The glebst of Gleb

Substantial postings about constructed languages and constructed worlds in general. Good place to mention your own or evaluate someone else's. Put quick questions in C&C Quickies instead.
Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

A horror story come true
Might add 16 tones to make it like iau.
Consonants
Bilabial Alveolnar Velar
Nasal ŋ g
Stop p b t d k p b t d k
Tap ɾ r
Front Central Back
High i ɨ u i ū u
Mid-high e ɘ o e ō o
Mid-low ɛ ɜ ɔ è ā ò
Low a a
seriously, only one nasal. And it is eng. 7 consonants and 10 vowels. B can be pronounced m before rounded vowels and d can be pronounced n before back vowels.
/utɛ/ [utɛ]
/ŋepɛ/ [ŋepɛ]
/ae/ [ae]
/doo/ [doo]
/keu/ [keu]
/baŋɛe/ [bãŋɛe]
/u/
/diɔ/ [diɔ]
/abɘbi/ [abɘbi]
/kuɔti/ [kuɔti]
/tapɛ/ [tapɛ]
/biputɛ/ [biputɛ]
/deuɛ/ [deuɛ]
/ɔbuku/ [ɔbukʷu]
/kɜɔ/ [kɜɔ]
/dɛko/ [dɛko]
/dɜbi/ [dɜbi]
/poɔtu/ [poɔtu]
/ŋɔɔ/ [ŋɔɔ]
/ɛpɔɔ/ [ɛpɔɔ]
/ŋipaɔ/ [ŋipaɔ]
/ŋɨɛɔ/ [ŋɨɛɔ]
/dɔdupɛ/ [dɔdupɛ]
/tokɘɛ/ [tokɘɛ]
/ŋipa/ [ŋipa]
/ŋɛɾɛpɛ/ [ŋɛɾɛpɛ]
/ŋɛipe/ [ŋɛipe]
/dɛbɔ/ [dɛbɔ]
/ei/ [ei]
/pɜdɔ/ [pɜdɔ]
Last edited by Birdlang on Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:33 am, edited 2 times in total.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

User avatar
Ketumak
Lebom
Lebom
Posts: 231
Joined: Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:42 pm
Location: The Lost Land of Suburbia (a.k.a. Harrogate, UK)
Contact:

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Ketumak »

Gleb seed 2128440978.

Has a lot of principles at work within it. There's aspirated and glottalised stops (or are they ejectives? Marked C', etc. which leaves the matter doubtful. Maybe it's up to the user). There's also loads of nasality. These principles interact to produce:

Consonants

m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ

mpʰ mpʼ mb ntʰ ntʼ nd nt͡ʃʰ nt͡ʃʼ nd͡ʒ ŋkʰ ŋkʼ ŋg

pʰ p pʼ tʰ t tʼ t͡ʃʰ tʃ t͡ʃʼ kʰ k kʼ

f s ʃ h

j w


Vowels

i ĩ ɨ ɨ̃ e ẽ a ã u ũ o õ


Syllable structure

(C1)(G)V(C2)(C3)

C1: a consonant
G: a semivowel; i.e. one of /j w/
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant other than a stop or /h/; i.e. one of /m̥ m n̥ n ɲ̥ ɲ ŋ̥ ŋ f s ʃ j w/
C3: a consonant

I wouldn't like to romanise this, and as Herr Dunkel says, there's the usual huge amount of allophony.

Some sample words:

/a/ [a]
/ndaf/ [ndaf]
/fweɲ̥ŋoʃ/ [fweŋ̥ŋoʃ]
/seʃʃ/ [seʃʃ]
/jjaŋgĩ/ [jjaŋgĩ]

I like the way the different principles interact and the way there's areas of restraint (esp eg fricatives and approximants) to balance the more exotic bits. I think if I were to use this though, I'd adapt it a lot. Perhaps just CGV or CV as the max syllable size and maybe add in some Guarani-style nasal harmony to complete the emphasis on nasality.

ADDITION:
I'd quite like to see a Gleb with controllable parameters. So you could say things like "give me something with nasal vowels, simple syllables and no voiced stops". That would be a very nice tool to have. :)

User avatar
Hallow XIII
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 846
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:40 pm
Location: Under Heaven

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Hallow XIII »

Birdlang wrote:A horror story come true

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolnar Velar
Nasal ŋ
Stop p b t d k
Tap ɾ
Front Central Back
High i ɨ u
Mid-high e ɘ o
Mid-low ɛ ɜ ɔ
Low a
seriously, only one nasal. And it is eng. 7 consonants and 10 vowels.
I would not be surprised at all to find either a Polynesian or Papuan language with exactly this inventory, to be honest. This is pretty much the standard no nasal/voiced stop distinction except the voiced velar is realized invariably nasal so you write it that way.
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今,地有南北;字有更革,音有轉移,亦勢所必至。
R.Rusanov wrote:seks istiyorum
sex want-PRS-1sg
Read all about my excellent conlangs
Basic Conlanging Advice

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Hallow XIII wrote:
Birdlang wrote:A horror story come true

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolnar Velar
Nasal ŋ
Stop p b t d k
Tap ɾ
Front Central Back
High i ɨ u
Mid-high e ɘ o
Mid-low ɛ ɜ ɔ
Low a
seriously, only one nasal. And it is eng. 7 consonants and 10 vowels.
I would not be surprised at all to find either a Polynesian or Papuan language with exactly this inventory, to be honest. This is pretty much the standard no nasal/voiced stop distinction except the voiced velar is realized invariably nasal so you write it that way.
What? OK, but it was (C)V syllable structure, so I guess the nasal could be one before one set of vowels, one before another, and one before another set of vowels, maybe m, n and eng, but then the orthography would have to be allophonic.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

User avatar
Herr Dunkel
Smeric
Smeric
Posts: 1088
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:21 pm
Location: In this multiverse or another

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Herr Dunkel »

Not really?

