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Nortaneous wrote:1-Иaэaи= Iaèai
2-Қhaüa= Qha_a
3-Эuяaұ= È_jaaʊ
4-Ґғяөӯ= Gğjaöū
5-Тғяӯ= Tğjaū
6-Лғғ= Lğğ
7-Ґөөь= Göö'
8-Иғaиғ= Iğaiğ
9-Üuэaи= __èai
10-Тaяэuұ= Tajaè_u
20-Қhoяұи= Qhojaui
30-Эғлhaи= Èğlhai
40-Ґғлhaи= Gğlhai
50-Тғяӯaи= Tğjaūai
60-Лғғиaи= Lğğiai
70-Ґөөьaи= Göö'ai
80-Иғaиғи= Iğaiği
90-Üuэaиғи= __èaiği
100- Тaяӯaи= Tajaūai
1000- Тaяӯaиғ= Tajaūaiğ
10,000- Тaя-Тaяӯaиғ= Taja-Tajaūaiğ
100,000- Тaяӯaи-тaяӯaиғ= Tajaūai-tajaūaiğ
1,000,000- Иaэaи-Лaұқ= Iaèai-Lauq
10,000,000- Тaяэuұ-Лaұқ= Tajaè_u-Lauq
So that's how it would be respecting the Cyrillic pronunciations? I am new on this, I just used the letters for how they look, I just ignored their pronunciations.

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Yes, that's what I was trying to tell you. It's not about how they look to a user of the Latin script; these symbols mean something different for users of Cyrillic.
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din wrote:Yes, that's what I was trying to tell you. It's not about how they look to a user of the Latin script; these symbols mean something different for users of Cyrillic.
Yes sorry, I just ignored that, I don't know why maybe I was obsessed with the look.

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Does anyone know of a non-Germanic (preferably non-IE) natlang that lists the digits in hundreds-ones-tens order?

EDIT: disregard, have found numerous examples.

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Ooh, numbers. Me like numbers.

Most of my number systems are rather boring and European, like Ilian:
1 - y /ˈi/
2 - két /ˈkeːt/
3 - harã /ˈhaɾɐ̃/
4 - patr /ˈpatɾ̩/
5 - át /ˈaːt/
6 - ceq /ˈʃet͡ʃ/
7 - há /ˈhaː/
8 - njelz /ˈɲelt͡s/
9 - týva /ˈtiːʋa/
10 - týca /ˈtiːʃa/
11 - týcany /ˈtiːʃanˌi/
12 - týcankét /ˈtiːʃanˌkeːt/
13 - týcanharã /ˈtiːʃanˌhaɾɐ̃/
14 - týcanpatr /ˈtiːʃanˌpatɾ̩/
15 - týcanát /ˈtiːʃanˌaːt/
16 - týcanceq /ˈtiːʃanˌʃet͡ʃ/
17 - týcanhá /ˈtiːʃanˌhaː/
18 - týcannjelz /ˈtiːʃaɲˌɲelt͡s/
19 - týcantýva /ˈtiːʃanˌtiːʋa/
20 - hés /ˈheːs/
25 - hésanát /ˈheːsanˌaːt/
30 - hárãza /ˈhaːɾɐ̃t͡sa/
40 - patreva /ˈpatɾeʋa/
50 - átva /ˈaːtʋa/
60 - ceqva /ˈʃet͡ʃʋa/
70 - háva /ˈhaːʋa/
80 - njelva /ˈɲelʋa/
90 - tývata /ˈtiːʋata/
100 - ctá /ˈʃtaː/
200 - kécty /ˈkeːʃti/
500 - átcete /ˈaːtʃete/
1000 - xyljade / ˈxiʎade/

These are the counting forms of numbers; article forms are a little different, requiring the plural ending appropriate for the noun being modified (for dual, paucal, or plural, as appropriate). Also, Ilian has vowel harmony, so these numbers take different forms depending on what they modify.

