zompist bboard

/a aː ǎ ts tsʰ ê ě ə f h i iː ǐ î j k kʰ l ʟ m n ɲ ŋ o ô ǒ p pʰ q qʰ r s t tʰ u uː v w x χ y z ɵ̞/
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<a aa ⱥ ⱥ~ b d dž ð e e~ ee é ë f g h i ii í j k l ľ m n ŋ o o~ oo ó ò ö ø øø ǿ p pf r ɍ s š t ts tš u uu v w w̌ x y yy ý z>
The tilde-letter combinations are digraphs. Double letters, dž, pf, ts and tš are also digraphs. All letters with diacritics above are considered separate from both the base form and each other.

mèþru wrote:<a aa ⱥ ⱥ~ b d dž ð e e~ ee é ë f g h i ii í j k l ľ m n ŋ o o~ oo ó ò ö ø øø ǿ p pf r ɍ s š t ts tš u uu v w w̌ x y yy ý z>

/a aː ɒ ɒ̃ b d dʒ ð ɛ ɛ̃ ɛː e ɜ f ɡ h i iː ɪ j k l ʎ m n ŋ ɔ ɔ̃ ɔː ʊ o ɵ œ œː ø p pf r ɹ s ʃ t ts tʃ u uː v w β x y yː ʏ z/

⟨a ā ȧ â c ch cʼ b bh bʼ d dh dʼ e ē f g gh ġ h ḥ i ī j jh k kh kʼ l m n o ō q qh qʼ r s š t th tʼ u ū w x y z ʿ ʾ⟩

⟨a ā ȧ â c ch cʼ b bh bʼ d dh dʼ e ē f g gh ġ h ḥ i ī j jh k kh kʼ l m n o ō q qh qʼ r s š t th tʼ u ū w x y z ʿ ʾ⟩

⟨a ā ȧ â e ē i ī o ō u ū⟩ /a ʷa ə ʷə e ʷe i ʷi o ʷo u ʷu/
⟨m n⟩ /m n~ɲ~ŋ~ɴ/
⟨b bh b’ d dh dʼ t th tʼ j jh ḥ c ch cʼ g gh ġ k kh kʼ q qh qʼ ʿ ʾ⟩ /b bʱ ɓ d dʱ ɗ t tʰ t’ ɟ ɟʱ ʄ c cʰ c’ g gʱ ɠ k kʰ k’ q qʰ q’ ʡ ʔ/
⟨f s z š x r h⟩ /f s z ɕ x χ~ʁ h/
⟨l w y⟩ /l ʋ j/



⟨a ǎ c ch c’ dh e ě f gh h i ǐ j k kk k’ kk’ q r s t tt th t’ tt’ u ǔ v vw w x xh y z zh ! ǂ ǁ⟩

I can't think of a romanisation for MobiusFlip's most recent post, yet I want this thread to continue. How about we change the rules so that you don't have to provide a next orthography or provide a phonology for the most recent orthography, as in the Romanization thread.

mèþru wrote:I can't think of a romanisation for MobiusFlip's most recent post, yet I want this thread to continue. How about we change the rules so that you don't have to provide a next orthography or provide a phonology for the most recent orthography, as in the Romanization thread.

No.

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a ǎ c ch c’ dh e ě f gh h i ǐ j k kk k’ kk’ q r s t tt th t’ tt’ u ǔ v vw w x xh y z zh ! ǂ ǁ

/w̝ f v t̪ t̪ː t̠ t̠ː tᶿ ð s̪ s̠ z̠ xʲ ɣʲ kʲ kːʲ k kː x ɣ χ ʁ hʲ ʔ/ <vw f v t’ tt’ t tt th dh c’ s z c zh k kk k’ kk’ x w xh gh ch q>
/! ǂ ǁ ɾ̠ ʦ̠ ɰʲ/ <! ǂ ǁ r j y>

/a ǝ ɛ e i ɨ ʊ u/ <a ǎ ě e i ǐ ǔ u>

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a ạ b c d e ẹ f h i k l m n ṇ o p r ṛ t ṭ v ṿ z ƹ

Many years ago, a friend of mine asked me to create a conlang for her fictional setting. She had a definite aesthetic in mind and had already written a list of 40+ words with no clear idea of how they should be pronounced, so I had to figure out a phonology and appropriate spelling rules. I'm curious to see what other people think the following sample would sound like:

Asfagol caedyl tach do Cweratiu: "Tannlach gleost cár, myll á myllon, duig á dugion, thógudh á thógdhon, céd gleostu cwasygh sí." Maegath dy fúrr swa tímmas foech te chlýd. Las Cwerait na perin Asfagla: "Tida sturr denn, sa gyf sturru dennygh. Tida beidd cywaill, sa gyf beddi cywalligh."

