Help your conlang fluency (2)

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

Dē sliggtsgauer.
The pessimist.

[k1234567890y]

Dē sliggtsgauer.
The pessimist.

Lonmai Luna(romanization):

maken alen "The pessimist"?
who.DEF PND "The pessimist"?
Who is "The pessimist"?

[kusuri]

Mie penser, le perpre Nortaneous d'il on apeler.
I think the person Nortaneous ACC-3 4 call
[mi: pansa: lu pa:pa na:tanu:s ti lu napala: ]
Nort, I think.

"Inne mortessre une rue zouer, l'eptre-vie."
to.S.DEF.F die-NMLZ S.IND.F street go S.DEF-big.thing-life
[in: mautas un lu: tsu lamtapi:]
"Life is a road leading to death."

[k1234567890y]

Mie penser, le perpre Nortaneous d'il on apeler.
I think the person Nortaneous ACC-3 4 call
[mi: pansa: lu pa:pa na:tanu:s ti lu napala: ]
Nort, I think.

Urban Basanawa:
Text: 吾考えんくそう
Text(spaced): 吾　考えんく　そう
Pronunciation: /ɪk dɛnk so:/
Romanization: ik denk so
English Translation: I think so

"Inne mortessre une rue zouer, l'eptre-vie."
to.S.DEF.F die-NMLZ S.IND.F street go S.DEF-big.thing-life
[in: mautas un lu: tsu lamtapi:]
"Life is a road leading to death."

Urban Basanawa:
Text: やあ、人生いす一ん路導だんとと死、あく如す司馬遷言かﾟと、だ死ふぉんそうむ人すいす重ゐﾟがるだんだ泰山、又んだ死ふぉんそうむ他る人すいす軽たるだん一ん鴻毛
Text(spaced): やあ、　人生　いす　一ん　路　導だん　と　死、　あく　如す　司馬遷　言かﾟと、　だ　死　ふぉん　そうむ　人す　いす　重ゐﾟがる　だん　だ　泰山、　又ん　だ　死　ふぉん　そうむ　他る　人す　いす　軽たる　だん　一ん　鴻毛
Pronunciation: /ja: 'laɪf ɪs ɛn 'wɛç 'li:dənt tə 'du:t ak as 'ʃiba'sen 'saxt də 'du:t fɔn 'so:m 'mans ɪs 'he:vigər dan də 'taɪzan ɛn də 'du:t fɔn 'so:m 'ɔdər 'mans ɪs 'laɪçtər dan ɛn 'ko:mo:/
Romanization: ya, life is en weg leedend to dood, ak as Shiba-Sen sagd, de dood fon some mans is heviger dan de Taidzan, en de dood fon some odder mans is laichter dn en kowmow
English Translation: yes, life is a road leading to death, but as Sima Qian said, the death of some people is heavier than the Mountain Tai, and the death of some other people is lighter than a "Kowmow"(goose feather).

[Sevly]

Ahu dou, uttest mu, hatto ti utto ti deu si det?
Ah, but is it better for your death to be skinny or fat?

[k1234567890y]

Ahu dou, uttest mu, hatto ti utto ti deu si det?
Ah, but is it better for your death to be skinny or fat?