/p b t d k ŋ/ :> [p b~m t d~n k ŋ] <p b t d k g>

The vowel inventory looks like a collapsed Marshallese thing
sano wrote:
To my dearest Darkgamma,
http://www.dazzlejunction.com/greetings/thanks/thank-you-bear.gif
Sincerely,
sano

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i u
Mid-low œˤ ɞˤ ɔˤ
Low æ a aˤ
syllable structure
(C1)(C2)(R1)V(R2)(C3)

C1: one of /m n ŋ pʰ p tʰ t kʰ k f s h ɾ ʋ/
C2: a consonant
R1: a resonant; i.e. one of /ɾ ʋ/
V: a vowel
R2: a sonorant other than /h/; i.e. one of /m n ŋ ɾ ʋ/
C3: a consonant
a word list

/ki/ [ci]
/pʰʋædɾæz/ [pʰ̪ʋ̥ædɾæz]
/t͡sihɞˤ/ [t͡sʲihɞˤ]
/dɔˤs/ [dɔˤs]
/t͡sʰæz/ [t͡sʰæz]
/tʰnu/ [tʰnu]
/ptɔˤ/ [ptɔˤ]
/hɞˤs/ [hɞˤs]
/i/
/shɞˤ/ [shɞˤ]
/tʰɞˤpʰvɔˤŋ/ [tʰɞˤb̪vɔ̃ˤŋʷ]
/gaˤkhɔˤkʰ/ [gaˤkhɔˤkʰʷ]
/thœˤdæ/ [tʲhʲœˤð̺æ]
/tænsʋis/ [tæ̃nʲsʲʋʲis]
/taˤŋsu/ [tãˤnsu]
/bæh/ [bæh]
/bɞˤnsæf/ [bɞ̃ˤnsæf]
/kʰiɾ/ [cʰiɾ]
/hu/ [hu]
/bɞˤt͡sʰɞˤ/ [bɞˤt͡sʰɞˤ]
/bumʋœˤm/ [bũɱʲʋʲœ̃ˤm]
/gæŋd/ [gæ̃nt]
/ɾɔˤ/ [ɾɔˤ]
/tɞˤŋ/ [tɞ̃ˤŋʷ]
/ɾɞˤhkʰu/ [ɾɞˤhkʰu]
/ŋɾip/ [ɲjip]
/pʰkinhɞˤ/ [pʰʲcĩnhɞˤ]
/bæbkʰɞˤn/ [bæpkʰɞ̃ˤn]
/tʰœˤʋ/ [tʰʲœˤʋ]
/umŋɔˤt͡s/ [ũŋŋɔˤt͡s]
Non-pharyngeal consonants [z ɣ ʋ̥ ...] persistently become front [zʲ ʝ ʋʲ̥ ...] before a non-low front vowel. [ɾ] become [j]; [ɾ̥] become [hʲ]. This is strange for the flaps.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Phonemic inventory

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolar Alveolar
sibilant Velar Rounded
velar Uvular Glottal
Nasal m̥ m n̥ n m' m n' n
Prenasalised stop mpʰ mb ntʰ nd nt͡sʰ nd͡z ŋkʰ ŋg ɴqʰ ɴɢ
Stop pʰ p b tʰ t d t͡sʰ t͡s d͡z kʰ k qʰ q ʔ p' p b t' t d c' c ž k g ĝ q ɂ
Fricative s z x ɣ χ ʁ h s z x ǥ ḫ r h
Approximant l ɰ w l ÿ w

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i iː u uː i ī u ū
Mid-low ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː e ē o ō
Low a aː a ā
Syllable structure

(C)V

C: a consonant
V: a vowel

Allophony

Aspirated stops [mpʰ ɴqʰ kʰ ...] persistently become unaspirated [mp ɴq k ...] before a phone except for a non-nasal vowel or approximant.
Obstruents other than [s x χ], i.e. [mpʰ ɴq qʰ ...], persistently become glottalised [mpʼ ɴqʼ qʼ ...] after a non-nasal glottal stop. Aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-velar or uvular voiced obstruents other than [z] become implosives; [z] become [ɾ]; [ɣ ʁ] are deleted; [ŋg ɴɢ] become [ʔˠ ʔˠ].
Front vowels [i iː ɛ ɛː] become central [ɨ ɨː ɜ ɜː] after a semivowel.
Non-bilabial obstruents or nasals [n̥ nɗ̰ nt͡sʼ ...] become bilabial [nʷ̥ nɗ̰ʷ nt͡sʼʷ ...] before a bilabial stop or nasal. Alveolar obstruents or nasals become non-bilabial rounded; non-alveolar fricatives are deleted.
Alveolar consonants other than [l], i.e. [n̥ tʼ nɗ͡z̰ ...], become non-nasal approximant laterals [l̥ ɗˡ ɗˡ ...] before an alveolar approximant. Implosives become non-glottalised obstruents; aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-implosive ejective stops become non-glottalised voiced obstruents.
Bilabial stops or nasals [m̥ ɴ͡mq͡pʼ k͡pʼ ...] assimilate in dorsality and uvularity and palatalisation and whether palatal or palatalised velar to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a velar obstruent, [mɓ̰ ɓ̰] become [mɓ̰ˠ ɓ̰ˠ]. Before an uvular obstruent, [mɓ̰ ɓ̰] become [mɓ̰ˠ ɓ̰ˠ].
Non-lateral non-sibilant coronal alveolar stops [ntʰ ntʼʷ d ...] persistently become sibilants [nt͡sʰ nt͡sʼʷ d͡z ...] before a non-nasal alveolar fricative.
Voiced vowels and semivowels [ɰ ɨː ɜ ...] become creaky-voiced [∅ ɨ̰ː ɜ̰ ...] before a glottal stop. Semivowels are deleted.
Stops or nasals other than [nt͡sʰ nt͡s nt͡sʼ nd͡z nt͡sʰʷ nt͡sʷ nt͡sʼʷ nd͡zʷ nɗ͡z̰ nɗ͡z̰ʷ t͡sʰ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʰʷ t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ ɗ͡z̰ ɗ͡z̰ʷ], i.e. [ŋ͡m̥ ntʼ ɢ͡b ...], become non-affricate and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a non-bilabial uvular obstruent, non-lateral implosives become ejective glottal stops. Before a bilabial stop or nasal, [ɗˡ ɗʷˡ] become non-lateral and assimilate in place of articulation. Before a non-bilabial velar or uvular obstruent, [ɗˡ ɗʷˡ] are deleted. Before a bilabial-velar stop or nasal, non-back implosives become velarised. Before a bilabial-uvular stop or nasal, non-back implosives become velarised. Before a non-bilabial velar obstruent, non-lateral implosives become ejective glottal stops.
Velar or uvular obstruents or nasals [ŋ͡m̥ ɴ͡mq͡pʼ q͡p ...] persistently assimilate in uvularity to a following velar or uvular obstruent or nasal.
High semivowels [ɰ w] become mid-high [ɤ̯ o̯] before a non-high vowel.
Obstruents other than [s sʷ zʷ x χ], i.e. [ŋ͡mk͡pʰ mɓ̰ˠ qʼ ...], persistently assimilate in glottalisation to a following non-nasal consonant other than resonant. Before a glottalised consonant, aspirated stops become unaspirated; non-implosive voiced stops other than [ŋg ɴɢ g ɢ] become implosives; [z] become [ɾ]; [ŋg ɴɢ g ɢ] become [ʔˠ ʔˠ ʔˠ ʔˠ]; bilabial-velar or uvular voiced stops become non-velar or uvular; [ɣ ʁ] are deleted.
Unaspirated stops or nasals other than implosives [ŋ͡m̥ mpˠ pˠʼ ...] assimilate in voice to a following obstruent and become voiceless word-finally. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective stops other than non-bilabial velar or uvular stops become implosives; non-bilabial velar or uvular ejective stops become voiceless glottals; bilabial-velar or uvular ejective stops become non-velar or uvular.
Non-ejective non-nasal voiced vowels and non-glottal stop non-nasal voiced consonants other than [zʷ ɾ ɤ̯ o̯], i.e. [ŋ͡mg͡b g ʁ ...], persistently become creaky-voiced [mɓ̰ˠ ʔˠ ∅ ...] before a creaky-voiced implosive. Non-implosive stops other than non-bilabial velar or uvular stops become implosives; alveolar consonants other than stops become non-glottalised; non-alveolar consonants other than stops are deleted; non-bilabial velar or uvular stops become ejective glottal stops; bilabial-velar or uvular stops become non-velar or uvular; [l lʷ] become [ɗˡ ɗʷˡ]; [z] become [ɾ].
Some words

