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t k q m n w wh f ff z x r a e i o ô u ȣ y
t k q m n/-ɴ w ʍ v f z ʔ ʀ a e i o ɵ u ɯβ y
When I and u are semivowels they are pronounced j and w respectively
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Iô tauxaqȣ, wheu nanaio ffazeriqokalyozum wa fe!
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a b c c̈ d e f g ḡ h i j k kw l lh dh th m m̈ n n̄ n̈ p q qʷ r r̈ s t ṫ s̈ u v w x x̲ y z z̈ Cˀ C̄ V̄ V̈ V̈̄ V̤ V̤̄ w̤

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My actual new romanization
a ă b b̆ c c̆ d d̆ e ĕ f f̆ g ğ h h̆ i ĭ j j̆ k k̆ l l̆ m m̆ n n̆ o ŏ p p̆ q q̆ r r̆ s s̆ t t̆ u ŭ v v̆ w w̆ x x̆ y y̆ z z̆

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I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.


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<a æ b c č d đ e f g ǥ h i k l m n ŋ o œ p r s š t ŧ u v x y z ž ʒ ǯ>
/a æ b t͡s t͡ʃ d ð e f g ɣ h i k l m n ŋ o ø p r s ʃ t θ u v x y z ʒ d͡z d͡ʒ/


Ǯabiǯa eǥimani œsuŧer æ gaŋada šymaǥo.
Æʒa čalupu habato đena vokane?

/d͡ʒabid͡ʒa eɣimani øsuter æ gaŋada ʃymaɣo/
/æd͡za t͡ʃalupu habato ðena vokane/

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a â b c ć č ç d e ê f g h i î j k l m n ň o ô p r s ś š ş t u û v w ŵ y ŷ z ź ž z̧

Prâzaśthyrž gvadlorî, henmê šôždâ fuguşkŵrać. Betlafârkolô ždryźňi ma jîzgŷ? Z̧anrâvo čaśśâ prižeždahû!

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<p b t d k g> /p b t d k g/
<c ç č ć> /t͡s ʈ͡ʂ t͡ʃ t͡ɕ/
<f v s z ş z̧ š ž ś ź h> /f v s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ h/
<j l r> /ʝ l r/

A couple of mergers have taken place in the vowels:
<a e i o u w y> /a e i o u ɯ y/
<â ê î ô û ŵ ŷ> /ja je i jo ju jɯ y/

Prâzaśthyrž gvadlorî, henmê šôždâ fuguşkŵrać. Betlafârkolô ždryźňi ma jîzgŷ? Z̧anrâvo čaśśâ prižeždahû!
/prjazaɕthyrʒ gvadlori henmje ʃjoʒdja fuguʂkjɯrat͡ɕ betlafjarkoljo ʒdryźňi ma ʝizgy ʐanrjavo t͡ʃaɕɕja priʒeʒdahju/

a ă ā b d e ĕ ē f g h i ĭ ī k l m n o ŏ ō p r s t u ŭ ū

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<p t c k q> as in IPA
<f th s z ch kh qh> /f θ s ʦ ç x X/
<w v j> /w ʋ j/
<a e i o u y> /a e i o u ɨ/

Dieresis indicates hiatus.

a à b c ç d e è é f g h i í j k l ł m n ñ o ò ó p r s ş t ţ u ú v w x y ý z

Şakat bíli e nòmbiłe vizi çampił. Àñata ben, ţap égero wyl camboja.

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<a e i o u y> As in IPA. Acute indicates lexical stress. /a/ does not take lexical stress because of reasons. Grave means creaky voice.
<b d f g h k l m n p s t v z> as in IPA.
<c j ł ñ r w> /t͡s ɻ ɭ ɳ ɹ ʋ/
<x> /x~ɣ~ɰ/
Consonants with cedillas are retroflex.
For the purpose of stress placement in the example I just went with ultimate fixed stress in case nothing was marked. Aditionally creaky voiced syllables attract stress.

<Şakat bíli e nòmbiłe vizi çampił. Àñata ben, ţap égero wyl camboja>
/ʂaˈkat ˈbili e ˈno̰mbiɭe viˈzi ʈ͡ʂamˈpiɭ. ˈa̰ɳata ben, ʈap ˈegeɹo ʋyl t͡samboˈɻa/

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<a ɐ å e ɛ i o ɔ ʌ u y æ œ ø> All of which except for <å> can also appear with an acute.
<b c d f g h ħ j k kh l ĺ p þ r ŕ s ś t x x́>

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<a ɐ å e ɛ i o ɔ ʌ u y æ œ ø> All of which except for <å> can also appear with an acute. As in IPA, Å is /ã/ and acutes are long vowels, å cannot be long due to sound changes from å long to æ long.
<b c d f g h ħ j k kh l ĺ p þ r ŕ s ś t x x́>
/b ɧ d f g h ɦ j k ʀ l ɮ p ɬ ɾ̆ r͝ɽ s ʂ t ɥ χ/
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a a̱ b ƀ c ȼ d đ e e̱ f f̶ g ǥ ƣ ƣ̶ h ħ i i̱ j ɉ k k̶ l ƛ ƚ λ m m̸ n n̸ o o̱ p p̶ q q̃ r ɍ s s̸ t ŧ u u̱ v v̱ w w̱ x x̱ y y̱ z ƶ
All letters with underlines are vowels.