Oshaharu, however, has a semi-mixed base system of 5 and 20, representing the number of digits on one hand and the number of digits of the human body. Written here in IPA, though Oshaharu has its own script (might be included soon).
1 - kɔ
2 - ʔǎj
3 - mjà
4 - t͡sjɛ
5 - pá
6 - kɔ pá kɛ́ (coll. kɔ pá, lit. "one with five")
7 - ʔǎj pá kɛ́
8 - mjà pá kɛ́
9 - t͡sjɛ pá kɛ́
10 - pá kɔ̀ ʔǎj (lit. "pair of fives")
11 - kɔ pá kɔ̀ ʔǎj kɛ́ (lit. "one with pair of fives")
15 - pá kɔ̀ mjà (lit. "trio of fives")
20 - cɯ̌j
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Is Ilian spoken close to Hungary?
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din wrote:Is Ilian spoken close to Hungary?
The language was heavily inspired by Hungarian, but was originally designed in a semi-separate world. Were it spoken in the real world... perhaps?
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English on steroids:

1. half a pair
2. a pair
3. baker's pair
4. a pair of pairs
5. baker's pair of pairs
6. half a dozen
7. baker's half dozen
8. half a dozen and a pair
9. half a dozen and baker's pair
10. half a score
11. baker's half score
12. a dozen
13. baker's dozen
14. a dozen and a pair
15. a dozen and baker's pair
16. a dozen and a pair of pairs
17. a dozen and baker's pair of pairs
18. a dozen and a half
19. a dozen and a half and half a pair
20. a score
21. baker's score / a blackjack
22. a score and a pair
23. a score and baker's pair
24. a pair of dozens
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Carinnaha Numbers

Note that the following is masculine / feminine.

(Also note that m- is an instrumental/comitative preposition.)

one: rat / rath (inflects for definiteness and case as well)
two: mi / mih
three: vra / vrah
four: ked / kedh
five: sak / sakh
six: sak mrate / sakh mratahi
seven: sak mmiye / sakh mmiyahi
eight: sak mvre / sakh mvrahi
nine: sak mkede / sakh mkedahi
ten: qart / qarth
eleven: qart mrate / qarth mratahi
twelve: qart mmiye / qarth mmiyahi
etc.
sixteen qart msake mrate / qarth msakahi mratahi
etc.
twenty: job / jobh
twenty one: job mrate / jobh mratahi
etc.
thirty: job mqarte / jobh mqartahi
thirty one: job mqarte mrate / jobh mqartahi mratahi
etc.
forty: job mi / jobh mih
forty one: job mi mrate / jobh mih mratahi
etc.
fifty: job mi mqarte / jobh mih mqartahi
fifty one: job mi mqarte mrate / jobh mih mqartahi mratahi
etc.
hundred: rekr / rekrh
hundred and one: rekr mrate / rekrh mratahi
etc.
hundred and ten: rekr mqarte / rekrh mqartahi
hundred and eleven: rekr mqarte mrate / rekrh mqartahi mratahi
etc.
hundred and twenty: rekr mjobe / rekrh mjobahi
hundred and twenty one: rekr mjobe mrate / rekrh mjobahi mratahi
etc.
hundred and thirty: rekr mjobe mqarte / rekrh mjobahi mqartahi
hundred and thirty one: rekr mjobe mqarte mrate / rekrh mjobahi mqartahi mratahi
etc.
hundred and forty: rekr mjobe mi / rekrh mjobahi mih
hundred and forty one: rekr mjobe mi mrate / rekrh mjobahi mih mratahi
etc.
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I am posting again my number system now corrected and with IPA, tell me if there is any error.