/mbɛŋkʰa/ [mbɛŋkʰa]
/kʰiːɴqʰu/ [kʰiːɴqʰu]
/pʰuɴqʰɛː/ [pʰuɴqʰɛː]
/mpʰuːɛː/ [mpʰuːɛː]
/ɣiziː/ [ɣiziː]
/ʁɛʁɔːhuː/ [ʁɛʁɔːhuː]
/mpʰiː/ [mpʰiː]
/nd͡ziːiː/ [nd͡ziːiː]
/ʁuːmpʰi/ [ʁuːmpʰi]
/χaqu/ [χaqu]
/ɔχiː/ [ɔχiː]
/ʁumpʰɔː/ [ʁumpʰɔː]
/nduː/ [nduː]
/pʰaːiː/ [pʰaːiː]
/ŋgumpʰaː/ [ŋgumpʰaː]
/mbuːmbuŋkʰu/ [mbuːmbuŋkʰu]
/zaːʁiʁi/ [zaːʁiʁi]
/umbiː/ [umbiː]
/pʰɛmba/ [pʰɛmba]
/ɴɢiːwiː/ [ɴɢiːwɨː]
/ʁud͡zi/ [ʁud͡zi]
/d͡zuːmbu/ [d͡zuːmbu]
/ɣaːɴqʰiː/ [ɣaːɴqʰiː]
/nd͡zuːnd͡zu/ [nd͡zuːnd͡zu]
/ŋgunt͡sʰuː/ [ŋgunt͡sʰuː]
/mpʰuhu/ [mpʰuhu]
/baːɣu/ [baːɣu]
/ʁiːi/ [ʁiːi]
/mbiːd͡zaː/ [mbiːd͡zaː]
/ɴɢɔːi/ [ɴɢɔːi]
seed 2041580254.
Last edited by Birdlang on Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

I have got a gleblang before with 28 vowels, but I forgot what vowels they were.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

User avatar
Nortaneous
Sumerul
Sumerul
Posts: 4544
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:52 am
Location: the Imperial Corridor

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Nortaneous »

Herr Dunkel wrote:I know it happens, but it's kinda like Nivkh vowels. If you can make it work, all the better for you.
http://anthologi.ca/?id=215187#%28%28Gjerdou%29%29
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

User avatar
Herr Dunkel
Smeric
Smeric
Posts: 1088
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:21 pm
Location: In this multiverse or another

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Herr Dunkel »

Those do not look like dialects at all D:
Though I like the look I must admit
sano wrote:
To my dearest Darkgamma,
http://www.dazzlejunction.com/greetings/thanks/thank-you-bear.gif
Sincerely,
sano

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Herr Dunkel wrote:Not really?

/p b t d k ŋ/ :> [p b~m t d~n k ŋ] <p b t d k g>

The vowel inventory looks like a collapsed Marshallese thing
Thanks. I thought the vowels looked a little Marshallese. That is a good romanization, and I will romanize the flap as ɖ.
Last edited by Birdlang on Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Bilabial Laminal
alveolar Alveolar Postalv. Postalv. /
palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m n̻ n ɳ̻ ŋ
Stop p b t̻ d̻ t d t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g
Fricative s̻ z̻ s z ʃ ʒ h
Trill r
Tap ɾ ɽ
Approximant ɹ̻ ɹ j
/i u e o a/ vowel set
C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant other than a laminal consonant (/n̻ ɳ̻ t̻ d̻ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ s̻ z̻ ʃ ʒ ɹ̻/) or a tap (/ɾ ɽ/)
Really, what natlangs have laminal retroflex? I thought there was only subapical. Maybe Javanese has laminal retroflex?
How is a good way to romanize the laminal alveolars without underdots (that is for the retroflex)
/ʃeŋu/ [ʃeːŋu]
/iɹɾit/ [iːɹɾit]
/raɽi/ [raːɽi]
/ihos/ [ihos]
/jaji/ [jaji]
/hud̻i/ [hud̻i]
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Could be a good idea for an Akana protolang for the 2015 Relay.
Consonants
Bilabial Labiodental Alveolar Laminal
retroflex Pal. /
vel. Uvular
Nasal m ɱ n ɳ̻ ŋ ɴ
Stop p pʼ b ɓ̰ p̪ p̪ʼ b̪ ɓ̰̪ t tʼ d ɗ̰ ʈ͡ʂ̻ ʈ͡ʂʼ̻ ɖ͡ʐ̻ ɗ̢̰̻ k kʼ g q qʼ
Fricative s z ʂ̻ ʐ̻
Approximant l ʎ

Vowels
Front Central Back
Near-high ɲ̩ ŋ̩ maybe you can change the syllabic nasals if this becomes an Akana relay protolang into vowels
High i u
Low a ã
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)(C3)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant other than a non-implosive non-labial voiced obstruent (/d g ɖ͡ʐ̻ z ʐ̻/)
C3: one of /n ɗ̰ s l/
Allophony

