammar of my own conlang.

Indeed; the Complete Guide to Sunovian will be here Real Soon Now.

Izambri · Post by **Izambri** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:22 pm

Bristel wrote:[...]
Izo's Sarden and Hellesan conlangs

The Hellesan Grammar will take time because now I'm focused on my novel. This is the current state of things:

Partially complete
1. Introduction It's huge because it covers the genetic classification of Hellesan, its history, distinctive elements (which includes the evolution of sounds from Peran and Sarden) and the stratums of the tongue, plus a section about the Hellesanophony. Now it has more than 60 pages; with the expansion and the maps will be larger, so it could be divided into two.

Almost complete
2. Phonetics, phonology and prosody Almost done. I need to work on the prosody section.
3. Orthography But needs an updating. And I should create the font.
4. Dialectology Needs to be completed with more information as I work more the language. And I must create many maps for this section, which means I must make a digital map of Hellea and the eastern Megadelanean.
5. Morphology Done. It's a small part of the work, so it was easy and fast to do.
6. Nominal morphology I stopped at personal pronouns a year ago... I've done something the last months, and I could take up again and finish this section this summer with the rest of pronouns, besides adverbs, prepositions and conjunctions.

In preparation
7. Verbal morphology Done something in May, and I can say that I have the definitive model I wanted for the verbal system, because I devised a parallel periphrastical system for the regular one. Could work it this summer too.

Not ready yet
8. Syntax
9. Lexic and semantics
10. Appendixes

All that in Catalan, of course. When finished, an English translation awaits but I doubt I'll do it myself. About the Sarden grammar... well, it won't as complete as the Hellesan one, but I should work it in the following years besides Peran.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:45 pm

Nortaneous wrote:Nivkh isn't Caucasian. It's an isolate spoken in the same general area as Ainu. I have some PDFs on it that I could upload next time I plug in the external that they're on, though. (edit: mostly phonology though; not sure what I have on morphology)

holy shit... i've had it mentally pegged as caucasian too.

Izambri · Post by **Izambri** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:48 pm

Oh, and I would see grammars of some Tolkienan tongues. Sindarin, Khuzdul and Adûnaic would be awesome. As it would be Westron, specially the Hobbit dialects of the North Farthing, Buckland and the Bree Land.
And a Grammar of Primitve Elvish - Old Sindarin - Sindarin would be kickass.

SlayerXX33398 · Post by **SlayerXX33398** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:41 pm

I'd love to see a grammar of Vulgar Latin, possibly some of the Eastern varieties.

Yng · Post by **Yng** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:26 pm

TaylorS wrote:Sumerian

http://home.comcast.net/~foxvog/Grammar.pdf

TaylorS · Post by **TaylorS** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:49 pm

YngNghymru wrote:
TaylorS wrote:Sumerian
http://home.comcast.net/~foxvog/Grammar.pdf

THANK YOU!!!

Dauyn · Post by **Dauyn** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:08 am

Izo wrote:Oh, and I would see grammars of some Tolkienan tongues. Sindarin, Khuzdul and Adûnaic would be awesome. As it would be Westron, specially the Hobbit dialects of the North Farthing, Buckland and the Bree Land.
And a Grammar of Primitve Elvish - Old Sindarin - Sindarin would be kickass.

You mean, this?

http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-Sindarin- ... 564&sr=8-2

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