Help your conlang fluency (2)

[KathTheDragon]

Mamjanr krañama kha mamajane akga'af kha mamajane jâ kyayma kha 'asqhâ va bjankha.
I've only just created that language. I haven't worked out most of it yet.

[Matrix]

x̌uuex̌tatsiiahtoi kei b̌enah kuu kei nob̌ kf̌i uezeḷ
[χuweχtatsijaħtoj kej venaħ kuw kej nov kfi wezeɬ]
kill-1SG.NOM/3SG.ACC.F-3SG.DAT.F-3SG.LOC.N the.DAT woman with the.DAT nakedness the.LOC Spring
I killed her for the naked woman in Spring.

(Just beta testing a new language. Don't mind me.)

[Click]

Tàırısoáı po·mıpó, ko?
sentence-example REL=be_creepy || Q
A creepy example sentence, isn't it?

[Thry]

Κόμω είαμης ιμπωρτάρνους περ σακριφίζιους α υνα φήμνα νύδα.
How could we mind sacrifices to a naked woman.

[Hallow XIII]

Banryeoi.
Succubi.

[Thry]

Ας μειλώρης δαιμώνιας.
The best of demons.

Σουρτού ην τρίους ων ιγκύβους.
Especially in threesomes with incubi.

[GrinningManiac]

Rumpungu-i-sawa tingilay
Nidyamazamanba sumaraway
Diryimaymaza patyibhi asingilay
Pamungmu kakawa 'hay
Yababhardti nga gamityimi palawanway
rumpʰuŋu i saβa tʰiŋilai
niʤamatsamanɓa sumaraβai
ɖirjimaimatsa pʰaʧʰibi ɑsiŋilai
pʰamuŋmu kʰakʰaβa ʔʰai
jaɓabaɽɖi ŋa gamiʧʰimi pʰalaβamβai
Tall grasses of oasis lands
Once cultivated by masterly hands
Now buried under foreign sands
Shall be reclaimed, the king commands
March ye, heroes, unto northern lands

[Kereb]

I'll revive my thread on Txeumé soon to give a more detailed explanation

e nīkeb ya paksoh. anaka`ip i tsutsān `an bul i paksu` i chichi`tsuk hwān.
please do that. I'd like to understand what that structure is doing.

[GrinningManiac]

Lama lalyu Hantu Idyaw Bidukki kangəpantay'a ba'hang garang
kwələng-lyadhku. Pakapugantay'a ba lyadh parataykapayilay ka dam dyabangzi.
Ma pizi itu dyabang nga-nga dyalantay Aydaw-Lidit Kaybaki.
tyasawm Kayba itu Iwu ka da dukanaygugagukim dawa
ka Nyatawi ay ama Idyaw Biduk kawantay'a garang.
"Ukayanmaza saywə dhaya ba garang di gwangtay'ay"
Dya tyasawm Kayba imaura kakubantaymaza.
A long time ago the god Idyaw Biduk scooped up with a shell
the earth of a riverbed. He spread this earth around and gathered it into a mountain.
Whence that mountain came the Sky-King Kayba
King Kayba, father of Iwu, progenitor and father
of the Nyatawi people, to whom Ijo Biduk gave the shell.
"you shall possess all the lands within this shell"
And so in this manner King Kayba fashioned the lands of Maura

[Lyhoko Leaci]

A pair of example sentences in my Zukish grammar, from the section on noun incorporation and locative prefixes:

Jammrcëjamahrë.
in-mansion-girl-study-3.PST
He stalked a girl in the mansion.

Lëmmrcërümmarencehseme.
from-mansion-though-door-run-3.PST
She ran from the mansion though the door.

There's nothing about killing anywhere in the grammar that I know about, but there are a couple other example sentences about stalking...

(There are plenty of sentences that don't have such frighteningly long verbs)

Hmm...
Chemcdzijanlecgägnmüslaacuë.
3.F-BENE-ATTR-woman-naked-during-Spring-kill-1.PST
I killed her for the naked woman in Spring.

Well, that didn't help matters...

The Zukish word for naked is pronounced [lɛʧ]. Odd.

[GrinningManiac]

How would you pronounce "Chemcdzijanlecgägnmüslaacuë"?