Vowels and dorsal consonants other than lax vowels or , i.e. [ŋ kʼ qʼ ...], persistently assimilate in highness or uvularity to a following non-low vowel or stop or nasal. Before an uvular stop or nasal, [ʎ] become [e̯]; [ɲ̩] become [ɴ̩].
Vowels and dorsal stops or nasals [ŋ kʼ ɢ ...] become rounded [ŋʷ kʼʷ ɢʷ ...] before a labial stop or nasal.
[a] become [ã] before a nasal phone.
Voiced vowels and semivowels [u ã a ...] persistently become creaky-voiced [ṵ ã̰ a̰ ...] after a creaky-voiced implosive. [e̯] become [qʼ].
Non-implosive obstruents other than [s ʂ̻], i.e. [p d ɢ ...], assimilate in glottalisation to a following obstruent and become non-glottalised word-finally. Before a glottalised stop, voiced stops become ejective; obstruents other than stops become non-sibilant coronal implosives.
Coronal consonants [n ɗ̰ s ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant.
Non-sibilant coronal coronal nasals [n̻ n ɳ̻ ɳ] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent.
Front vowels and semivowels [e̯ i ḭ] become non-front [∅ ɨ ɨ̰] after a retroflex obstruent or nasal. [e̯] are deleted.
Coronal consonants [n̻ ɗ̰̻ s̻ ...] assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following obstruent sibilant.
Uvular consonants [ɴ qʼ qʼʷ ...] become palatal or velar [ŋ kʼ kʼʷ ...] after a high vowel.
Non-pharyngeal non-retroflex non-front consonants other than uvular consonants [m tʼ̻ ɗ̰̻ ...] become front [mʲ ʈ͡ʂʼ̻ ɗ̢̰̻ ...] after a front approximant except for a semivowel. Non-lateral alveolar obstruents or nasals become non-front retroflex; apical consonants other than [l] become laminal; non-sibilant coronal non-implosive stops become affricate sibilants; rounded stops or nasals become unrounded; approximant laterals become non-coronal dorsal.
Non-glottalised obstruents [p ʈ t͡s ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent.
Back vowels [u ṵ] become central [ɨ ɨ̰] after a front semivowel.
Some words

/ʂ̻ukŋ̩/ [ʂ̻ukŋ̩]
/p̪iʎŋ̩qʼ/ [p̪ijɴ̩q]
/babi/ [babi]
/as/ [as]
/ɖ͡ʐ̻ussã/ [ɖ͡ʐ̻ussã]
/ŋ̩ʈ͡ʂ̻ʈ͡ʂ̻ub/ [ŋ̩ʈ͡ʂ̻ʈ͡ʂ̻ub]
/p̪ʼatʼssuʂ̻/ [p̪ʼatssuʂ̻]
/pʼaʂ̻i/ [pʼaʂ̻ɨ]
/kãʎu/ [kãʎu]
/qŋ̩piɱ/ [kŋ̩ʷpiɱ]
/lulu/ [lulu]
/kubuʈ͡ʂ̻/ [kubuʈ͡ʂ̻]
/askã/ [askã]
/b̪aqʂ̻up̪/ [b̪aqʂ̻up̪]
/qasŋ̩/ [qasŋ̩]
/tʼãnpaʂ̻/ [tʼãmpaʂ̻]
/ʂ̻iʈ͡ʂʼ̻aʈ͡ʂ̻/ [ʂ̻ɨʈ͡ʂʼ̻aʈ͡ʂ̻]
/tʼuq/ [tʼuk]
/tʼɲ̩ku/ [tʼɲ̩ku]
/tʼu/ [tʼu]
/p̪ãku/ [p̪ãku]
/pispã/ [pispã]
/ʈ͡ʂ̻as/ [ʈ͡ʂ̻as]
/pʼãmã/ [pʼãmã]
/pap̪ŋ̩s/ [pap̪ŋ̩s]
/ʎa/ [ʎa]
/pʼãʈ͡ʂ̻itʼ/ [pʼãʈ͡ʂ̻ɨt]
/kaɳ̻ŋ̩/ [kãɳ̻ŋ̩]
/ʎuʂ̻ʎu/ [ʎuʂ̻ʎu]
/ʂ̻ap̪ʼaq/ [ʂ̻ap̪ʼaq]
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

User avatar
ivazaéun
Sanci
Sanci
Posts: 55
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:14 pm

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by ivazaéun »

From 2038383709:

ŋ͡ɱg͡ɣ͡b͡v

A prenasalised labiodental-velar co-articulated affricate thing.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Front Back
High i
Mid-high e
Low ɑ ɒ
Seed 2037284522.
Online version
strangest vowel set.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

seed 2070447165. No nasals, also, tense and lax e/i/o/u.
seed 2070578256. pharyngealized labial-velars.
seed 2070643605. 7 nasals.
seed 2070151981. ejective voiceless palatized alveolopalatal fricative
Seed 2070282936. ɰ̥ ʀ as a voiceless voiced pair.
seed 2069987895. no nasals, and nasalized vowels.
Phonemic inventory

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolar Palatal Velar
Nasal m n ɲ ŋ m n ñ ń
Stop p t c k p t c k
Fricative s ç x s ś h
Approximant l j w l j w

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i ɨ u ī i u
Mid-low ɛ œ ʌ ɔ e ö ü o
Low ɑ ɒ a å
Syllable structure
14 consonants and 9 vowels, whoa, I wasn't expecting large amount of vowels with small amount of consonants
(C1)V(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant

Allophony

Back vowels and semivowels [w ʌ ɑ ...] persistently become non-back [w̟ ɜ a ...] before a non-retroflexed alveolar consonant. [ɒ] become [a].
Back vowels and semivowels [w ʌ ɑ ...] become central [w̟ ɜ a ...] before a palatal semivowel. [ɒ] become [a].
Non-nasal sonorants [l j w̟ w] persistently become voiceless [l̥ j̥ w̟̥ w̥] before a non-nasal consonant except for an approximant.
Short non-glottal stop non-glottal fricative voiceless fricatives [s ç x] become voiced [z ʝ ɣ] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
Consonants [m k l̥ ...] assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent or nasal.
Non-pharyngeal unrounded non-palatal consonants [m̥ p s ...] become front [mʲ̥ pʲ sʲ ...] after a palatal consonant except for a semivowel.
Non-pharyngeal front consonants other than [j̥ j], i.e. [mʲ̥ pʲ sʲ ...], persistently become non-front [m̥ p s ...] before a consonant.
Nasals [m̥ n̥ ɲ ...] persistently become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Some words

