Help your conlang fluency (2)

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masako wrote:na ke tlokua kue na aue
I want everyone to be like me.
My prend, y vols nais. Les opposts venen en necés alquand.
Trust me, you don't. Opposites are needed sometimes.

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Ean wrote:My prend, y vols nais. Les opposts venen en necés alquand.
Trust me, you don't. Opposites are needed sometimes.
ta ke tsentaha unya ka
Are you familiar with adynaton?

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Con el concept y sois, mas con el verb ne l'era mais.
I'm familiar with the concept but wasn't with the word.

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Jhango tiwedhä ūriskāṣ-thï dlu zo, go mākridau-thï.
That just looked like hyperbole, not adynaton.

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Astraios wrote:Mi hogira. Mi menya luśem mera, ćat ɔh mey, mi lai ɔa, ka ćanś mi lusem darga. Mi bajanj goź ka marći farime darg. Mi mari duza.
I'm happy. I think my language is pretty, today the weather was good, I'm eating olives, and tonight I'm seeing my friends. I walked in a forest and saw a honeybee on a leaf. I want honey.

Bonus points if you get the protolang. Chocolate cake if you can identify more than six of the historical roots.
Looks IE. Cannot tell whether you derived it from PIE or one of its daughters.
Roots:
mi - PIE *me "1sg. oblique"
ka - PIE *kwe "and"
darg, darga - PIE *derk' "see"
goź - some derivation of PIE *gwem-/gheH- "go"
mari, marći - PIE *meli(t)- "honey"
I could guess a few more, but I actually don't like chocolate cake. ;-)

Attu egun medun wolu.
also I honey.ACC.SG want.1SG.PRES
I want honey, too.

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Nait oramasun aarutauni soineks emmo suomikenenga nousemannen eljevissit kainasti.
/najt ˈo ɾa ma sun ˈaː ɾu ˌtaʊ ni ˈsɔj nɛks ˈemː ɔ ˈsu ɔ mi ˌgɛn ɛŋ a ˈnoʊ sɛ ˌmanː ɛn ˈɛl jɛ ˌvisː ɪt ˈkaj na sti/
I'm trying to make my conlang sound less like Finnish with the fewest modifications possible.

Raadaa aarutaurin ovę anu!
/ˈɾaː daː ˈaː ɾu ˌtaʊ ɾin ˈo væ ˈa nu/
The conlanger's work is never done!

Vuko poidisęts eja auvonnesja soi-nousemaųa rundumen serinsii ennut a-kitti?
/ˈvu gɔ ˈpɔj di ˌsæts ˈɛ ja ˈaʊ vɔnː ɛs ja ˈsɔj ˈnoʊ sɛ ˌma wa ˈɾun du ˌmɛn ˈsɛ ɾin siː ˈɛnː ut a gitː i/
Can anyone make some sound change suggestions based on these few short sentences?

Kaisti se kaudots suomikenen rouduųa a-ma ei eon kettahaki? :-D
/ˈkaj sti sɛ ˈkaʊ dɔts ˈsu ɔ mi ˌgɛn ɛn ˈɾoʊd wa a ma ɛj ʔɛ ɔn ˈkɛtː a ˌha gi/
Maybe it's not too Finnic at all and I'm just being a turkey? :-D

Eđđa! :)
/ˈɛðː a/
Thank you! :)
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itara ɖistua fim kjaʂārɛk bɛn rūmāʂ.
perhaps get.rid:IMP def.pl.abs differ:NMLZ def.sg.gen long:quality

Get rid of the length contrasts, perhaps?

(Apparently my brand-new abs/erg conlang becomes nom/acc in imperatives... go figure.)
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Raunus-verbia vuulid manna njęn ąŧaa sedomaųa.
/ˈɾaʊ nus ˈvɛɾ bi a ˈvuː lid ˈmanː a ˈnjæn ˈɑθaː ˈsɛ dɔ ˌma wa/
Imperatives took me nine years to figure out.

