How do you manage your lexicon?

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I use Lexique Pro. What do you do to sort your words?
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I use MS Excel. I tried Access once but I couldnt quite get my mind around it so I gave up. Access would have been awesome and perfect for matching languages with each other. Two of my conlangs have >10000 words so Im not sure Lexique Pro would handle that.
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I use TiddlyWiki. I use its fantastic scripting abilities and have built a tool that lets me interlink things in a neat way and is great for searching. (E.g., I can have multiple languages in one base, make links to and from glossed examples, to root words in the proto-Lang, to grammar topics...)

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Notepad documents or google documents. The first is preferable since it has a search function and if such a thing exists for google docs I haven't found it.

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Cmd/Ctrl+F gives you search in Google Docs.
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I have a spreadsheet with columns for word, glosses, grammatical category, etc. New words get added to the end of the list, and periodically I use the built-in alphabetizer to sort into (English, obvs) alpha order. I keep one set for Conlang>English and one set for English>Conlang just so I don't have to realphabetize when I switch which way I'm translating.

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Emacs. Why would I need anything else?

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Aili Meilani wrote:Emacs. Why would I need anything else?
A text editor for that operating system? I dunno, maybe EVIL?
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Badly ...

At the moment I mostly prefer Excel for my major languages. Some of my smaller languages I just keep lists in .doc(x) or .txt format, though.

I used to use Lexique Pro for my biggest languages until I inadvertently failed to transfer the source files when I got a new computer - I kept the .rtf outputs though so I didn't actually lose anything, although even several years later my Viksen vocabulary is now unevenly distributed between that .rtf file and the new .xlsx file. To be honest I think I prefer Excel - though LP does have certain advantages, I doubt I'll go back to it.

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I've started using ConWorkShop in conjunction with an Excel spreadsheet for managing my languages.

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vec wrote:Cmd/Ctrl+F gives you search in Google Docs.
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Either with Pages or Numbers on Mac. For short lists sometimes I use TextEdit.
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I use LaTeX to format a dictionary. Although usually I just end up looking at the raw .tex file instead of the PDF it outputs.
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I probably should use some sort of database thingie, maybe MSAccess or something... but I'd have to learn the ropes, so instead i make do with excel. it works well enough

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Excel doesn't seem to want to let me use extended letters. Word is very happy with this, but excel refuses point blank. Not even just user-specified letters, it doesn't even acknowledge that i'm using the United Kingdom Extended keyboard.
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I've had bad experiences with Lexique Pro and then also with spreadsheets and I've found, for me, it's simplest just to use text. It's easy to back up and there are never any problems with formatting. I do a whole lot of weird stuff to help myself search through it. Headwords are preceded by •, followed by ::, English words that I want to search for are in these < >, crossreferences to other words are in these ' ', tags for semantic domains are in these { }. It's not really pretty or anything but it works for me.

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• xume :: (v) is <necessary> to |D|; is <obligatory> for |D|; |D| <needs> <requires> <must have> |N| (≈ 'nase')

  » Xume zuo ka loe nu jeu.
  › xume      zuo   ka   loe   nu         jeu
  › necessary NOM.C PROS sleep NOM.1s.ICS same
  › “I will need to sleep later too.” [ICS/DOM] 

• xumie :: (v) <needs> <requires> <must> be |…| [from 'xume' + '-i-']
• xuo :: (v) is a <gap> <space> between |…|/|G| {spat}
  ◊ gixua ~ › (v) is <among> <amongst> |…|/|G| {loc}
  ◊ nxua ~ › (v) is <between> |…|/|G| {loc}
• xuomaki :: (v) is a <window> [from 'xuo' + 'maki']
• xuttia :: (v) <four> <and four> <plus four> [compounding form of number used as an addition rather than a multiplication, follows numbers of tens, from x- + nuttia, see 'ava'] {quan}
• xuua :: (n) [contraction of 'xu' + 'tia']
• xuue :: (n) [contraction of 'xu' + 'tie']
• xuuo :: (n) [contraction of 'xu' + 'tio']
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Z z /z/
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• za :: (p) <that> <which> [uninflected particle introducing a relative clause which generally includes a resumptive pronoun]

  » Iuxi va tiia za kue nu ixi to hueva xabas eni xuue.
  › iuxi            va  tiia    za  kue   nu         ixi             to   hueva xaba            ene        xu              -tie
  › GEN.3p.INAN.DEF all picture REL cause NOM.1s.ICS ACC.3p.INAN.DEF thus most  happy.situation DAT.1s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF this1
  › “Out of all of the pictures I've made, this one pleases me the most.” [ICS/DOM]