It looks like Welsh and Irish are at it again after giving birth to the Manx orthography. As this is a conworld conlang, I'm going to go on a Celtic-ish orthography for definitely non-Celtic phonology route.

Asfagol caedyl tach do Cweratiu: "Tannlach gleost cár, myll á myllon, duig á dugion, thógudh á thógdhon, céd gleostu cwasygh sí." Maegath dy fúrr swa tímmas foech te chlýd. Las Cwerait na perin Asfagla: "Tida sturr denn, sa gyf sturru dennygh. Tida beidd cywaill, sa gyf beddi cywalligh."

<a á b c ch d dh e é f g gh i í l m n o ó p r s t th u ú w y ý>
/a aː b k x d̪ ð e eː f g ɣ i iː l m n o oː p r s t̪ θ u uː w y yː>
There are no diphthongs. Doubled consonants are geminates when they are not intervocalic.
/as.fa.ɡol ka.e.d̪yl t̪ax d̪o kwe.ra.t̪i.u t̪anː.lax ɡle.ost̪ kaːr mylː aː myl.lon d̪u.iɡ aː d̪u.ɡi.on θoː.ɡuð aː θoːɡ.ðon keːd̪ ɡle.os.t̪u kwa.syɣ siː ma.e.ɡaθ d̪y fuːrː swa t̪iːm.mas fo.ex t̪e xlyːd̪ las kwe.ra.it̪ na pe.rin as.faɡ.la t̪i.d̪a st̪urː d̪enː sa ɡyf st̪ur.ru d̪en.nyɣ t̪i.d̪a be.id̪ː ky.wa.ilː sa ɡyf bed̪.d̪i ky.wal.liɣ/
Consonants and vowels link with the vowels and consonants of the following noun, respectively:
[as.fa.ɡol ka.e.dyl tax d̪ok.we.ra.ti.u tanː.lax ɡle.ost̪ kaːr myl.laː.myl.lon d̪u.i.ɡaː.d̪u.ɡi.on θoː.ɡu.ðaː.θoːɡ.ðon keːd̪ ɡle.os.t̪uk.wa.syɣ siː ma.e.ɡaθ dy.ɸuːrː swa.tiːm.mas ɸo.ex tex.lyːd̪ las kwe.ra.it̪ na.pe.ri.nas.faɡ.la ti.das.t̪urː denː sa.ɡyf st̪ur.ru.den.nyɣ ti.da.be.id̪ː ky.wa.ilː sa.ɡyf bed̪.di.ky.wal.liɣ]
(Notice that the linking does not carry across quotes. Dental stops retract before front vowels and /f/ advances before back vowels.)

<a b d e ĕ f g h i k kh m n o p q r s ṣ ś š t th ts tsh tṣh tṣ tś tśh tš tšh u v z ẓ ź ž ʔ>
Alternative orthography for the same language:
<a b d e ĕ fs g h i k kh m n o p q r ss śs šs xs t th tss tsh tśs tśh tšs tšh u fz sz śz šz xz>
Another language:
Khásoitoi
<phi phe pi pe p' phoi ph poi p b thi the ti te t' thoi th toi t d khi khe ki ke k' khoi kh koi k g kw' kwh kw gw q' qh q q̇ m n ŋ fhi fhe fi fe fhoi fh foi f shoi sh soi s shi she si se xwh xw xh x pf' pfh pf ts'oi ts' tshoi tsh tsoi ts ts'i ts'e tshi tshe tsi tse kx' kxh kx kwxw' kwxwh kwxw li le loi l i u a>
<a i u> sometimes have a grave or acute accent. A word with two or more syllables always has exactly one vowel with an acute accent, and any word with four or more syllables always has exactly one vowel with a grave accent

<a b d e ĕ f g h i k kh m n o p q r s ṣ ś š t th ts tsh tṣh tṣ tś tśh tš tšh u v z ẓ ź ž ʔ>
Alternative orthography for the same language:
<a b d e ĕ fs g h i k kh m n o p q r ss śs šs xs t th tss tsh tśs tśh tšs tšh u fz sz śz šz xz>
Next challenge:

<<a c e h i k l n o q s t θ u w x y>>

Syllables are of the form CV(n, l, y, w). O and u do not occur with finals, and -iw & -ew otherwise do not occur

Vowels may also bear an acute accent and be written twice: when this occurs, an acute accent it duplicated. A doubled vowel may also bear an grave accent on the first vowel only.

