Help your conlang fluency (2)

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Kaenif wrote:魁札爾科亞特爾
[fuːi˥ tsaːt̚˧ ji:˧˥ fɔː˥ ŋa:˧ tɐk̚˨ jiː˧˥]

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[ˈgweːkauɣoːnɛ]
gwék-auxón e
shit-hail VOC

OH GOD WHY
IPSVM EST ILLVD QVI ILLIS PASSAT AD VOSTRAS MERCEDES ILLOS DE HONCON PRO VSARE SINIFICATIONES QVAE NON FAVORESCVNT AD NATOS MAGIS QVID AD ILLOS DE BEIIN! PRO SVPPOSITVM QUID TENET MAGIS SENTITVM SI SE LEGIT Kuízhárkēyàtèr [kʰweɪ˧˥ ʈʂɑɻ˧˥ kʰɤ˥ ja˥˧ tʰɤɻ˥˩].
That's what you Hongkongers get for using Sinifications that favour nobody but Beijingers! Of course it makes a hell lot more sense if you read it Kuízhárkēyàtèr [kʰweɪ˧˥ ʈʂɑɻ˧˥ kʰɤ˥ ja˥˧ tʰɤɻ˥˩].

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Ahàn ece tia gu egehòa ia ceòta eu tia gu xiòate teghin gà xìtwa
This day I have created a new language and have written a hundred words (of my essay)

Does anyone have any information on how verb particles in Maori and Hawaiian came about? By which I mean all the little analytic titbits that express tense and stuff.

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it makes a hell lot more sense if you read it Kuízhárkēyàtèr
Serafinos tayámíva.
I definitely agree with you there Serafin.

Clawgripos - á vairya 'bujhayam. [ɺ]am [ɾ]am ceva [r]am nihommahá rahaváya vajány anti? E cayastam!
Clawgrip - I see now. [ɺ], [ɾ], and even [r] for Japan-speak r-sounds are the possibilites? Gee, thanks!
[ɛ, æ, ɔ] are also odd choices.
Viyebhyáh Sebhyár vajebhyáh kám ijhayasi
What do you recommend for these odd choices?
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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abaddamn wrote:Clawgripos - á vairya 'bujhayam. [ɺ]am [ɾ]am ceva [r]am nihommahá rahaváya vajány anti? E cayastam!
Clawgrip - I see now. [ɺ], [ɾ], and even [r] for Japan-speak r-sounds are the possibilites? Gee, thanks!
[ɛ, æ, ɔ] are also odd choices.
Viyebhyáh Sebhyár vajebhyáh kám ijhayasi
What do you recommend for these odd choices?
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[ɺ] gaayeu. [r] teuk choanaa fneuut bia laok.
[ɺ] is most typical. [r] is usually only used when people are angry.

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[e̞ ä o̞] biñkeh cheung poung /e a o/ sgeulor. Cheung [ä] nget ygaiy.
[e̞ ä o̞] if you're being precise, but /e a o/serve fine otherwise. But everyone hates [ä].
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*error*
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.

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Izambri wrote:*error*
áviyo 'jayam ka
[aʋɪjo ɟəjəɴ kɐ ]
Error (Many.different) or accident (un-intention)
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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my reis xD. [ä] es tal el son vocálic melyor sonant i mais pur ge vida xD.
lol? [ä] is like the best sounding purest vowel ever.

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clawgrip wrote:
abaddamn wrote:Clawgripos - á vairya 'bujhayam. [ɺ]am [ɾ]am ceva [r]am nihommahá rahaváya vajány anti? E cayastam!
Clawgrip - I see now. [ɺ], [ɾ], and even [r] for Japan-speak r-sounds are the possibilites? Gee, thanks!
[ɛ, æ, ɔ] are also odd choices.
Viyebhyáh Sebhyár vajebhyáh kám ijhayasi
What do you recommend for these odd choices?
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[ɺ] gaayeu. [r] teuk choanaa fneuut bia laok.
[ɺ] is most typical. [r] is usually only used when people are angry.