Naiks ma rakisa eestasti ah-anjeen no se engameje tejesen alaso tejesen.
/ˈnajks ma ˈɾa gi sa ˈɛs ta sti a ˈhan jɛn nɔ sɛ ˈɛŋ a ˌmɛ jɛ ˈtɛ jɛ sɛn ˈɑ la sɔ ˈtɛ jɛ sɛn/
Now I'm just being boring and having it be a 3rd person singular without the 3rd person ending.

Endajjaman ląąnen ęmissyt nousisalle visesti soida.
/ˈɛn da ˌjːa man ˈlɑːn ɛn ˈæ misː ʏt ˈnoʊ si ˌsalː ə ˈvi sɛ sti ˈsɔj da/
Removing length contrasts would certainly change the sound.

Sųa orisęhi paasti raadaa uųo soive enjasoinda aldissut! :?
/ˈswa ˈo ɾi ˌsæ hi ˈpaː sti ˈɾaː daː ˈu wɔ ˈsɔj vɛ ˈɛn ja ˈsɔjn da ˈal disː ut/
It might make a lot of work regarding resultant homonyms, though! :?
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hwhatting wrote:Looks IE. Cannot tell whether you derived it from PIE or one of its daughters.
Roots:
mi - PIE *me "1sg. oblique"
ka - PIE *kwe "and"
darg, darga - PIE *derk' "see"
goź - some derivation of PIE *gwem-/gheH- "go"
mari, marći - PIE *meli(t)- "honey"
I could guess a few more, but I actually don't like chocolate cake. ;-)

Attu egun medun wolu.
also I honey.ACC.SG want.1SG.PRES
I want honey, too.
Reget mag, IE ba. Ka randet banga.
Good job, it is IE. And your roots are correct. :)

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Allöna, ma naidi kapissu samaguųa "nouseđi leen lęęnda runduųat" :P Ąlihnahi njęn ąŧad śalen, sųa anduhho sę kulas loudammiusen!
Drat, I seem to have caught "perpetually changing basic elements"-itis :P Even being 9 years old doesn't protect Sjal from improvements!
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Sjal wrote:Allöna, ma naidi kapissu samaguųa "nouseđi leen lęęnda runduųat" :P Ąlihnahi njęn ąŧad śalen, sųa anduhho sę kulas loudammiusen!
Drat, I seem to have caught "perpetually changing basic elements"-itis :P Even being 9 years old doesn't protect Sjal from improvements!
ɽēdon ɛm irēr da vɛ̄l hūn
speak:PRES 2s.abs that.instr like bad be.PRES
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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It really is if you've written a relatively long conlang grammar (60+ pages). And you have to go back and correct all the examples sentences. Ask Jipí about it anytime.

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Serafín wrote:It really is if you've written a relatively long conlang grammar (60+ pages). And you have to go back and correct all the examples sentences. Ask Jipí about it anytime.
That's why I like zomp's suggestion of using loose-leaf paper in a binder. See LCK2.

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bē ʂapɔ̄dēɳu bɛn āwɛdit ond bɔsādɛva sfoɖa: kāʐ skyrtāv prētɛzaɬjɛ fim ɔlu ɣa lōmaktī ʐɛ kāʐ būlurɛk mȳse āwɛdɛ timū bē bɔsa. bjō māgjeɳɛtɛʂi umpixātɔn ānø̄l fim baru tāsvɛ̄ bɛn bosɬāɣ ɣa stylmī agērɛv.

the.abs story the.gen make:NMLZ 1s.dat conworld new: a.lat twelveyear together-come.pst the.pl.abs god REL party:VBLZ.inf and a.lat stagger:NMLZ drunk make.pst 3p.erg the.abs world. also with:help:NMLZ.ADVB toward:bright:VBLZ.pres this.erg the.pl.abs twist strange the.gen worldlaw REL succeed need:part

The creation myth in my new conworld: the gods got together to party one decade, and made the world in a drunken stupor. This also handily explains the bizarre contortions of physics necessary to make it work.
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Y onlaens mette hien en vrend ew myn cildhaed. Verstalde-he sau anterlye!
[ɛi̯ on.'laɛ̯ns 'me.ta in en bɾen.d aβ mɛi̯n 'cil.daɾ 'baɾ.θal.da.ha saw 'an.taɾ.li]
I came across a friend from my childhood recently. I imagined him so differently!