/a tʃ e h i k l n o q s t θ u ɯ x y/
<á aa áá àá> - /a˥ aaː aː˥ a˥ aː˧˧˦/
Next challenge (reposting, since no one did this language):
Khásoitoi
<phi phe pi pe p' phoi ph poi p b thi the ti te t' thoi th toi t d khi khe ki ke k' khoi kh koi k g kw' kwh kw gw q' qh q q̇ m n ŋ fhi fhe fi fe fhoi fh foi f shoi sh soi s shi she si se xwh xw xh x pf' pfh pf ts'oi ts' tshoi tsh tsoi ts ts'i ts'e tshi tshe tsi tse kx' kxh kx kwxw' kwxwh kwxw li le loi l i u a>
<a i u> sometimes have a grave or acute accent. A word with two or more syllables always has exactly one vowel with an acute accent, and any word with four or more syllables always has exactly one vowel with a grave accent

<a ạ b c d e ẹ f h i k l m n ṇ o p r ṛ t ṭ v ṿ z ƹ>
/a a˞ˤ b s d ə ə˞ˤ f h i k l m n ŋˤ u p r ɹˤ t tˤ v ðˤ z ʕ/

<phi phe pi pe p' phoi ph poi p b thi the ti te t' thoi th toi t d khi khe ki ke k' khoi kh koi k g kw' kwh kw gw q' qh q q̇ m n ŋ fhi fhe fi fe fhoi fh foi f shoi sh soi s shi she si se xwh xw xh x pf' pfh pf ts'oi ts' tshoi tsh tsoi ts ts'i ts'e tshi tshe tsi tse kx' kxh kx kwxw' kwxwh kwxw li le loi l i u a>
/pi pe pi: pe: pʰ pø p pø: pV: β ti te ti: te: tʰ tø t tø: tV: ð ki ke ki: ke: kʰ kø k kø: kV: ɣ kʷʰ kʷ kʷV: w qʰ q qV: ʁ m n ŋ fi fe fi: fe: fø f fø: fV: sø s sø: sV: si se si: se: ʍ ʍV: x xV: pʷʰ pʷ pʷV: ʦʰø ʦʰ ʦø ʦ ʦø: ʦV: ʦʰi ʦʰe ʦi ʦe ʦi: ʦe: ʰkʰ ʰk ʰkV: ʰpʰ ʰp ʰpV: li le lø l i u ɑ/ <a i u> sometimes have a grave or acute accent /Vː/ , both represent vowel length when not represented by stop. <khásoitoi> is thus pronounced /kɑːsøːtøː/.

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a aa a̱ a̱a̱ b bb c cc ch cch d dd e ee g gg i ii j jj tj tjj k kk l ll m mm n nn o ȯ p pp r rr s ss ts tss t tt tl tll tn tnn u uu u̇ u̇u̇ u̱ u̱u̱ v vv vh vvh w ww y yy z zz

<a aa a̱ a̱a̱ e ee i ii o ȯ u uu u̇ u̇u̇ u̱ u̱u̱ y yy>
/a a: ɑ ɑ: e e: i i: ɔ o ɤ ɤ: ɨ ɨ: ɯ ɯ: y y:/

<p pp t tt c cc k kk> /p p' t t' c c' k k'>
<b bb d dd j jj g gg> /b ɓ d ɗ ɟ ʄ g ɠ>
<m mm n nn> /m m: n n:/
<ch cch tj tjj ts tss tl tll tn tnn> /cç cç: tʃ tʃ: ts ts: tɬ tɬ: ^tn ^tn:/
<s ss v vv vh vvh z zz> /s s: v v: f f: z z:/
<l ll r rr w ww> /l ɬ ɾ r ⱱ̟ ʙ/

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<a ä ă b c c̱ d ḏ e ë ĕ ḝ g ḡ h ẖ i ï ĭ k ḵ m m̈ n n̈ p q q̄ r rr t ṯ v w x x̆ z ẕ>

/m mː n nː/ <m m̈ n n̈>
/p b t d k g q ɢ ʔ/ <p b t d c g k q h>
/t͡s / <z>
/θ ð s z x ɣ χ ʁ h/ <ṯ ḏ ẕ x c̱ ḡ ḵ q̄ ẖ>
/ʋ w ɾ r l/ <v w rr x̆ r>

