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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:19 pm 
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Hi there! After a little searching, I believe there is no thread addressing this topic - while it's really important. So let's start listing all the possible benefits of an international auxiliary language. The more the better. What I can think of for now are:
1. Can travel all around the world.
2. Can work anywhere, therefore:
3. Easier to relocate to your own paradise.
4. Spring the world economy, now that the wall of misunderstanding has collapsed.
5. Accelerate science and technology via better collaboration.
6. Encourage cross breeding among races and colors, and as a result reducing or even eliminate ethnic clashes (and on some scales, national conflicts).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:43 pm 
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Y'all have forgotten the most important benefit of an established IAL: we can finally stamp out all of those little languages that show us the full potential of the human linguistic spirit. There's no need to think about things a different way ever again!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:56 pm 
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Also, even native English-speakers would have to learn an established IAL. We'd no longer be able to rely on the expectation of the rest of the world learning our language as much as we do now.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:30 pm 
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Also, I feel like the idea of intermarriage "solving" problems is stupid. First, being married to someone of a different background does not necessarily mean that you are not racist (especially considering the concept of hatred if one's one culture). The second is that while intermarriage can establish bonds between cultures, the children are often raised in only one culture and raise their own children in that culture, making the exchange a loss for one of the two cultures. This is why, for example, the very culturally liberal hilonim (secular Jews, but they are distinct in culture from secular Jews in other countries) in Israel feel uneasy about the high rate of intermarriage between secular Jews elsewhere in the world and non-Jews: the "minority" Jewish culture, even if cherished by one of the parents, is often abandoned by the children, who become indistinguishable from other people of their country.
IALs are mainly touted to solve non-issues. The resources needed to teach everyone IALs would be greater than or equal to the cost of the status quo.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:06 pm 
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I'm not saying intermarriage is always bad or that all aspects are bad (I love cultural exchange and mutual understanding, for one). The vast majority of intermarriages, however, see some level of cultural erosion. (On the other extreme, there's all the "Irish" and "Italian" Americans, who maintain cultural links which barely exist and do not even understand the culture they claim to be a part of.)
I never really thought of non-social aspects of intermarriage.

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kikodo pämoükons oba stafädis? äspikob me IAL igo! admittedly it is not one that i can speak, but

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:50 pm 
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You all have really got some points there, which I will take into serious consideration. However, I don't intend to start a series of arguments (that stuff can wait at another thread to get addressed specifically). Please note the purpose of this thread is to list as much as possible, all the benefits that people will reap once an IAL has spread worldwide, not to discuss whether one particular benefit is right or wrong, practical or not. So, in this case I'd like to ask that we all imagine a utopia-like globe where every single person has at least 2 languages in his pocket: the native & the IAL. What's the differences between that world & our current one (again, please talk about benefits only)?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:12 pm 
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More foreign arts and popular entertainment from countries with widespread multilingualism (such as India)? I am not really sure if people will take cultural products from "exotic" lands that well, and really doubt the benefits of IALs. This is a pretty difficult challenge!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:13 am 
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A benefit of an established IAL would be an influx of new languages for linguists to study: creoles of IAL with the various local languages for one, and when communities form where the IAL becomes L1, the inevitable diachronic change will mutate them into something new. And then, after a few centuries, people will be able to try to establish a new IAL since the old one won't be mutually comprehensible anymore. It will be a lot of fun.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:19 pm 
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Why did I open this thread again?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:27 pm 
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Only for films made in IALs though, not for films originally made in other languages.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:54 pm 
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Well obviously. Anything made pre-IAL (International Anime Language or International Arts Language) would still fall under dub-or-sub continuity. We'll simply eliminate it going forward.

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