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I love gleb, and what were the 11 consonants?

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There was on Reddit the other day. OP didn't give the seed, though.

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(Bare in mind, I think this seed is actually quite nice and I might save it somewhere. Love its Afro-Indo feel).
Seed 1097804354:


Seed 1095805038:
• After an obstruent or nasal, [mʲ pʰʲ pʲ] become [β̞̃ʲ β̞ʲ̥ β̞ʲ̥]; non-front bilabial stops or nasals become non-bilabial rounded back semivowels; [pʰ] become [w]; [p] become [w].

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• [m ɱ n̻ ṉ ŋ ŋʷ mb ɱb nd̻ ŋg ŋgʷ pʰ p pʼ pʰ̪ p̪ p̪ʼ tʰ̻ t̻ tʼ̻ kʰ k kʼ kʰʷ kʷ kʼʷ ʔ nd͡z̻ nd͡ʒ t͡s̻ t͡sʼ̻ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ mβ ɱv nz̻ nʒ ɸ f s̻ ʃ ɾ̻ l̻] persistently become front before a front semivowel. Rounded stops or nasals become non-front.

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Once, I got a bilabial flap and trill that contrasted. The flap was just a bilabial trill with a breve on it.

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What's this Gleb? (Besides an Old Russian personal name?)


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It's a perl script written by one Alex Finkmeier that generates Random Phonologies. You can or try that runs on his site.


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Question: What the fuck does gleb mean?

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Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
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Why would it mean anything?


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gleb /ɡlɛb/ (past tense glob or glebbed) 1. vt to baptize a duck with, while wearing rubber-soled shoes 2. n any of a range of thiocyanates used for said baptism. (From Middle English gleben, loaned from Old Norse gleba, from Proto-Germanic *glebaną, from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰlebʰ-, *ǵʰl̥bʰ. Cognate with Ancient Greek κλάφομαι ("I massage with a spatula"), Latin globeō ("I impale lengthwise with a tuning-fork"), and Old Armenian xkʿoy ("I am")).

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Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
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Syllable structure:

(C1)(C2)(C3)(C4)V

C1: one of /gʷ ʔ ɓ̰ ɠ̰ d͡ʑ f ʃ x ɾ/
C2: a consonant other than an affricate (/t͡sʰ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z d͡ʑ/) or one of /b d g s/ (/b d g s/)
C3: a consonant other than /ʃ/
C4: one of /gʷ d͡ʑ ɾ/
V: a vowel

seed 1223950889

In seed 1096034691, it gives a phonology with 61 consonants. 38 of them are stops.

seed 1115923172 has a syllabic pharyngealized velar nasal with a length distinction.


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20:24 < Nortaneous> 1222805010 is probably a real language somewhere in taiwan
20:27 < Nortaneous> 1223198692 is actually good
^ mostly putting these here in case anyone wants to use them

1223460443:
/mpʰ mp mpʼ mb mɓ̰ pʰ p pʼ ɓ̰/
/i ɯ u æ a ɒ/

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1218022923 has creaky-voiced implosives and /hʷ/, and this:
[*]Voiceless glottal fricatives [h hʷ] persistently become non-fricative non-resonant glottal fricatives and assimilate in place of articulation to a following non-labial obstruent.

What on earth is a "non-resonant glottal fricative"?

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Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
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 Post subject: Re: The glebst of Gleb
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What the heck is a "non-fricative glottal fricative", I'd rather ask.

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My guess is the intention is to distinguish between genuine fricatives and the more common bare phonation represented by /h/.


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Consonants
Labial Laminal
alveolar Laminal
alveolar
sibilant Retroflex Retroflex
sibilant Palatoalv. Palatoalv.
sibilant /
palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m n̻ ɳ ṉ ɲ
Stop pʰ p b ɓ̰ tʰ̻ t̻ d̻ ɗ̰̻ t͡s̻ ʈʰ ʈ ɖ ɗ̢̰ ʈ͡ʂ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ kʰ k g
Fricative f s̻ ʂ ʃ h
Resonant r̻ j̥ j

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i ĩ ɨ ɨ̃ u ũ
Mid-high e ẽ o õ
Low ɑ ɑ̃ ɒ ɒ̃
37 consonants, but 14 VOWELS! What???

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