1: нэгун/ negun/nykun (one, unique) [ˈnɘɡʊn]
2: йурэр/ jurer [ˈjʊɾe]
3: ҳурбaн/ hurban [ˈgyɾbən]
4: дурйин/ durjin [ˈdʊjin]
5: тaбaн/ taban (middle) [ˈtabɘn]
6: йургуй/ jurguj [ˈtabɘn]
7: дaлґaн/ dalghan [ˈdalɡɘn]
8: нaыэр/ nayer [ˈnæjɘɾ]
9: уысун/ uysun [ˈujsŋ]
10: ҳaрбaн/ harban [ˈaɾbɘn]
20: йурчин/ jurchin [ˈjyɾʂin]
30: ҳурчин/ hurchin [ˈxʊɾʂin]
40: дурйчин/ durjchin [ˈdʊɾʂin]
50: тусaн/ tusan (middle) [tysan]
60: йинйҳу/ jinjhu [ˈjiŋjy]
70: дaрaнйҳу/ daranjhu [ˈdaɾaŋjy]
80: нaырунйҳу/ nayrunjhu [ˈŋajɾɘnjy]
90: ыурунйҳу/ yurunjhu [ˈjyrunjy ]
100: нэг яргсүн or more commonly called: нык яргсүн/ neg, nyk jargsün
1000: нэг мaнгян/ neg,nyk mangjan (mangjan: used for troops of more than one thousand)
10000: нэг тумaн/ neg,nyk tuman
100000: ярг мaнгян/ jarg mangjan
1000000: нэг сaыур/ сaгур/ neg,nyk sayur, sagur
10000000: ҳaр сaыур/ сaгур/ har sayur, sagur
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I'm not sure, but I think you've put the stress mark (should be ˈ and not an apostrophe ('), btw) after the stressed syllable, whereas it should come before.

Apart from that I can't really correct anything because it seems like a bit of an odd phonology that defies Russian and other Cyrillic-written languages (ie, it seems different).

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احمکي ارش-ھجن wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:
احمکي ارش-ھجن wrote:Eh..., I find your improper and nonstandard use of Cyrillic to be an eyesore, much like someone using "e" for /d/ and "b" for /o/.
using <q> for a vowel, on the other hand, is proper and good
Who uses that like a vowel and what value?
the value is [Q], and guess who would possibly
Lme wrote:I am posting again my number system now corrected and with IPA, tell me if there is any error.
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idk about errors but those sure are some diachronics you have there
Why does нэгэн start with a velar nasal? Also, you appear to be using ы as a semivowel -- is there a reason for that?
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finlay wrote:I'm not sure, but I think you've put the stress mark (should be ˈ and not an apostrophe ('), btw) after the stressed syllable, whereas it should come before.

Apart from that I can't really correct anything because it seems like a bit of an odd phonology that defies Russian and other Cyrillic-written languages (ie, it seems different).
the phonology is based on proto-mongolian and slightly on mongolian and yes I admit the fact that it may defy cyrillic in some way but I haven't found any good letter to represent letters alone like "j" for example.

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Hallow XIII wrote:
احمکي ارش-ھجن wrote:
Nortaneous wrote:
احمکي ارش-ھجن wrote:Eh..., I find your improper and nonstandard use of Cyrillic to be an eyesore, much like someone using "e" for /d/ and "b" for /o/.
using <q> for a vowel, on the other hand, is proper and good
Who uses that like a vowel and what value?
the value is [Q], and guess who would possibly
Lme wrote:I am posting again my number system now corrected and with IPA, tell me if there is any error.
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idk about errors but those sure are some diachronics you have there
Why does нэгэн start with a velar nasal? Also, you appear to be using ы as a semivowel -- is there a reason for that?
sorry, I will correct that, "ы" is literally "y" in romanized russian and its pronunciation would vary depending on the word and dialect of my language, is it incorrect to have ы for a semivowel? my concept on cyrillic letters isn't very developed.

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ы is pronounced /ɨ/ in Russian, which is an allophone of /i/ after hard consonants.
Slavic languages have two major sets of consonants: hard and soft. Instead of having forty something different characters to represent things, the vowels preceding the noun carry the /ʲ/. Therefore you have two sets of vowels (this is Russian, other Cyrillic alphabets may use different letters. The system is mostly the same):
Hard: а э ы о у
Soft: я е и ё ю
/j/ in the onset is usually indicated by a soft vowel other than <и>, except in some loanwords (including from other Slavic languages). The pronunciation of hard front vowels and soft back vowels is centralised, and the pronunciation also differs based on whether the syllable is stressed or not.
I suggest posting your phonology in the Romanization thread to get more help. Add any history and geographical location if it is relevant to whether a South Slavic, Ukrainian or Russian look is used, People will probably just use the South Slavic style for South Slavic-like phonologies and Russian otherwise without that context.
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Täptäg:

1. *gsɛ > gzæ gzä
2. *dɾɛ̃s > d̥æ̃s dhą̈s
3. *ksẽɾe > kʃẽja księja
4. *pektɾɛ > pʲekʰtʰa piekhtha
5. *brẽpgɾɔ > b̥ʲẽb̥g̊a bhiębhgha
6. *nseɾ > anʒah anziah
12. *sĩʔtɾe > ʃẽtʲʰa sęthia
36. *ɾĩgɾũ > jẽg̊wõ jęghwǫ
216. *ben > bʲan bian
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mèþru wrote:ы is pronounced /ɨ/ in Russian, which is an allophone of /i/ after hard consonants.
Slavic languages have two major sets of consonants: hard and soft. Instead of having forty something different characters to represent things, the vowels preceding the noun carry the /ʲ/. Therefore you have two sets of vowels (this is Russian, other Cyrillic alphabets may use different letters. The system is mostly the same):
Hard: а э ы о у
Soft: я е и ё ю
/j/ in the onset is usually indicated by a soft vowel other than <и>, except in some loanwords (including from other Slavic languages). The pronunciation of hard front vowels and soft back vowels is centralised, and the pronunciation also differs based on whether the syllable is stressed or not.
I suggest posting your phonology in the Romanization thread to get more help. Add any history and geographical location if it is relevant to whether a South Slavic, Ukrainian or Russian look is used, People will probably just use the South Slavic style for South Slavic-like phonologies and Russian otherwise without that context.
Thanks! this information is very helpful.

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Pof numerals

1. padpa
2. tadpa
3. papad
4. metap
5. tepad
6. pedap
7. pamda
8. padda
9. papda

10. pepadep pedape
11. pepadep tedape
12. pepadep pepeda
13. pepadep mitepa
14. pepadep tipeda
15. pepadep pidepa
16. pepadep pemade
17. pepadep pedade

18. tedapet pepade
19. tidepita pipedip pedape
20. tidepita pipedip tedape

27. pepedat pepade
28. pipideta pipedip pedape

36. mitepat pepade
37. mutipeta pipedip pedape

45. tipedat pepade
46. tupideta pipedip pedape

54. pidepat pepade
55. pudipeta pipedip pedape

63. pemadet pepade
64. pimedita pipedip pedape

72. pedadet pepade
73. pidedita pipedip pedape

powers of 9:
9^2: pepadex tedape
9^3: pepadex pepeda
9^4. pepadex mitepa
9^5. pepadex tipeda
9^6: pepadex pidepa
9^7: pepadex pemade
9^8: pepadex pedade

multiples of powers of 9, absolute form (examples):
2(9^2): tidepit pipedixa tidepi
3(9^3): pipidet pipedixa pipide
4(9^4): mutipet pipedixa mutipe
5(9^5): tupidet pipedixa tupide
6(9^6): pudipet pipedixa pudipe
7(9^7): pimedit pipedixa pimedi
8(9^8): pidedit pipedixa pidedi

^the multiples and exponents can be combined any which way, e.g. 4(9^3): mutipet pipedixa pipide, etc.

multiples of powers of 9, additive form (examples):
2(^2): tudiputa pupiduxe tudipup
3(9^3): pupudita pupiduxe pupudip
4(9^4): motupita pupiduxe motupip
5(9^5): topudita pupiduxe topudip
6(9^6): podupita pupiduxe podupip
7(9^7): pumiduta pupiduxe pumidup
8(9^8): pudiduta pupiduxe pudidup

^like the absolute forms, these can also be combined any which way. They can be concatenated to form complex numerals:
(4(9^3)) + (7(9^2)) + (8(9)) + 4:
motupita pupiduxe pupudip, pumiduta pupiduxe tudipup, pidedita pipedip tipeda.

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Lions, tigers, and labials oh my!
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Suggest merging with viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44733
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