/xulʌt/ [xʉlɜt]
/sɛmsu/ [sɛnzu]
/nɔsɛ/ [nɞzɛ]
/tɛki/ [tɛki]
/ŋʌwsi/ [ŋʌw̟̥si]
/numi/ [numi]
/xɛsʌ/ [xɛzʌ]
/lɛpʌn/ [lɛpɜn]
/ʌpɛ/ [ʌpɛ]
/lɑkʌ/ [lɑkʌ]
/wɛxɔt/ [wɛɣɞt]
/kuxi/ [kuɣi]
/çulu/ [çʉlu]
/liŋu/ [liŋu]
/wʌwu/ [wʌwu]
/sɔɛsʌ/ [sɔɛzʌ]
/ʌ/ [ʌ]
/wui/ [wui]
/sɛu/ [sɛu]
/xɛlœ/ [xɛlœ]
/wʌmɑ/ [wʌmɑ]
/ŋɛxɒ/ [ŋɛɣɒ]
/wɨxɒt/ [wɨɣat]
/sutœ/ [sʉtœ]
/pinil/ [pinil]
/kɛswin/ [kɛzwin]
/xœnɨ/ [xœnɨ]
/œwœx/ [œwœx]
/ŋœɛ/ [ŋœɛ]
/mʌwçɒ/ [mʌw̥çɒ]
Generated by Gleb version 0.3.1a / 5.0a with seed 2070053467.

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolar Palatoalv.
sibilant /
palatal Velar
Nasal m m
Stop p t t͡ʃ k p t č k
Trill r r
Resonant ɾ j w l j ł
Front Central Back
High i u i u
Low a a
Plant alien language
(C)V

C: a consonant
V: a vowel
I know, no fricatives, but affricates.
Labial Alveolar Alveolar
sibilant Palatoalv.
sibilant /
palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m n ɲ m n ñ
Stop p b t d k p b t d k
Affricate d͡ð̺ t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ ḓ c z č ž
Fricative f s ʃ h s š h
Resonant ɾ ɰ r l

Vowels
Front Back
High i u i u
Mid-low ɛ ɔ e o
Low ɑ a
seed 2068840611.
every one of these languages so far is OK
all are done on the online gleb because I cannot seem to use the GitHub gleb.
Phonemic inventory

Consonants
Labial Alveolar Alveolar
sibilant Retroflex Retroflex
sibilant Palatoalv. Palatoalv.
sibilant Palatalised
alveopal.
sibilant Vel. /
uvul. Rounded
uvular
Nasal m n ɳ ŋ m n ń ñ
Stop p pʼ b t tʼ d t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z ʈ ʈʼ ɖ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ k kʼ p ṗ b t ṫ d c ç ż ṭ ṯ ḍ č č' dž k g
Fricative f v θ̺ ð̺ s z ʂ ʐ ʃ ʒ ɕ f v þ ð s z š ž ś
Resonant l ɭ ɾ̱ ʀ̆ ʀ̆ʷ l ł r ř ŗ

Vowels written as in IPA.
Front Central Back
High i ɨ u
Mid-high e o
Mid-low ɛ ɔ
Low a
Syllable structure

(C1)V(R)(C2)

C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
R: a sonorant; i.e. one of /m n ɳ ŋ ɾ̱ ʀ̆ ʀ̆ʷ l ɭ/
C2: one of /m n ŋ p pʼ b t tʼ d k kʼ f v s z ɕ ʀ̆ ʀ̆ʷ l/