/i iː ĭ ə̆ ɛ ɛː ɛ̆ a aː ă/ <i ï ĭ ḝ e ë ĕ a ä ă>

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<a á ą b ch ch' d ð dl dz e é ę g gh h i í į j k kw k' l ll m n o ó ǫ r s sh t t' þ tl tl' ts ts' u ú ų v w y z zh '>

a á ą b ch ch' d ð dl dz e é ę g gh h i í į j k kw k' l ll m n o ó ǫ r s sh t t' þ tl tl' ts ts' u ú ų v w y z zh '
/ɓ t tʼ ɗ ɬ tɬʼ s ʦʼ z ç cçʼ k kʼ kʷ ʔ/ <b t t' d tl tl' ts ts' dz ch ch' k k' kw '>
/m n/ <m n>
/θ ð ʂ ʐ ʂː ʐː x xː h/ <þ ð s z sh zh g gh h>
/w ʋ l lʲ lʲː ʎ j/ <w v dl l ll y j>

/i ɨ u ŭ ə e o ɔ æ ɑ/ <í i ú u e é ó o a á>
/iʔ eʔ ɑʔ oʔ uʔ/ <į ę ą ǫ ų>

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a aa ā āā b d e ẹ g gh h i ii ị ī īī ị̄ j k kk l m n ng nǵ o ọ p pp r t tt t́ t́t́ th thth u uu ụ ū ūū ụ̄ w y ý

/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ńg ng>
/pˈ t̪ˈ tˈ cˈ kˈ/<pp thth tt t́t́ kk>
/p t̪ t t͡ʃ k/<p th t́ t͡ʃ k h>
/b d~ɾ d͡ʒ ɡ/ <b d ý g>
/w l̪ ɹ j ɣ h/ <w l r y gh j>
/a e ɛ i ɪ o ɔ u ʊ/ <a e ẹ i ị o ọ u ụ>
/aː iː eː uː oː/ <ā ī ị̄ ū ụ̄>
/a̰ ḛ ḭ o̰ ṵ/ <aa ee ii oo uu>
/a̰ː ḭː ṵː/ <āā īī ūū>

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a ą ä b d e ę ë f g h i į ï j k m n o ǫ ö q r s t v w x y

a ą ä b d e ę ë f g h i į ï j k m n o ǫ ö q r s t v w x y
/mb tʰ nd nʣ kʰ ŋɡ/ <b t d j k q>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/fʰ v sʰ s ʂ x/ <f v s x r h>
/w j/ <w y>

/ɑ æ̤ ɑ̤ː ɛ e̤ e̤ː i ɯ~ɯ̤ i̤ː u ɔ~ɔ̤ o̤ː/ <a ą ä e ę ë i į ï o ǫ ö>

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a ą ã ą̃ b b̶ d ḏ dh d̶ e ę ẽ ę̃ é ę́ ẽ́ ę̃́ g g̶ h i į ĩ į̃ j ɉ k k̕ l ḻ m n ṅ o ǫ õ ǫ̃ p p̓ r r̃ ṛ s s̱ š t ṯ th t̕ ṯ̕ th̕ u ų ũ ų̃ w y z ẕ ž

a ą ã ą̃ b b̶ d ḏ dh d̶ e ę ẽ ę̃ é ę́ ẽ́ ę̃́ g g̶ h i į ĩ į̃ j ɉ k k̕ l ḻ m n ṅ o ǫ õ ǫ̃ p p̓ r r̃ ṛ s s̱ š t ṯ th t̕ ṯ̕ th̕ u ų ũ ų̃ w y z ẕ ž
<a ą ã ą̃> /a ã a̰ ã̰/
<a e é i o u> /ɑ e æ i o u/
<b b̶ d ḏ dh ɉ d̶ g g̶ > /b ɓ d d̪ ɟ ʄ ɗ g ɠ/
<p p̓ t ṯ th t̕ ṯ̕ th̕ k k̕> /p t t̪ c t' t̪' c' k k'/
<l ḻ j> /l l̪ ʎ/
<s s̱ š z ẕ ž h> /s s̪ ɕ z z̪ ʑ h/
<m n ṅ r r̃ ṛ> /m n n̩ r r̰ r̩/
<w y> /w j/

Next: a b c ç d e è é f g h i ì í k l m n o ò ó p q r s t u ù ú v y ÿ z

a b c ç d e è é f g h i ì í k l m n o ò ó p q r s t u ù ú v y ÿ z
/p mb t nd tʲ k ŋɡ/ <p b t d c k q>
/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/ɸ β s ɮ sʲ zʲ ʂ ʐ ʝ x/ <f v s l z ÿ ç r y h>

