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ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:47 am
by k1234567890y
This is basically a thread that helps you find inspirations to expand the vocabulary of your conlangs, especially if you are creating an a priori conlang, this idea is originally suggested in this CBB thread:
http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2997 . Thanks Prinsessa of CBB for suggesting this kind of idea!
How to play: person A suggests a word, with its meaning and word class in his or her conlang, then person B copies the word into his or her conlang and adjusts the pronunciation to fit the phonology of the conlang of person B. The meaning of the word might be adjusted as well.
For example:
person A wrote:
didnozsawr /didnoz'sɑwr/ adj. be bureaucratic
person B wrote:
person A wrote:
didnozsawr /didnoz'sɑwr/ adj. be bureaucratic
Lonmai Luna:
dinosaur /dinosáur/
adj. be bureaucratic
Next:
opon /opón/
v. to control
If you have known how to play, then let's start:
opon /opón/
v. to control
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:00 am
by Matrix
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=35267
In fact, you've even posted in that thread, How the hell did you forget that?
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:20 am
by k1234567890y
apparently you misunderstood the difference between the rules here...
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:20 am
by schyrsivochter
k1234567890y wrote:Next: opon /opón/ v. to control
What does the acute mean? Stress accent? Or indeed high tone?
Anyway, here’s my adaptation (No. 4):
öpfön [op͡fˈon] v.
to control
Next: djịnc [d͡ʑɪnʃ]
(piece of) music, tune
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:06 pm
by CatDoom
Oh cool, I always thought this was a neat idea!
For Yewedu:
ǰîš /dʒi̤ːʃ/ noun (class VIII) song, music
Declension:
Nominative: ǰîš
Accusative: ǰîšu
Genitive: ǰîše
Dative: ǰîšû
Locative: ǰîšut
Instrumental: ǰîšesà
Comitative: ǰîšeš
Benefactive: ǰîšeke
Next: zisk [tsɪsk] knife
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:39 pm
by schyrsivochter
Adapted into No. 4:
tcịsk [t͡ɕɪsk] knife, dagger, sword or any blade weapon
‘Reverse’ sound change to No. 1 (actually I looked for a No. 1 word that would transform into something that fits [t͡sisk]):
tsgsk [tsŋsk] (same meaning)
And no, I’m not going to give you a declension. (Unless you ask nicely.)
Next: rubwasd [ˈʁɔʊ̯.b͡vəst] to serve so.
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:13 pm
by CatDoom
Just for fun, I've thought a bit about the etymology of ǰîš. In Wendoth, an ancestor of Yewedu and a family of sister languages, it could have taken a number of forms, since most polysyllabic words basically lost their whole first syllable as a result of a series of sound changes. Let's say the Wendoth form is įgaic [ḭgʲa̤i̯xʲ] in the nominative and įgaice- before suffixes beginning in a consonant. Going back a step further, that would make the "pre-Wendoth" form ʔVgeɦVxi, where the unknown vowels could have been any of /a/, /e/, or /i/.
Anyway, back on topic, here's a word for ʔuulhemoo, part of Akana's Western language family. The structure is a little unusual, but it could possibly be a loanword or an old, eroded compound.
rụụvst [ɹʊːʋst] monotransitive verb to serve, to obey, to work for
Next: gangle [ˈgɑŋlə] - to be confident, to have confidence
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:30 am
by schyrsivochter
CatDoom wrote:rụụvst [ɹʊːʋst]
You use ụ for /ʊ/! I’m doing that, too, in No. 4! o:
CatDoom wrote:Next: gangle [ˈgɑŋlə] - to be confident, to have confidence
Adapted into No. 1:
kagl [kaŋl]
a confident, optimistic
In No. 4:
gǫq [gɔɑ̯ŋ] brave, courageous
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:29 pm
by Nortaneous
Amqoli: xamni [xaˈ(m)ɲi] be brave, be courageous
nonreducing inverse-infix deuterotonic, basic conjugation (C)x(a/e)mni(C)
Next: obzh [obʒ] swamp
i-stem uncountable, declension:
Direct: obzh
Genitive: obzhim
Instrumental: obzhe (arch. obe)
Locative: obzhe
Partitive: obzhi
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:05 pm
by opipik
Next: obzh [obʒ] swamp
Given the phonology of my language I can borrow it as <obž> [obʒ], but that would be obvious.
<
omɨš> [omɨʃ]
n swamp
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Next:
<
kañhi> [kɑɲᶨʱi]
n human
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:26 pm
by schyrsivochter
opipik wrote:<kañhi> [kɑɲᶨʱi] n human
No. 1:
kany [kɑnç]
n person
→ No. 4:
gǫnı [ˈgɔɑ̯.ni]
n person
Next: No. 4
djin [d͡ʑɛɪ̯n]
v to intend, to plan (not auxiliary, there’s a special one for that)
Conjugation:
Singular
1. djinc [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯nʃ]
2. djinịl [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɪl]
3. djinle [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯n.le]
4. djinaf [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nəf]
Paucal
1. djinir [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɛɪ̯χ]
2. djinịq [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɪŋ]
3. djinz [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯ns]
4. djins [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯ns]
Plural
1. djinre [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯n.ʁe]
2. djinịld [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɪlt]
3. djinịc [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɪʃ]
4. djinịs [ˈd͡ʑɛɪ̯.nɪs]
(If you want to know what ‘4th person’ means, ask me.)