Allophony

Obstruents [p k v ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a voiced obstruent or nasal, ejective stops become non-ejective.
Non-labial consonants [n g ʂ ...] persistently assimilate in rounding to a following consonant.
Labial obstruents or nasals [m pʼ f ...] assimilate in labiodentality to a following labial obstruent or nasal.
Non-ejective non-nasal resonants [ɾ̱ ʀ̆ lʷ ...] become voiceless [ɾ̱̥ ʀ̥̆ lʷ̥ ...] after a voiceless obstruent.
Obstruents or nasals other than [ŋ ŋʷ k kʼ g kʷ kʼʷ gʷ], i.e. [m ɖ θ̺ ...], assimilate in dorsality and uvularity and palatalisation and whether palatal or palatalised velar to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a velar stop or nasal, obstruents or nasals become velarised; labiodental stops or nasals become bilabial; [ɸ β] become [fˠ vˠ].
Stops or nasals [m d t͡sʼ ...] persistently become non-affricate and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a non-lateral non-back retroflex obstruent or nasal, affricate sibilants become affricates and assimilate in rounding. Before a laminal obstruent, stops other than affricate sibilants become affricates and assimilate in palatalisation and rounding; non-sibilant coronal stops become sibilants and assimilate in palatalisation and rounding. Before a non-lateral unrounded alveolar obstruent or nasal, [t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ t͡sʲ t͡sʼʲ d͡zʲ t͡sʲʷ t͡sʼʲʷ d͡zʲʷ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ʃˠ t͡ʃˠʼ d͡ʒˠ t͡ʃˠʷ t͡ʃˠʼʷ d͡ʒˠʷ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʷ t͡ɕʼʷ d͡ʑʷ] become affricates and assimilate in palatalisation. Before an unrounded postalveolar velarised obstruent or nasal, [t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ t͡sʲ t͡sʼʲ d͡zʲ t͡sʲʷ t͡sʼʲʷ d͡zʲʷ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ʃˠʷ t͡ʃˠʼʷ d͡ʒˠʷ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʷ t͡ɕʼʷ d͡ʑʷ] become affricates and assimilate in place of articulation. Before a coronal velarised rounded obstruent or nasal, [t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ t͡sʲ t͡sʼʲ d͡zʲ t͡sʲʷ t͡sʼʲʷ d͡zʲʷ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃʷ t͡ʃʼʷ d͡ʒʷ t͡ʃˠ t͡ʃˠʼ d͡ʒˠ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʷ t͡ɕʼʷ d͡ʑʷ] become affricates and assimilate in place of articulation. Before a non-back unrounded laminal obstruent, affricate sibilants become affricates and assimilate in palatalisation. Before a non-retroflex non-back rounded obstruent or nasal, [t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ t͡sʲ t͡sʼʲ d͡zʲ t͡sʲʷ t͡sʼʲʷ d͡zʲʷ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ t͡ʃˠ t͡ʃˠʼ d͡ʒˠ t͡ʃˠʷ t͡ʃˠʼʷ d͡ʒˠʷ t͡ɕ t͡ɕʼ d͡ʑ t͡ɕʷ t͡ɕʼʷ d͡ʑʷ] become affricates and assimilate in anteriority and laminality and palatalisation.
Obstruents [p kʼʷ ɸʲ ...] become nasals [m ŋʷ mʲ ...] before a nasal. Voiceless obstruents become voiced; obstruents other than stops become nasals; affricates become non-sibilant coronal nasals; ejective stops become non-ejective; obstruent sibilants other than stops become non-sibilant coronal; labiodental obstruents other than stops become bilabial.
Vowels [i u ɛ ...] become retroflex [ɨ˞ ɨ˞ ɜ˞ ...] before a retroflex consonant. Back vowels become unrounded central; front vowels become central.
Coronal consonants [n t͡sʼʷ θ̺ˠʷ ...] assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a preceding coronal consonant. After a postalveolar consonant, non-sibilant coronal fricatives become sibilants and assimilate in retroflexion. After a retroflex consonant, palatalised obstruents or nasals become non-palatalised. After a laminal consonant, [ɳ ɳʷ ɳˠ ɳˠʷ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ ʈʷ ʈʼʷ ɖʷ ʈˠ ʈˠʼ ɖˠ ʈˠʷ ʈˠʼʷ ɖˠʷ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʷ ʈ͡ʂʼʷ ɖ͡ʐʷ ʈ͡ʂˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʼ ɖ͡ʐˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʷ ʈ͡ʂˠʼʷ ɖ͡ʐˠʷ θ̺ ð̺ θ̺ʷ ð̺ʷ θ̺ˠ ð̺ˠ θ̺ˠʷ ð̺ˠʷ θ̺ʲ ð̺ʲ θ̺ʲʷ ð̺ʲʷ ʂ ʐ ʂʷ ʐʷ ʂˠ ʐˠ ʂˠʷ ʐˠʷ ɭ̥ ɭ ɭʷ̥ ɭʷ] become [n nʷ nˠ nˠʷ t tʼ d tʷ tʼʷ dʷ tˠ tˠʼ dˠ tˠʷ tˠʼʷ dˠʷ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ sʲ zʲ sʲʷ zʲʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ l̥ l lʷ̥ lʷ].
Non-pharyngeal consonants other than uvular resonants or [ɳ̻ ɳʷ̻ ɳ ɳʷ ŋʷ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ ʈʷ ʈʼʷ ɖʷ ʈ͡ʂ̻ ʈ͡ʂʼ̻ ɖ͡ʐ̻ ʈ͡ʂʷ̻ ʈ͡ʂʼʷ̻ ɖ͡ʐʷ̻ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʷ ʈ͡ʂʼʷ ɖ͡ʐʷ ʂ̻ ʐ̻ ʂʷ̻ ʐʷ̻ ʂ ʐ ʂʷ ʐʷ ɽ̻̥ ɽ̻ ɽʷ̻̥ ɽʷ̻ ɭ̥ ɭ ɭʷ̥ ɭʷ], i.e. [m g f ...], assimilate in palatalisation to a following consonant. Before a palatalised obstruent or nasal, retroflex obstruents or nasals become non-front; velar stops or nasals other than [ŋ] become coronal palatalised affricates.
Palatal nasals [ɲ] persistently become alveopalatal [ṉʲ] before a palatoalveolar obstruent or nasal.
[ɨ a] become [ɯ ɑ] before an uvular tap.
Coronal consonants [n̻ d͡z ð̺ˠʷ ...] persistently assimilate in laminality to a following coronal consonant. Before an apical consonant, palatoalveolar consonants become alveolar.
[ŋ k kʼ g kʷ kʼʷ gʷ] become palatal before a front high vowel. Stops or nasals other than [ŋ] become coronal palatalised affricates.
Coronal consonants [n̻ t͡sʲ̻ ð̺ʲ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following non-labial fricative. Before a postalveolar fricative, non-sibilant coronal fricatives become sibilants and assimilate in retroflexion. Before a retroflex fricative, palatalised consonants become non-front. Before a palatoalveolar fricative, [ɳ ɳʷ ɳˠ ɳˠʷ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ ʈʷ ʈʼʷ ɖʷ ʈˠ ʈˠʼ ɖˠ ʈˠʷ ʈˠʼʷ ɖˠʷ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʷ ʈ͡ʂʼʷ ɖ͡ʐʷ ʈ͡ʂˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʼ ɖ͡ʐˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʷ ʈ͡ʂˠʼʷ ɖ͡ʐˠʷ θ̺ ð̺ θ̺ʷ ð̺ʷ θ̺ˠ ð̺ˠ θ̺ˠʷ ð̺ˠʷ θ̺ʲ ð̺ʲ θ̺ʲʷ ð̺ʲʷ ʂ ʐ ʂʷ ʐʷ ʂˠ ʐˠ ʂˠʷ ʐˠʷ ɽ̥ ɽ ɽʷ̥ ɽʷ ɭ̥ ɭ ɭʷ̥ ɭʷ] become [n nʷ nˠ nˠʷ t tʼ d tʷ tʼʷ dʷ tˠ tˠʼ dˠ tˠʷ tˠʼʷ dˠʷ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ sʲ zʲ sʲʷ zʲʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ ɾ̥ ɾ ɾʷ̥ ɾʷ l̥ l lʷ̥ lʷ]; non-affricate laminal stops become affricate sibilants.
Coronal consonants [n̻ t͡sʲʷ̻ sʷ ...] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following non-labial obstruent other than non-affricate stop or nasal. Before a postalveolar obstruent sibilant, non-sibilant coronal fricatives become sibilants and assimilate in retroflexion. Before a retroflex obstruent sibilant, palatalised consonants become non-front. Before a palatoalveolar obstruent sibilant, [ɳ ɳʷ ɳˠ ɳˠʷ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ ʈʷ ʈʼʷ ɖʷ ʈˠ ʈˠʼ ɖˠ ʈˠʷ ʈˠʼʷ ɖˠʷ ʈ͡ʂ ʈ͡ʂʼ ɖ͡ʐ ʈ͡ʂʷ ʈ͡ʂʼʷ ɖ͡ʐʷ ʈ͡ʂˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʼ ɖ͡ʐˠ ʈ͡ʂˠʷ ʈ͡ʂˠʼʷ ɖ͡ʐˠʷ θ̺ ð̺ θ̺ʷ ð̺ʷ θ̺ˠ ð̺ˠ θ̺ˠʷ ð̺ˠʷ θ̺ʲ ð̺ʲ θ̺ʲʷ ð̺ʲʷ ʂ ʐ ʂʷ ʐʷ ʂˠ ʐˠ ʂˠʷ ʐˠʷ ɽ̥ ɽ ɽʷ̥ ɽʷ ɭ̥ ɭ ɭʷ̥ ɭʷ] become [n nʷ nˠ nˠʷ t tʼ d tʷ tʼʷ dʷ tˠ tˠʼ dˠ tˠʷ tˠʼʷ dˠʷ t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡sʷ t͡sʼʷ d͡zʷ t͡sˠ t͡sˠʼ d͡zˠ t͡sˠʷ t͡sˠʼʷ d͡zˠʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ sʲ zʲ sʲʷ zʲʷ s z sʷ zʷ sˠ zˠ sˠʷ zˠʷ ɾ̥ ɾ ɾʷ̥ ɾʷ l̥ l lʷ̥ lʷ]; non-affricate laminal stops become affricate sibilants.
Front vowels [i e ɛ] become non-front [ɨ ɘ ɜ] before a retroflex vowel or a retroflexed consonant.
Ejective stops [pʼ ʈʼ̻ t͡sˠʼ ...] become non-ejective [p ʈ̻ t͡sˠ ...] before a non-nasal phone except for a non-nasal vowel or resonant.
Front vowels [i e ɛ] become central [ɨ ɘ ɜ] after a velarised obstruent or nasal.
Non-retroflex coronal consonants [n̻ t͡s s ...] become retroflex [ɳ̻ ʈ͡ʂ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant. Palatalised consonants become non-front; non-sibilant coronal fricatives become sibilants.
Voiceless stops [p ʈ̻ t͡sˠ ...] assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding obstruent.
Some words