/ɑ ɛ eː ĕ i iː ɪ̆~ɯ̆ o ɔː ɒ̆ u uː ɵ̆/ <a e é è i í ì o ó ò u ú ù>

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a aa á áá b ƀ ch d đ e ee é éé ȩ g h i j k kh l ļ m n ņ ɲ ng ɲg o p r r̄ s ss s̄ ș u uu u̧ v vh w y yw ȳ ȳw

Is this dead again?

a aa á áá b ƀ ch d đ e ee é éé ȩ g h i j k kh l ļ m n ņ ɲ ng ɲg o p r r̄ s ss s̄ ș u uu u̧ v vh w y yw ȳ ȳw
[a aː ɔ ɔː~ɔu̯ b~β̞ ɓ χ d̪ ɗ̪ ɛ ɛː~ɛi̯ e eː~ei̯ ə ɡ ɦ j ʑ kˤ~q kʰ l̪ lˤ m n̪ nˤ ɲ ŋ ŋʲ ɞ pʰ ɾ ʁ̝ θ s̪ sʰ sˤ~z̪ u uː ʊ v v̤ w i y ɪ ʏ]

All caps intentional
<A AI AV B C D E EI EV F H I K L M N O OV P R S T V VI>

mèþru wrote:All caps intentional
<A AI AV B C D E EI EV F H I K L M N O OV P R S T V VI>

/a ɛ* ɔ* b k d e ə** ɵ** f x i~j k l m o u~w* p r s t y~ɥ yj/

*earlier /aj aw/
** earlier /ej ew/
*from earlier /ow/

<a ã ãq b b' c c' ç ç' d d' e eq f f' h h' i iq j jq j' l lq m m' n' o oq œ p p' r r' s s' ś ś' t t' u uq v vq v' x x' y yq>

<ãqb'a çœtte' nyqś'ś'imr'iqn veq h'ãjqeq>

Sol717 wrote:<a ã ãq b b' c c' ç ç' d d' e eq f f' h h' i iq j jq j' l lq m m' n' o oq œ p p' r r' s s' ś ś' t t' u uq v vq v' x x' y yq>

<ãqb'a çœtte' nyqś'ś'imr'iqn veq h'ãjqeq>

[ə* ɐ̞* ɐ̞ː* b bˤ k q** ɡ ɢ** d dˤ ɛ ɛː f fˤ h*** ħ** ɛe̯^ ɛːi̯^ i~j^^ iː^^ jˤ ɔo̯^^ ɔːu̯^^ m mˤ nˤ ɔ ɔː e^^^ p pˤ r rˤ s sˤ z zˤ t tˤ o^ oː^ u~w^^ uː^^ wˤ ʒ ʐ y yː]
<Q> was [ɣ] previosly and underwent elision with compensatory lengthening of the preceding vowel.
*[ɐ ɐ̞̃ː] [ə ɐ̞ː] [ə ɐ̞]
**Previously pharyngealised velars.
***Formerly [x]
^From former [ɪ ʊ]
^^From syllabic [j lˤ w]
^^^[ɔe̯] [ɵː] [ø] [e]
[ɐ̞ːbˤə ɡettɛ nyzˤːɛe̯mrˤɛːi̯n wɛː ħɐ̞ːjɛː]
<a á â ấ aь áь ə b bh c ch cj cъ d dh e é ê ế ë ëь f fh g gh gj gъ г гh ғ h hj hl hll hm hn hŋ hr hw i í iъ íъ j k kh kъ l ll lь lъ m n ŋ o ó oь óь ô ố p ph pъ q qh qъ r rъ s sj sъ ш шь щ t th tъ tj u ú uь úь v w ẃ ŵ wь ẃь ŵь x xh y ý ŷ z zj zъ>
<ғ> appears only after <a á â ấ aь áь ə e é ê ế ë ëь i í iъ íъ o ó oь óь ô ố u ú uь úь w ẃ ŵ wь ẃь ŵь y ý ŷ>
Hllərthtj uwúьsъŵь pəsъə fháьhŋíъғvbhếcъë zjŷғгhëь aь ŋóьgjiъғhw vrъəщxhzъôшь fhuьthílъ phẃьáьoғ sjentcjiqhr ŵ hjeғlliŋk khý mnếjëь.

Anyone going to take a shot at the one above, or will we need a new orthography to revive the thread.