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[e̞ ä o̞] biñkeh cheung poung /e a o/ sgeulor. Cheung [ä] nget ygaiy.
[e̞ ä o̞] if you're being precise, but /e a o/serve fine otherwise. But everyone hates [ä].
actually i hate the other two with equal fervour, mainly because they're unnecessary in almost any context. When are you ever that precise that you know it's that and not the alternative? That's basically the thrust of the argument against. Phonetically human mouths are not that consistent, and it's more accurate to say that whatever /e/ is, it occurs within a phonetic region on a vowel chart or harmonic graph.

Doing it 'my' way was also one of the design goals of the IPA – they didn't necessarily make this clear enough, but that's why there is no symbol for a precisely mid front or back vowel or a precisely central open vowel.

If you use the versions with diacritics I'm gonna want you to back it up with spectrograms... Them's the rules.

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Te exexin gu e iaxatixi eu e iaxatixi é...

Cia má aciá, yei íca gú táiamtinie co jiúci né.


The nights are getting colder and colder...

I am very happy because I have finished writing my essay.

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GrinningManiac wrote:

Cia má aciá, yei íca gú táiamtinie co jiúci né.


I am very happy because I have finished writing my essay.
Nim dhûra tinmacûl?

What kind of essay? :-D

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Táiamtinie Uéoúx o
tɑ:jamtʲɪnie we:ɔwu:x ɔ
an essay about Beowulf

Cuixa Crisiticiutiun Uéoúx cuio adaiti iúcre?
Kixa kʁɪʃtʲɪt͡ʃʲutʲən we:ɔwu:x kʲɔ adaɪtʲɪ ju:cʁə
Is Christianity an important element in Beowulf?

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Cuixa Crisiticiutiun Uéoúx cuio adaiti iúcre?
Kixa kʁɪʃtʲɪt͡ʃʲutʲən we:ɔwu:x kʲɔ adaɪtʲɪ ju:cʁə
Is Christianity an important element in Beowulf?
Tasya dháryas caiyo vatíva na ka.
Only if your teacher is religious or not.
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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swazomyatwa siszani! rë eyirkoy twazer ratejörašya šwattya.
['sʷazomjatʷa 'sizani] [rɛ 'ejiɾkoj 'tʷazer 'ɾatedʒɔɾaʃʲa 'ʃʷatʲa]
divinity-erg.plu.def dead-adj ! be.atrb this_thing 1P.Poss rule-nom-obl.s.def-gen time.
the gods are dead! It is the time of our rule!

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Danglok bjeuup aajung kliongstoakeuu cheunggna Biowou kliongstoalarng trok. Biowou keun wgoydiang ler ñoularng nek nek kliongstoalarng gmar tek bia ler fkaiykiap fkeufpooayng. Pñork mbiau choa cheung.
whether.or.not teacher be Christian regardless Beowulf Christianity be.important | Beowulf TPC concept belong paganism and and Christianity exist and time belong transition demonstrate | this read only but
Whether or not your teacher is Christian, Christianity is important in Beowulf. Beowulf contains elements of both paganism and Christianity and demonstrates a period of transition. At least that's what I've read anyway.

Edit: Had to invent 3 new characters for this message!
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Si Crisiticiutiun adaiti iúcre Uéoúx cuio!
Christianity IS an integral element in Beowulf

Cuixa sio gú Uéoúx onguasi né?
Have you read Beowulf?
Danglok bjeuup aajung kliongstoakeuu cheunggna Biowou kliongstoalarng trok. Biowou keun wgoydiang ler ñoularng nek nek kliongstoalarng gmar tek bia ler fkaiykiap fkeufpooayng. Pñork mbiau choa cheung.
whether.or.not teacher be Christian regardless Beowulf Christianity be.important | Beowulf TPC concept belong paganism and and Christianity exist and time belong transition demonstrate | this read only but
Whether or not your teacher is Christian, Christianity is important in Beowulf. Beowulf contains elements of both paganism and Christianity and demonstrates a period of transition. At least that's what I've read anyway.
Si, emexo.
It is, exactly.
swazomyatwa siszani! rë eyirkoy twazer ratejörašya šwattya.
['sʷazomjatʷa 'sizani] [rɛ 'ejiɾkoj 'tʷazer 'ɾatedʒɔɾaʃʲa 'ʃʷatʲa]
divinity-erg.plu.def dead-adj ! be.atrb this_thing 1P.Poss rule-nom-obl.s.def-gen time.
the gods are dead! It is the time of our rule!
te taioin á cluáxa! Ocoioc! Ocoioc diu-toxa amo!
The gods will return! Repent! Repent your sins!