/ʀ̆uʀ̆fi/ [ʀ̆uʀ̆fi]
/pɛʀ̆ed/ [pɛʀ̆ed]
/nad/ [nad]
/o/ [o]
/mat/ [mat]
/vel/ [vel]
/tɛkʼbi/ [tɛbbi]
/ŋɔt͡suŋ/ [ŋɔt͡suŋ]
/ʀ̆ʷik/ [ʀ̆ʷik]
/pɛŋŋu/ [pɛŋŋu]
/ʈiŋat/ [ʈiŋat]
/θ̺uɕpaŋ/ [θ̺uʃpaŋ]
/ɳiʀ̆ʷɔ/ [ɳiʀ̆ʷɔ]
/ʒiŋɔ/ [ʒiŋɔ]
/ɾ̱eŋt͡ʃʼut/ [ɾ̱eṉt͡ʃʼut]
/tu/ [tu]
/kama/ [kama]
/ɳummi/ [ɳummi]
/ð̺e/ [ð̺e]
/t͡ʃu/ [t͡ʃu]
/man/ [man]
/ɭi/ [ɭi]
/puŋpʼi/ [pumpʼi]
/kʼinbʈʼɔn/ [kʼɨ˞ɳʈʈɔn]
/ɛmmi/ [ɛmmi]
/ʈʼa/ [ʈʼa]
/bi/ [bi]
/ŋɔk/ [ŋɔk]
/milpʼan/ [milpʼan]
/ʀ̆ʷam/ [ʀ̆ʷam]
Generated by Gleb version 0.3.1a / 5.0a with seed 2068987785.
Whoa, 2 uvular flaps, and gleb seems to think they are common.
Front Back
High i iː u uː i ī u ū
Mid-low ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː e ē o ō
seed 2069085991. Arapaho vowels.
Consonants
Bilabial Alveolar Palatalised
coronal /
palatal Velar
Nasal m n nʲ m n ṅ
Stop p b t d t͡ɕ d͡ʑ k g p b t d ṫ ḋ k g
Fricative ɸ s ɕ f s ṡ
Approximant l j l j

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i ʉ u i ȯ u
Mid-low ɛ ɞ ɔ e ȧ o
Low a a
I know, the only diacritic is the dot above
seed 2068790805.
seed 2068102135. [w] persistently become [ŋ̟] after a palatal semivowel.

Consonants
Bilabial Alveolar Vel. /
uvul. Glottal
Nasal m̤ m m̰ n̤ n n̰ m n
Stop pʰ p b̤ b b̰ tʰ t d̤ d d̰ kʰ k g̤ g g̰ ʔ p b t d k g j
Trill r r̰ ʀ ʀ̰ r ŗ
Approximant l l̰ w w̰ l ł

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i i̤ ḭ iː i̤ː ḭː ĩ ĩ̤ ḭ̃ ĩː ĩ̤ː ḭ̃ː i ī u ṳ ṵ uː ṳː ṵː ũ ṳ̃ ṵ̃ ũː ṳ̃ː ṵ̃ː u ū
Mid-high e e̤ ḛ eː e̤ː ḛː ẽ ẽ̤ ḛ̃ ẽː ẽ̤ː ḛ̃ː e ē o o̤ o̰ oː o̤ː o̰ː õ õ̤ õ̰ õː õ̤ː õ̰ː o ō
Low a a̤ a̰ aː a̤ː a̰ː ã ã̤ ã̰ ãː ã̤ː ã̰ː a ā 33 consonants and 62 vowels!!! Nasalized vowels have a tilde, breathy voiced vowels have an underline, creaky voiced vowels have a comma above, same with breathy voiced and aspirated consonants and creaky voiced consonants.