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:13 pm
by Nortaneous
dzara [ˈdzara] / 'intend, plan'
reducing inverse-infix prototonic; var. handzara [haˈndzara]
takes either the perfective infinitive or the verbal noun depending on aspect: zha ndra storex dzrats "I'm going to go to the store" vs. zha prajekätem dzgam ljqo dzertsä "I keep meaning to finish this project"
next: shxi [ʃxɨ] 'fuck'
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:51 pm
by 2+3 clusivity
shxi [ʃxɨ] "fuck" (I assume this is not just a generic expletive) -> TEST/i=.̍skʰɨ-mi/ [i. ̍ʃkʟ̝̊ʰɨ-mʲ] "here, I copulate" or /u=. ̍skʰɨ-mi/ [u. ̍ʃkʟ̝̊ʰɨ-mʲ] "there, I copulate" with mandatory deixis proclitic.
/ʈʂə.dza:/ PP "together/with"
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:14 pm
by schyrsivochter
2+3 clusivity wrote:
/ʈʂə.dza:/ PP "together/with"
Where’s the stress?
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:59 am
by 2+3 clusivity
It's a clitic in the language. So whatever it is attached to will determine stress.
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:17 am
by schyrsivochter
2+3 clusivity wrote:It's a clitic in the language. So whatever it is attached to will determine stress.
Alright, so I’ll follow the native stress on the first syllable:
2+3 clusivity wrote:/ʈʂə.dza:/ PP "together/with"
No. 1
tcltza [tcl̩.dzɑ]
a together
→ No. 4
tcadzǫ [ˈt͡ʃə.d͡zɒ̜]
a together
(with plural or ‘with’ or ‘and’ prepositional phrase—you get the idea)
Next: No. 4
wudjǫ [vɔʊ̯.d͡ʒɒ̜]
adv also, too, the same way
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:05 am
by Mâq Lar
schyrsivochter wrote:
Next: No. 4 wudjǫ [vɔʊ̯.d͡ʒɒ̜] adv also, too, the same way
foj /fɔd͡ʒ/
verb to mimic or copy; to act in the same way as
Next: b‘ala /bʶala/ ['bʶɑlʶɑ]*
n. temple, shrine, building for religious, spiritual, contemplative purposes
*uvularisation spreads rightwards and so is only marked on the first consonant
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:56 pm
by YourFace
Mâq Lar wrote:Next: b‘ala /bʶala/ ['bʶɑlʶɑ]* n. temple, shrine, building for religious, spiritual, contemplative purposes
Proto-Tsinkois *
baləm n. "shrine"
Next: *
nənsi n. "magic, supernatural phenomenon"
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:39 pm
by schyrsivochter
YourFace wrote:Next: *nənsi n. "magic, supernatural phenomenon"
No. 4
nance [ˈnən.ʃe]
a weird, strange
Next:
cnęf [ʃnɛa̯f]
a wide, broad, far
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:36 am
by MiscellaneousJax
Tá-Sīsī stàs [stas˨˩] long, large, wide, far
Next: tshjíts [tsʲʰits˧˥] ground, dirt
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:01 pm
by Qxentio
MiscellaneousJax wrote:Next: tshjíts [tsʲʰits˧˥] ground, dirt
Jagárh: tshídz (f) [ˈtʃʷiː.dz]: field, plantation
(already had a word for dirt, but this one I can use, thanks)
Next:
môzhó (m) [ˈmoː.ʒoː]: mood, feeling, atmosphere
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:21 pm
by alynnidalar
Qxentio wrote:Next: môzhó (m) [ˈmoː.ʒoː]: mood, feeling, atmosphere
Old Azen
mōsōn [ˈmo:.so:n]:
n emotion, feeling
Next:
giŋka [ˈgiŋ.ka]:
n letter, written message
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:11 pm
by schyrsivochter
alynnidalar wrote:Next: giŋka [ˈgiŋ.ka]: n letter, written message
No. 1
kynka [kçn̩kɑ]
n letter
→ No. 4a
gıịqkhǫ [ˈgiːŋ.xɒ]
n message, letter
Next: No. 4a
ịjcę [ˈɪʑ̥.ɕæ]
a important

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Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:30 am
by MobiusFlip
Sairètji isjè [iɕɛ] a important, meaningful, necessary
Next: Sairètji hatjèlù [çatɕɛlʊ] n power, force
Re: ZBB Lexicon Sculpting
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:14 am
by Pogostick Man
MobiusFlip wrote:Next: Sairètji hatjèlù [çatɕɛlʊ] n power, force
Proto-Çuvvaccos
*xjatsjɛlu force, might (> Çuvvaccoçim
çaʔçewao̯, Chuzvacsacham
xatsalu)
Next:
*ɣɤgjɤ four