Disclaimer: the conlang is far from settled, this is just temptative
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masako wrote:
Serafín wrote:It really is if you've written a relatively long conlang grammar (60+ pages). And you have to go back and correct all the examples sentences. Ask Jipí about it anytime.
That's why I like zomp's suggestion of using loose-leaf paper in a binder. See LCK2.
But that doesn't change anything. :/ You still have to edit previous example sentences, just like when you use a computer.

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Serafín wrote:But that doesn't change anything. :/ You still have to edit previous example sentences, just like when you use a computer.
Yes, well, having a hard copy is always a good idea, and the purpose of the suggestion is so that pages/sections can be easily replaced/edited.

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Gralf'ife Whierd!
/gralf θai̯f ʍɪərd/
[ɣæɫ.fːɐɪ̯.fʍɪərd]
Happy New Year!
It was about time I changed this.

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Xhese serhe xhüsi sazï bejhi!
Happy New Year to you too!

La waxhëdha dohïnyathï sëpho, a ölüthi. IPA-si e rha za zaka dohï.
[ˈlawaǂʌǀa ˈdoχɲaǀ ˈʃʌʘo, a ˈølyǀ. ˈipejæʃ e ʁa sa ˈsaka ˈdoχ.]
I worked on dialects today, and grammar. The IPA below is from one dialect.

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Gabukika istī atarī phiriza saghī!
[gabukika istiː↓ a↑taɹiː↓ phi↑ɹiza sagʰiːː↓]
all.of.you-SUB-N good-adj new-adj year-in-N spend.time-SUBJ
Everyone have a good new year!

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Ąŧad longa a-ljena tena! En sedomaideni ei sorrema rusepoidųaks śalla :)
/ˈɑ θa ˈtɫɔŋ a ʔa ˈljɛ na ˈtɛ na | ˈɛn ˈsɛ dɔ ˌmaj dɛ ni ɛj ˈsɔr ɛ ma ˈɾu sɛ ˈpɔɲ dwaks ˈʃalː a/
Happy New Year! One of my resolutions is to become conversational in Shalian :)

Nohi ireisanuut enu muud nousemo lęęköd runduųa sees ;)
/ˈno hi ˈi ɾɛj sa ˌnuː ˌtɛ nu ˈmuːʔ ˈnoʊ sɛ ˌmɔ ˈlæː kœr ˈun dwa ˈsɛːs/
Now if only I can go for a few months without changing some basic part of it ;)
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na ketsuayek
[na: ke'tʃʷa:jek]
1SG resolution-PST.NEG
I made no resolution.

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Hwai pauk.
1 be.included
Me neither.

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Leen perien oramas luet toro sedomaųi õda mesessen lennuvoŧini. Sennutsi perien oramas let uųotsi :) Orę vaimiin leja immelejaniksi đola uvenusen missadamaųa loramehka "Ovattan..."
I always end up making a huge list of resolutions that I keep in my wallet. I do end up doing a lot of them :) It's better to make them guidelines instead of guarantees of failure like "I will never ...."
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Syalos, tam aiśvārac cāyam mam!
Sjal, that's always a good idea!

Ahaḿ vaca utāmut pharāmi viṣaḿ tayati narva.
I got one as well, but it involves another person.

Utaḿ ci so rāḿkșāś ca hridiryaś cethati das ser makhetrum!
It's for him to realise that he can be both innately strong and healthy!

Ahaḿ sedad usmaidat.
...As I already am that.

Vihando, 'renka dharati.
In other words, teach through action.
Talāṃ leya kalakena rāmah, saktalām peha leya bhūmena ca.
See a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower.
Omkāṃs tava sutvantayam pharo, 'naiṃ le' jeś ca.
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.

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