Consonants
Labial Laminal
alveolar Laminal
alveolar
sibilant Pal. /
vel. Glottal
Nasal m n̻
Stop p pʼ b t̻ tʼ̻ d̻ k kʼ g ʔ
Affricate t͡θ t͡θʼ d͡ð t͡s̻ t͡sʼ̻ d͡z̻ k͡x k͡xʼ g͡ɣ
Fricative f θ s̻ h
Approximant l̻ j

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i u
Mid-high e o
Low a
Plus 24 diphthongs I made myself
ao eo io uo ae ie oe ue au eu iu ou au ue ui uo ai ei oi ui
Make it a Pseudo-something orthography like Nort's Arve, I will make a Pseudo Georgian transcription romanization and a script with modifiers for ejectivity, and you'll be happy with a lot of consonant clusters (what I feel like doing, even though it is a (C)V language).I will call this Tvarchii (matT_>io)
seed 1689781910. make this a protolang, change final h into long vowel.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

User avatar
Pogostick Man
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 894
Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:21 pm
Location: Ohio

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Pogostick Man »

Having nasalized vowels without phonemic nasals is actually not all that weird, provided there's some allophony going on such as voiced stops becoming nasals before a nasal vowel. I can't remember the name but I'm pretty sure at least one South American language does exactly that.
(Avatar via Happy Wheels Wiki)
Index Diachronica PDF v.10.2
Conworld megathread

AVDIO · VIDEO · DISCO

User avatar
Hallow XIII
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 846
Joined: Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:40 pm
Location: Under Heaven

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Hallow XIII »

It's quite common in the Amazon, yes.
陳第 wrote:蓋時有古今,地有南北;字有更革,音有轉移,亦勢所必至。
R.Rusanov wrote:seks istiyorum
sex want-PRS-1sg
Read all about my excellent conlangs
Basic Conlanging Advice

vokzhen
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 352
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2014 3:43 pm
Location: Iowa

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by vokzhen »

Guarani does it. The voiced (prenasalized) stops, approximants, and rhotic all nasalize next before nasal vowels.

Birdlang
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 427
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:34 am
Location: Virginia

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Birdlang »

Consonants
Labial Laminal
alveolar Laminal
alveolar
sibilant Retroflex Retroflex
sibilant Palatoalv.
sibilant /
palatal Velar
Stop b t̻ d̻ d͡z̻ ʈ ɖ ɖ͡ʐ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g
Fricative f s̻ ʂ ʃ
Approximant ɹ̻ ɻ j
seed 1710348533.

Consonants
Labial Laminal
alveolar Palatoalv.
sibilant Velar Rounded
velar Velar
lateral Uvular Glottal
Nasal m n̻ ŋ ɴ
Stop b t̻ d̻ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ k g q ɢ
Fricative f s̻ z̻ ʃ ʒ xˡ h
Approximant ɹ̻ ɰ w ʟ the velar lateral fricative will be romanized as in Melpa
seed 1710250086.

Vowels
Front Back
Mid-low ɴ̩ ɴ̩ʷ
Mid-high e ø o
Mid-low ɛ œ ɔ
Low ɑ ɑ̃
Generated by Gleb version 0.3.1a / 5.0a with seed 1710119379. Weird vowel set

Consonants
Labial Alveolar Velar Pharyng.
velar Uvular Pharyng.
uvular Pharyngeal
Nasal m̥ m n̥ n
Stop pʰ p pʼ b tʰ t tʼ d kʰ k kʼ g kʰˤ kˤ kʼˤ gˤ qʰ q qʼ ɢ qʰˤ qˤ qʼˤ ɢˤ
Fricative f s x xˤ χ χˤ ħ ʕ
Approximant l w

Generated by Gleb version 0.3.1a / 5.0a with seed 1709562204.

Consonants
Bilabial Laminal
alveolar Laminal
alveolar
sibilant Retroflex Retroflex
sibilant Palatoalv. Palatoalv.
sibilant /
palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m̥ m n̻̥ n̻ ɳ̥ ɳ
Stop pʰ p b ɓ̰ tʰ̻ t̻ d̻ ɗ̰̻ t͡sʰ̻ t͡s̻ d͡z̻ ɗ͡z̰̻ ʈʰ ʈ ɖ ɗ̢̰ ɗ̱̰ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ kʰ k kʼ g
Fricative θ s̻ ʂ ʃ h
Trill r̻ r̢
Tap ɾ̻ ɽ
Approximant l̻ ɭ j w
Stop pʰ p b tʰ t d t͡ɬʰ t͡ɬ d͡ɮ t͡sʰ t͡s d͡z kʰ k k͡pʰ k͡p
Almost a Pomo clone in the stops.
Hello there. Chirp chirp chirp.

----
Smeric
Smeric
Posts: 1418
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:15 pm

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by ---- »

Birdlang if you're going to post in this thread 50 times every day the least you could do is put some effort into decently formatting them.

Aili Meilani
Lebom
Lebom
Posts: 144
Joined: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:21 pm

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Aili Meilani »

Why has this thread become Birdlang posting every single thing they get out of Gleb?

User avatar
ObsequiousNewt
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 434
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:05 pm
Location: /ˈaɪ̯əwʌ/

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by ObsequiousNewt »

Birdlang, if you must post every detail of every lang you get, would you please at least put them in
More: show
tags?


Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.

User avatar
ObsequiousNewt
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 434
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:05 pm
Location: /ˈaɪ̯əwʌ/

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by ObsequiousNewt »

1739040695 has the following four allophonic rules:
  • Prenasalised stops [ŋ͡mg͡b mb nd ŋg] become non-prenasalised [g͡b b d g] after an obstruent.
  • Prenasalised stops [ŋ͡mg͡b mb nd ŋg] become non-prenasalised [g͡b b d g] after an obstruent.
  • Prenasalised stops [ŋ͡mg͡b mb nd ŋg] become non-prenasalised [g͡b b d g] after an obstruent.
  • Non-pharyngeal consonants [z ŋg ŋ͡mg͡b ...] persistently become front [zʲ ɲɟ ɲ͡mɟ͡b ...] before a palatal consonant.
The last one is interesting because there are neither pharyngeal(ized) consonants nor pharyngealizing allophone rules in that seed.


Ο ορανς τα ανα̨ριθομον ϝερρον εͱεν ανθροποτροφον.
Το̨ ανθροπς αυ̨τ εκψον επ αθο̨ οραναμο̨ϝον.
Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν. Θαιν.

User avatar
Matrix
Avisaru
Avisaru
Posts: 722
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:15 pm

Re: The glebst of Gleb

Post by Matrix »

ObsequiousNewt wrote:ŋ͡mg͡b
what is even

how do you

what
Image

Adúljôžal ônal kol ví éža únah kex yaxlr gmlĥ hôga jô ônal kru ansu frú.
Ansu frú ônal savel zaš gmlĥ a vek Adúljôžal vé jaga čaþ kex.
Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh. Ônal zeh.

Post Reply