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No, KathAveara, only if you think the letters with underlines are not vowels, that is OK, that is fine if v w x and y are not vowels, even if they are.

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My new romanization
<a e i o ơ ơ̈ ö u ư ü ư̈>
<b ƀ c ȼ d đ g ǥ h ħ j ɉ l ƚ ⱡ ɫ m n ŋ q ꝗ (q with stroke) r ꞧ (r with oblique stroke) v ꝟ (v with stroke) z ƶ>

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/a ɛ i ɔ ɤ ɘ ɞ u ɯ ʉ ɨ/ <a e i o ơ ơ̈ ö u ư ü ư̈>
/b β c ç d ʤ ɡ ɢ h ħ j ʝ l w ʟ ʎ m n ŋ q k r ʀ v ⱱ z ʑ/ <b ƀ c ȼ d đ g ǥ h ħ j ɉ l ƚ ⱡ ɫ m n ŋ q ꝗ (q with stroke) r ꞧ (r with oblique stroke) v ꝟ (v with stroke) z ƶ>
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<a e i ü o u ê ɵ y ɏ> /a e i y o u ɘ~e ɵ~œ ɨ ʉ/
<p ʙ t d c z̧ k g q ƣ> /p b t d c k ɡ q ɢ/
<f v s~ş z ç ƶ̧ ꝁ x h ƣ̲ ᵴ~ᵴ̧> /f v s z ç x ɣ χ ʁ h/
<m n ŋ> /m n ɲ~ŋ~ɴ/
<l~ƚ r~ɍ j~ьj w> /l r j w/
<ь> has fallen silent, but both it and <ьj> prevent the palatalization of the previous consonant. <ƶ> has also become silent.

a æ b ḇ d ḏ e f g ḡ i k l m n ŋ o ø p r s t u v y z
Baḡein æt ḏorotyr Saŋgama kloḇaz.

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a æ b ḇ d ḏ e f g ḡ i k l m n ŋ o ø p r s t u v y z as in IPA for the ones in IPA, lines are for fricative variants of the stops.
Baḡein æt ḏorotyr Saŋgama kloḇaz.
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a æ b ḇ d ḏ e f g ḡ i k l m n ŋ o ø p r s t u v y z
/a æ b β d ð ɛe̯ ɸ ɣ ʁ i k l m n ŋ o œø̯ p ʀ s t uʊ̯ ʋ yʏ̯ z/, but <ŋg> /nŋ/, <Vr> /Vɐ̆(˞)/ and <kl> and <gl> is /kʟ̥/ and /ɡʟ/

Baḡein æt ḏorotyr Saŋgama kloḇaz.
/baʁɛe̯in æt ðoʀotyʏ̯ɐ̆˞ sanŋama kʟ̥oβaz/

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a ă â b ƀ c c̆ d đ e ẻ ê ể f g h i ĭ j k l hl m n ñ o ơ ô ŏ ỏ ở p (q) r hr s t u ư ủ ử (v) w (x) y z
a aː æ b β s̻ s̺ d ð e eː ɘ ɘː f g h i iː ʒ k l ɬ m n ȵ o ɝ ɵ̞ oː ɝː p (qχ) r r̝ s t u ɞ uː ɞː (v) w (z̺) j z̻
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a c e g h i o u y ɉ j k l ḻ n z z̈ ẕ ẕ̈ ɋ ɍ ȼ ⱦ ⱶ ᵽ c q r t h p m ꜣ
/a ʦʲ ɛ ɣ h i o u y ɨ̯ j k l ʟ n z z̤ z̃ z̤̃ ɢ ɽˠ cç ɾ ħ β ʦ q r t hˠ p m ʕ/

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a a̰ e ḛ f h i ḭ ɨ ɨ̰ k l m n ŋ o o̰ p r s t u ṵ v w y '

Ko̰ aŋḭ pɨ̰ parɨa, ko̰ pḛ'e ŋa̰ 'opɨŋḭnen-ka̰.


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Exactly as in IPA except that <y '> represents /j ʔ/.

Ko̰ aŋḭ pɨ̰ parɨa, ko̰ pḛ'e ŋa̰ 'opɨŋḭnen-ka̰.
/ko̰ aŋḭ pɨ̰ parɨa ko̰ pḛʔe ŋa̰ ʔopɨŋḭnenka̰/

a ā b c č d ð e ē è ḕ f g ǥ h i ī j k l m n ŋ o ō ò ṑ p r s š t u ū v x z ž ʒ ǯ þ

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