Urban Basanawa:
Text: 汝決いいざすと、又ん、だ言ぎんﾟ「だ死ふぉんそうむ人すいす重ゐﾟがるだんだ泰山、又んだ死ふぉんそうむ他る人すいす軽たるだん一ん鴻毛」いす一ん比喩、彼と意んとだ重要性ふぉんだ死ふぉん異く人すいす異く。
Text(spaced): 汝　決いいざすと、　又ん、　だ　言ぎんﾟ「　だ　死　ふぉん　そうむ　人す　いす　重ゐﾟがる　だん　だ　泰山、　又ん　だ　死　ふぉん　そうむ　他る　人す　いす　軽たる　だん　一ん　鴻毛」　いす　一ん　比喩、　彼と　意んと　だ　重要性　ふぉん　だ　死　ふぉん　異く　人す　いす　異く。
Pronunciation: /dʊ bə'ki:zəst ʊn də 'sagɪŋ də 'du:t fɔn 'so:m 'mans ɪs 'he:vigər dan də 'taɪzan ɛn də 'du:t fɔn 'so:m 'ɔdər 'mans ɪs 'laɪçtər dan ɛn 'ko:mo: ɪs ɛn 'hɪjʊ ɪt 'mi:nt dat də dʒu:'jo:se: fɔn də 'du:t fɔn ʊngə'laik 'mans ɪs ʊngə'laik/
Romanization: du bekeesest, un de sagging "de dood fon some mans is heviger dan de Taidzan, en de dood fon some odder mans is laichter dn en kowmow" is en hiyu, it meent dat de djuuyowsei fon de dood fon ungelike mans is ungelike.
English Translation: you decide, and the saying "the death of some people is heavier than the Mountain Tai, and the death of some other people is lighter than a "Kowmow"." is a metaphor, it means the importance of the death of different people is different.

Urban Basanawa:
Text: もういい
Text(spaced): もういい
Pronunciation: /mo:(j)i:/
Romanization: moii
English Translation: ok, that's enough

[CatDoom]

Nyazè xé dobă gi nò ĕgràù. Jidrahó lo c’ĕ gàù bĕp’o jicáb ĕdŏ cè, q’e fe zéb xégh zégid jĭ jidlolŏ fi hnyà bĕp’o jihyebáíma ĕdŏ.
[ɲad̪z̪êː ɕěː t̪obǎ ki nôː əʀɔ̂ː || tɕiɖahǒː lo t̪s̪'ě kɔ̂ː pəp'o tɕit̪s̪ʰǎb əd̪ǒ t̪s̪ʰêː | tɕ'e fe t̪s̪ěp̚ ɕěq̚ t̪s̪ěgit̚ tɕǐ tɕiɮ̪ǒ fi ɲ̊âː pəp'o tɕij̊ebɛ̌ːma əd̪ǒ]

1S=believe CNSTR/idea 3C.IN=resemble DEF.AN ocean life. 3S.AN=POT-navigate to.3 any place REL.IN 3S.IN=choose 3SGV.IN person, but during CNSTR/event finish CNSTR/wandering 3S.AN 3S.AN=IMP-come.to.3 DEF.IN harbor REL 3S.AN=PST-go.from.3-PFV 3SGV.IN

I believe that life is like the ocean. A person can navigate to any destination he chooses, but when his wanderings are finished he must return to the harbor from which he had departed.

[Cedh]

Nyazè xé dobă gi nò ĕgràù. Jidrahó lo c’ĕ gàù bĕp’o jicáb ĕdŏ cè, q’e fe zéb xégh zégid jĭ jidlolŏ fi hnyà bĕp’o jihyebáíma ĕdŏ.

Kec Dún, dźéc tenc mun zò zào ki sei (na yao nú sei gubwá) do be Hróc Tè Źuhnò lá sei glan!
NAME NAME, desired SUB 2SG put add this words (and also other words ATTR/similar) come.to.3I facts Rrób Tè Jĕhnò build words ATTR/explain
CatDoom, you should add this quote (and similar ones too) to the Rrób Tè Jĕhnò grammar page as an example!

[Dewrad]

Raphal dzgoleri. Khre shlya dzgoleri. Lqorxal taxlera dzbas.
Numbers are shit. Everything is shit. Welcome to hell.

Ozarei soldrà ozar ozar ozar...
Haters gonna hate hate hate...

[CatDoom]

Kec Dún, dźéc tenc mun zò zào ki sei (na yao nú sei gubwá) do be Hróc Tè Źuhnò lá sei glan!
NAME NAME, desired SUB 2SG put add this words (and also other words ATTR/similar) come.to.3I facts Rrób Tè Jĕhnò build words ATTR/explain
CatDoom, you should add this quote (and similar ones too) to the Rrób Tè Jĕhnò grammar page as an example!

