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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:23 pm 
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I want to develop a syllabary for Chavakani and the other Chondru languages to use. I was going to develop it from simplification of a set of logographic characters, which it coexists with. (The syllabary being a "demotic" script used for everyday purposes and the logographic script being the "hieratic" counterpart used for official and religious documents.) The logographic system is quite old and was adopted by the Chondru many centuries ago from some other group in their area; I haven't actually decided much of anything about this other culture yet.

I'm concerned that the resulting syllabary will end up with more in common with Japanese kana systems than I'd like, since these are the most prolific, best-documented example of a syllabary derived from logograms I'm aware of. What are some things I can do to differentiate these paired writing systems from kana and kanji? At the moment the main idea I've got is to make their forms different via a different preferred writing medium; since heartland Chondru territory is tropical forest I was thinking that during the formative period of the syllabary (and the contemporary version of the logograms) the most common method of writing was carving characters in wood, which would give them very angular forms made of straight lines, perhaps resembling Germanic runes. What else can I do to make it distinctive?

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For reference, here's the phonology of Chavakani, copied (slightly modified, as it was revised during the thread) from :

Nasals: /m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ny ng'>
Prenasalized: /ᵐb ⁿd ⁿdʒ ᵑɡ/ <mb nd nj ng>
Stops/Affricate: /p t tʃ k ʔ/ <p t ch k '>
Fricatives: /f s h/ <f s h>
Other: /w ɾ j/ <v/w r y>

Vowels: /i u e o a/ <i u e o a>

(/w/ is realized as [w] after consonants and in this context is written <w>; word-initially and after vowels it is realized [β] and written <v>.)

Only open syllables are allowed. Onsets may consist of any single consonant, most single consonants followed by /w/, or any non-palatal, non-glottal stop followed by /ɾ/. All polyphthongs are transparently reducible to a sequence of vowels.

Chavakani distinguishes low, high, and falling tones, with high tones being slightly more marked than low and falling significantly more marked than the others.

Relevant to this thread: While the syllabary developed among the set of dialects that includes Chavakani and its close relatives, and most members of this group have variations on the same base set of sounds as Chavakani (e.g. simple voiced stops instead of prenasalized stops, alveolar instead of palatoalveolar sibilants, deleted glottals, different tones), one major type of segment that Chavakani doesn't distinguish while many of its neighbors do is what I'll call <đ>. This historical segment has a wide variety of realizations across West Chondru dialects, such as [l], [z], [j], and [v]; they descend from Proto-West Chondru [ð]. In Chavakani it merged with /ɾ/ word-intially and was deleted elsewhere. At any rate, this syllabary will probably have distinct characters for syllables beginning with đ even if Chavakani doesn't typically use them.

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