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Lyra wrote:swazomyatwa siszani! rë eyirkoy twazer ratejörašya šwattya.
['sʷazomjatʷa 'sizani] [rɛ 'ejiɾkoj 'tʷazer 'ɾatedʒɔɾaʃʲa 'ʃʷatʲa]
divinity-erg.plu.def dead-adj ! be.atrb this_thing 1P.Poss rule-nom-obl.s.def-gen time.
the gods are dead! It is the time of our rule!

~Lyra
Dew vornen. Dew van vornen a me negant hon!
God is dead. God remains dead, and we have killed him!

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Sis Maires gent marts, està dui ers am avellitz.
Taurian gods are dead, but we never loved them.
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.

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Hadden yr nyt aerien in Taura?
['a.ɾen ɛiɾ nɛit̪ 'aɛ̯.ɾin in 't̪au̯.ɾa]
Is there no worshipping in Taura?

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Ral reɽein mabo, sjai mas sabis dhin lûndoyon ajalavûm nûyadhin. Sigûrdo ma talon dhin lûndoyon vûrdhômis, fa ma ûgolo dhin jaratando Boyevaniasj, Boyeos Vabôso. Ôłandre Boyevaniasj dambirxe ellalon fa itemirxe rinsj sjaɽore, cûl namɽi rinsj Boyeos mersja yecjôna. Ayarex fa râligox maxe loyûndas.

You don't need a god when you have the greatest leader of the world. Sigûrdo is the name of the current leader and he is the son of Boyevania's founder Boyeos Vabôso. The Boyevanian people idolize this family and they go to temples every week to worship Boyeos. His deeds and his merits are unforgettable

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You don't need a god when you have the greatest leader of the world.
: Aʂvar kani :
:ohgodwhy:

Sáyumaso dhárya halutvíva. Sát so 'ʂvr ɳa narva kam
Great-est leader will certainly die. Therefore, he is not God but only a part.

Sivá tvam Dhári Shapádyam bhavasi.
Unless you're thinking of someone like Colonel Sheppard (from ME series)
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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Μαμ σεμλαντ ῥιβετ 'ραηκ αλ λεμμεν;
Mam semlant rhibet 'raēk al lemmen?
Mam semlant rhived 'raeg al lemmen?
/mɑm sɛ.mlant r̥i.vɛd ɣɾaɛ̯g ɑl lɛ.m:ɛn/
[mɑm sɛ.mlant ri.ved ɾaɛ̯g al lɛ.mːen]
What would a Greek orthography look like for my lang?

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ले रनितोंरें दहस् केल्ति।
Le ranitongreng dahas kelti.

PT hide-IRR-3S.INAN shape.T Celtic
It would hide the Celtic look.

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Ean wrote:Hadden yr nyt aerien in Taura?
['a.ɾen ɛiɾ nɛit̪ 'aɛ̯.ɾin in 't̪au̯.ɾa]
Is there no worshipping in Taura?
Niganç na s'astence.
It depends on the culture, really.

But natural spirits have always been more fashionable.
Un llapis mai dibuixa sense una mà.

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Γϝηρ. Τυγκ να ἁπαρ νυ. Μαν γϝεδικ, L'alphabetarium;
True. So it's a new taste. What do you see, L'alphabetarium?

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abaddamn wrote:
You don't need a god when you have the greatest leader of the world.
Sáyumaso dhárya halutvíva. Sát so 'ʂvr ɳa narva kam
Great-est leader will certainly die. Therefore, he is not God but only a part.
Minnoûl ômijor, fâga sabijor monɽitsanre. Âiba bralis, sjatarelon maxe ellalûndes. Daɽecjofilsa Boyevaniasj ma bec jovdâmav, cûno fûr ma xibe tinafilsa cjes.

Of course he will die but he will have offspring. You know, the conditions are dynastic. The Boyevanian mythology is very extensive so it's like an own religion.

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