[R.Rusanov]

Jętěrǫpĭtě utĭlĭsarě ritmǫ jętěr lęgas čě jabęt kalĭtates de vokalię, rago.
Stop using rhyme in languages that have vowel qualities, please

[Lyhoko Leaci]

How would you pronounce "Chemcdzijanlecgägnmüslaacuë"?

[ˈʧɛː.m̩ʧ.ˌʣɪ.ʤan.ˌlɛʧ.ge.ˌgn̩.mjus.ˌla.ʔa.ˌʧu.ʔi]

[Kereb]

Jętěrǫpĭtě utĭlĭsarě ritmǫ jętěr lęgas čě jabęt kalĭtates de vokalię, rago.
Stop using rhyme in languages that have vowel qualities, please

kik su`
lol wut

[Nortaneous]

tkptkftp kptkpt
ktpftkst kfkpt
fskt k stfpkpt
stkxtptsfktkpt
rhyme is only acceptable in languages without vowel qualities? got it.

[R.Rusanov]

I mean that when you have a language with such things as vowel length and moras and tones, rhyme is almost never found in natural languages. Rhyme is pretty much a modern phenomenon and maladapted to any language that is not 1. synthetic (rhymes are too easy and thus unremarkable in langs where the endings are all the same) and 2. simple-vowelled

[Kereb]

Rhyme is pretty much a modern phenomenon and maladapted to any language that is not 1. synthetic (rhymes are too easy and thus unremarkable in langs where the endings are all the same) and 2. simple-vowelled

dropping out of conlang here
you don't know what you're talking about.

Rhyme -- specifically end rhyme -- is attested in English poetry since as long as English has been English, as well as in classical Chinese, Arabic and Sanskrit poetry. So there goes every single thing you just said about "modern" or "simple-vowelled (ie no length or tone)" and even "synthetic".

[GrinningManiac]

Wait is he talking about my rhymes?

[finlay]

Rhyme is pretty much a modern phenomenon and maladapted to any language that is not 1. synthetic (rhymes are too easy and thus unremarkable in langs where the endings are all the same) and 2. simple-vowelled

dropping out of conlang here
you don't know what you're talking about.

Rhyme -- specifically end rhyme -- is attested in English poetry since as long as English has been English, as well as in classical Chinese, Arabic and Sanskrit poetry. So there goes every single thing you just said about "modern" or "simple-vowelled (ie no length or tone)" and even "synthetic".

and you can find that out by going to wikipedia. not difficult. actually i wrote a very similar reply before but i must have forgotten to post it...

[WeepingElf]

Also, rhymes in Classical Chinese poetry are of great value to Chinese historical linguistics, as they contain rich information on the codas in Old Chinese that have greatly withered in the modern dialects.

[Jipí]

Ang yomaay takanena ya Pari kayvo pandahaya naa. Le silvnang dabas enon Epel.
AT exist-1SG.T currently LOC Paris with family-LOC 1SG.GEN. PT.INAN see-1PL.A today tower.T Eiffel.
I'm in Paris with my family at the moment. We saw the Eiffel tower today.



Adareng matikan-ikan, naarya eng yomara naynay sitemas nay seyaranley terpasya pang.
that-A.INAN hot=very, but AT.INAN exist-3SG.INAN as.well lightning-P and rain-P.INAN noon-LOC past.
It is very hot, but there also was lightning and rain in the afternoon.

[Thry]

Furen meses des i d'última vei plúvia.
[fuːn mes də.zi ˈdul.tim fi pluj]
It's been months since I last saw rain.

[Shinali Sishi]

Deuga [anila] kege li suima. Tsam-deuga sun li tsuda, rin miyao li rel. Bensa gaga li rel, anila tsam gun hele li tsuda. Kege-wa nita li alana!
weather [thing] dry be decade. Thunder/lightning-weather season be month, but wet be no. Rain much be no, thing lightning/thunder and wind be month. Dry-place thirsty be time.
The weather's been dry for decades. This month is monsoon/storm season, but it hasn't been wet. It hasn't been raining much, the weather's (just) thunder, lightning and wind. The desert is always thirsty!

[Click]

Po aró ko·so?
[pᵝaɽo | ↗ koso]
NSP=live Q-place
Where do you live?

[Shinali Sishi]

Po aró ko·so?
[pᵝaɽo | ↗ koso]
NSP=live Q-place
Where do you live?

Aritsona wa li.
Arizona place be.
In Arizona.