[That's a good idea, though I'll have to take some time to make sure I actually got all of the fiddly little grammatical details right. Speaking of which, I got the syntax wrong in one of the clauses; the verb for "to navigate" is intransitive, so the subject should come first and the clitic pronoun is unnecessary. Also, I assigned stress incorrectly in the derived noun for "wandering(s)".]

Nyazè xé dobă gi nò ĕgràù. Cè drahó lo c’ĕ gàù bĕp’o jicáb ĕdŏ, q’e fe zéb xégh zĕgíd jĭ jidlolŏ fi hnyà bĕp’o jihyebáíma ĕdŏ.

1S=believe CNSTR/idea 3C.IN=resemble DEF.AN ocean life. person POT-navigate to.3 any place REL.IN 3S.IN=choose 3SGV.IN, but during CNSTR/event finish CNSTR/wandering 3S.AN 3S.AN=IMP-come.to.3 DEF.IN harbor REL 3S.AN=PST-go.from.3-PFV 3SGV.IN

[k1234567890y]

[That's a good idea, though I'll have to take some time to make sure I actually got all of the fiddly little grammatical details right. Speaking of which, I got the syntax wrong in one of the clauses; the verb for "to navigate" is intransitive, so the subject should come first and the clitic pronoun is unnecessary. Also, I assigned stress incorrectly in the derived noun for "wandering(s)".]

Nyazè xé dobă gi nò ĕgràù. Cè drahó lo c’ĕ gàù bĕp’o jicáb ĕdŏ, q’e fe zéb xégh zĕgíd jĭ jidlolŏ fi hnyà bĕp’o jihyebáíma ĕdŏ.

1S=believe CNSTR/idea 3C.IN=resemble DEF.AN ocean life. person POT-navigate to.3 any place REL.IN 3S.IN=choose 3SGV.IN, but during CNSTR/event finish CNSTR/wandering 3S.AN 3S.AN=IMP-come.to.3 DEF.IN harbor REL 3S.AN=PST-go.from.3-PFV 3SGV.IN

Lonmai Luna(Romanization):
yer des dal gemata
DISTRIBUTIVE every person do.something.wrong(interlinear)
/jéɹ dés dál gematá/
To err is human/errare humanum est(English/Latin translation)

Raphal dzgoleri. Khre shlya dzgoleri. Lqorxal taxlera dzbas.
Numbers are shit. Everything is shit. Welcome to hell.

Ozarei soldrà ozar ozar ozar...
Haters gonna hate hate hate...

Lonmai Luna(Romanization):
hanta hir dala modo malsatik, hanta hir dala barehefeptik rima, malsatik bele barehefeptik.
be.possible COMP 3.SG NEG hate-er, be.possible COMP 3.SG be.pessimistic-er at.most, hate-er be.different.from be.pessimistic-er(interlinear)
/hantá híɹ dalá modó malsatík hantá dalá baɹehefeptík rimá malsatík belé baɹehefeptík/
maybe he is not a hater, maybe he is only a pessimist, haters are different from pessimists.(English translation)

[k1234567890y]

Lonmai Luna(romanization):



ceklor hi-les wak
/ʃeklóɹ hilés wák/
this.PRON one-CLF wug(interlinear)
This is a wug



bais eso dehi hi-les, eso ta-les los wak, eso ta-les wak
/báis esó dehí hilés esó talés los wák, esó talés wák/
now exist other one-CLS exist two-CLF exist two-CLF wug(interlinear)
Now there is another one, there are two of them, there are two wugs.


ceklor hala wak!
/ʃeklóɹ halá wák/
this.PRON PL wug(interlinear)
These are wugs!

se hi-les dal imfar
/se hilés dál imfáɹ/
1.SG one-CLF person be.boring(interlinear)
I am a boring person....

itok se ditis ili alen Click imer alen CBB polta nor-dala
/itók se ditís ili alén klik imer alén sibibi polta nóɹdalá/
and 1.SG be.thankful towards PND Click because.of picture-3.SG(interlinear)
and I think to Click of CBB for his picture!