  » Ha vu inju za ttu eni zuo nju vu?
  › ha vu         i-   g-  ju             za  ttu      eni        zuo   g-  ju             vu
  › Q  NOM.2s.ICS PRED-COP-NOM.3s.ICS.DEF REL believed DAT.1s.ICS NOM.C COP-NOM.3s.ICS.DEF NOM.2s.ICS
  › “Are you who I think you are?” [ICS]

  » Kka nu inju za ttu eui zuo nju nu.
  › kka nu         i-   g-  ju             za  ttu      eui         zuo   g-  ju             nu
  › no  NOM.1s.ICS PRED-COP-NOM.3s.ICS.DEF REL believed DAT.2s.MASC NOM.C COP-NOM.3s.ICS.DEF NOM.1s.ICS
  › “I'm not who you think I am.” [ICS]

• zagua :: (v) is a <gibbon> [Hylobatidae] {fau}
• zaha :: (v) [MUJA] <fights> <attacks> |A| for |T| because of |Ca| [physically, without weapons, cf. 'gazau'] {vio}
  ◊ le ~ › (v) is <violence>
• zaitia :: (v) is <guts> <entrails> <intestines> <internal organs> of |G| {bod}
• zaliu :: 1. is a <slug> <land slug> [shell-less land-living gastropod] {fau}
           2. is <grease> <axle grease> [lubricant used to grease the axles of an 'ozuuo'] {Qu}
• zamita :: (v) is <Saturday> {loan} {DE} {Earth}
• zamu :: (v) <stands>
  ◊ ~ talu › (v) is <goosebumps>; |L|/|G| <has goosebumps>
• zara :: (v) <writes> |A| to |D| on |L|
  ◊ xo ~ :: (v) is a <scribe> <author> <writer> {job} 
• zare :: (v) is <grass> [Poaceae] {flo}
• zaria :: (v) is <writing>; is a <script> [from 'zara' + '-i-']
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Salmoneus wrote:Excel doesn't seem to want to let me use extended letters. Word is very happy with this, but excel refuses point blank. Not even just user-specified letters, it doesn't even acknowledge that i'm using the United Kingdom Extended keyboard.
really? I've never had any problem with character support in excel... then again, I'm lazy and so generally work with romanizations dependent on stuff like digraphs, instead of going through the trouble of fashioning or adopting some keyboard layout that allows one to type half the IPA. Still, I import plenty of non-standard characters to excel with no problems... though not the sort of "a-with-two-acute-accents-and-a-little-underdot" weird characters.

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I mainly use OpenOffice.org Calc(OpenOffice.org version of Excel), although I have tried to export some vocabularies to ConWorkShop, and have downloaded Lexique Pro and have even used Lexique Pro, but I am probably not patient enough, I have only typed less than 100 words in Lexique Pro, while I have two conlangs(one a priori, one a posteriori) with more than 2,000 words...
See here for a short introduction of some of my conlangs: http://cals.conlang.org/people/472

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Uzhdarchios wrote:Unfortunately, looking for the program now, it seems Mecislau’s removed LexManager from his website, so perhaps it’s no longer available for general use.
I was able to find it pretty quickly on GitHub. OTOH the last commit is from 2012 so it doesn't appear it's being actively maintained.
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k1234567890y wrote:I mainly use OpenOffice.org Calc(OpenOffice.org version of Excel),
What frustrates me about Calc is, if I want to find all the instances of, for example, the sequence /ti/ in my conlang and I select the column where the conlang words are and then go to search, it searches the entire document and finds ALL of the ti's in every column. What's the point of having my dictionary aranged in columns if I can't isolate the columns? Maybe newer versions don't do this?
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific
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Imralu wrote:
k1234567890y wrote:I mainly use OpenOffice.org Calc(OpenOffice.org version of Excel),
What frustrates me about Calc is, if I want to find all the instances of, for example, the sequence /ti/ in my conlang and I select the column where the conlang words are and then go to search, it searches the entire document and finds ALL of the ti's in every column. What's the point of having my dictionary aranged in columns if I can't isolate the columns? Maybe newer versions don't do this?
Can’t you circumvent this problem via filters?

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Imralu wrote:
k1234567890y wrote:I mainly use OpenOffice.org Calc(OpenOffice.org version of Excel),
What frustrates me about Calc is, if I want to find all the instances of, for example, the sequence /ti/ in my conlang and I select the column where the conlang words are and then go to search, it searches the entire document and finds ALL of the ti's in every column. What's the point of having my dictionary aranged in columns if I can't isolate the columns? Maybe newer versions don't do this?
If you click "More Options" in the find dialog, you can choose to sort by columns rather than rows, which can help a bit, although you have to make sure you're searching from the top cell or else it'll move to the next column.
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I’m using a database in LibreOffice Base (LibreOffice’s Access) for both of my conlangs; I even create additional tables and queries for some recurring tasks.
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