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Having read about Brithenig and Wenedyk, I have become fascinated about bogolanging- the conlanger's version of alternative history: "What if this language belonged to that family instead of this one?"
AFAIK, to bogolang one needs a "Grand Master Plan", which consists of two main stages:
1. Transforming the structure-supplying language into the phonology of the stratum language's proto-language
2. Using sound changes to derive the modified stratum
i.e. In Wenedyk's case, this meant transforming Latin into Proto-slavic phonology, and then applying to it the sound changes that made Polish in our universe, creating a romance language (the structure) on a Polish stratum. Brithenig did the same with a Welsh stratum.
I'm pondering about a similar project to make English a romance language, but I don't exactly know how.
Can you help me out on that?

ÜberBen wrote:I'm pondering about a similar project to make English a romance language, but I don't exactly know how.

You want to make a Romance language that underwent English sound changes or do you want an Old English that underwent Romance sound changes? If the latter, the changes of which Romance language (E.g. French, Spanish, Romanian...)

There are many different ways to make alternate history languages, some completely "bogo" and some not. There's a user named alice who made a nice introduction to bogolanging in his website (no longer available, but here's an archive). Here is an example of a very non-bogo, carefully though altlang.

mèþru wrote:There's a user named alice who made a nice introduction to bogolanging in his website (no longer available, but here's an archive).

Yes, but is it Art?

alice wrote:Yes, but is it Art?

It depends on the market to which they are dedicated...

alice wrote:

mèþru wrote:There's a user named alice who made a nice introduction to bogolanging in his website (no longer available, but here's an archive).

Yes, but is it Art?

Bogo is a art.

Also, this post is a meme.

Also also, this post is a self-referential meme.

Pole, the wrote:

alice wrote:

mèþru wrote:There's a user named alice who made a nice introduction to bogolanging in his website (no longer available, but here's an archive).

Yes, but is it Art?

Bogo is a art.

So are hypercorrections and generalisations of allomorphs

ÜberBen wrote:Having read about Brithenig and Wenedyk, I have become fascinated about bogolanging- the conlanger's version of alternative history: "What if this language belonged to that family instead of this one?"
AFAIK, to bogolang one needs a "Grand Master Plan", which consists of two main stages:
1. Transforming the structure-supplying language into the phonology of the stratum language's proto-language
2. Using sound changes to derive the modified stratum
i.e. In Wenedyk's case, this meant transforming Latin into Proto-slavic phonology, and then applying to it the sound changes that made Polish in our universe, creating a romance language (the structure) on a Polish stratum. Brithenig did the same with a Welsh stratum.
I'm pondering about a similar project to make English a romance language, but I don't exactly know how.
Can you help me out on that?

for years i've been working, off and on, with one based on this idea. my first attempts were stymied by the fact that english has so much vocabulary borrowed from romance stock that i didn't really know how to resolve it. what i settled on was: switch latin and proto-germanic at birth. of course this necessitates a lot more than just making the new-english, which is why i haven't made much progress on it, but it's the only way i can see of doing it

i did kiiiind of cheat by using classical latin as the starting point rather than vulgar latin, because even though this is historically wrong it's also MUCH easier to match proto-germanic's vowel system to classical than to vulgar. plus it means i get to make a "vulgar germanic", from which i can derive germano-french, germano-spanish, germano-romanian...