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What if I used the rules that turned the Vulgar Latin in Modern Brazilian Portuguese , in English to an English with Latin characteristics ? How it would sound as the Portuguese sounds a little different?
Portuguese only allows s r l m as final consonants , vowels and nasal has also dintongos nasal . Please give me a help !!!

I thought the Portangles name, which means door of the English, because Portuguese comes from Portugal , which means door of the Gauls , but do not know if it's good

You will have to modify the rules, since the starting points are different.

Brazilian Portuguese didn't come from Vulgar Latin, but rather from the Portuguese of the 16th century. However, colonial Portuguese didn't really become a new language over time, so calling the pt-BR of today "modern", as to give it a "separate language" feeling, may be problematic as well. You could think of applying the rules that turned Vulgar Latin into Old Portuguese, though.
(also, Brazilian Portuguese only allows /s, r/ at the syllable coda)

youkai01 wrote:Brazilian Portuguese didn't come from Vulgar Latin, but rather from the Portuguese of the 16th century.

Saying this is like saying that Modern English didn't come from Proto-Germanic because it came from Old English. Old English ultimately comes from Proto-Germanic, thus so does Modern English. In the same way, Brazilian Portuguese ultimately comes from Vulgar Latin. What I presume the OP means is that they want to apply the sound changes that happened throughout all the 1600 years or so from Vulgar Latin to Modern Brazilian Portuguese.

You'll need to pick a dialect of English, as different dialects have radically different vowel sets. (For a good feel of the variety, look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... h_dialects, and remember that those are just the major dialect groups).

Matrix wrote:Saying this is like saying that Modern English didn't come from Proto-Germanic because it came from Old English. Old English ultimately comes from Proto-Germanic, thus so does Modern English. In the same way, Brazilian Portuguese ultimately comes from Vulgar Latin. What I presume the OP means is that they want to apply the sound changes that happened throughout all the 1600 years or so from Vulgar Latin to Modern Brazilian Portuguese.

Evidently, but take a look at how they phrased that: "What if I used the rules that turned the Vulgar Latin in Modern Brazilian Portuguese (..)". It sounds like the change was direct, which just isn't the case.

youkai01 wrote:

Matrix wrote:Saying this is like saying that Modern English didn't come from Proto-Germanic because it came from Old English. Old English ultimately comes from Proto-Germanic, thus so does Modern English. In the same way, Brazilian Portuguese ultimately comes from Vulgar Latin. What I presume the OP means is that they want to apply the sound changes that happened throughout all the 1600 years or so from Vulgar Latin to Modern Brazilian Portuguese.

Evidently, but take a look at how they phrased that: "What if I used the rules that turned the Vulgar Latin in Modern Brazilian Portuguese (..)". It sounds like the change was direct, which just isn't the case.

Of course it was direct. It was a continuous process - the fact that you can attach arbitrary labels at any point doesn't affect the changes themselves in the slightest.

I suggest reducing the sound changes to their distinctive feature components in order to account for the differing the starting phonology e.g. rather than n>0/V_V, say +nas -syll -lab>0/V_V.

Why pick English and pick Brazilian Portuguese ?

mèþru wrote:You'll need to pick a dialect of English, as different dialects have radically different vowel sets. (For a good feel of the variety, look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... h_dialects, and remember that those are just the major dialect groups).

That person would also need to pick a dialect of Brazilian Portuguese to aim for.