[jal]

/ʃeklóɹ hilés wák/

A wo ting dem dis asen a? Dem in no standa IPA.
What are those accents? They aren't standard IPA.

I am a boring person....

Fo ray? Mi in redi notis. Way yu tok dis?
Really? I hadn't noticed. Why are you saying this?

and I think to Click of CBB for his picture!

Dis in no Inggles. A wo yu min?
This isn't English. What do you mean?


JAL

[k1234567890y]

いすた爾い語いす一んクレオール語ふぉん英語？Jal
/ɪsta daɪ 'basa ɛn 'krɛ.o:l 'basa fɔn 'e:gɔ dʒal/
is-it-dat dy basa is en kreowl Basa fon Eigo? Jal(romanization)
is your language an English creole? Jal.

/ʃeklóɹ hilés wák/

A wo ting dem dis asen a? Dem in no standa IPA.
What are those accents? They aren't standard IPA.

Urban Basanawa:
彼等せぃんど標すふぉる高低アクセントすひいる、いすた吾しゃるﾟ変だんだ標す？
/si: sɪnt də 'marks fɔr 'ko:te: 'aksɛnts hi:r ɪsta ɪk 'ʃal 'wɛndən də 'marks/
sie sind marks for Kowtei Aksents hier. is-it-dat ik shall wenden de marks?(Romanization)
They are marks for Pitch Accents here, should I change the marks?

I am a boring person....

Fo ray? Mi in redi notis. Way yu tok dis?
Really? I hadn't noticed. Why are you saying this?

Urban Basanawa:
我い考あかﾟとすと我い己
/maɪ gə'daxts tə maɪ'sɛlf/
my gedachts to myself
My thoughts towards myself

いすた彼いすつまらないと話かん関るワッガス？
/ɪsta ɪt ɪs tsʊra'maraɪ tə 'talkən 'ɔvər 'wagəs/
is-it-dat it is tzuramarai to talken over waggas?(romanization)
is it boring to talk about wugs?

and I think to Click of CBB for his picture!

Dis in no Inggles. A wo yu min?
This isn't English. What do you mean?

*think > thank

Urban Basanawa:
吾作かど一ん錯誤、ごめんなさい。
/ɪk mɑ:kt ɛn sa'kʊgɔ gɔmɛn'nasaɪ/
ik maked en sakugo, gomen-nasai.(Romanization)
I made a mistake, sorry.

[Imralu]

/ʃeklóɹ hilés wák/

A wo ting dem dis asen a? Dem in no standa IPA.
What are those accents? They aren't standard IPA.

Yes they are. /é/ is the same as /e˦/.

[jal]

Yes they are. /é/ is the same as /e˦/.

Oops, my bad!

is your language an English creole?

Ye, im a Karibyan Inggles Kweol.
Yes, it's a Caribbean English Creole.


JAL

[Imralu]

Yes they are. /é/ is the same as /e˦/.

Oops, my bad!

[/quote]
Haha, I'm pretty sure I was using them too, back in the day when our dudes were talking to each other (Jego and ... don't even remember my guy's name right now). It even looked more or less the same because Ngolu has high tone on almost every final syllable ... and you never noticed. *dies a little inside*

[jal]

Haha, I'm pretty sure I was using them too, back in the day when our dudes were talking to each other (Jego and ... don't even remember my guy's name right now).

Yu in memba di bos Jawu, di Balu? Jego mek rap bo im :).
You don't recall the mighty Jahu, the Balu? Jego made a rap about him :).

It even looked more or less the same because Ngolu has high tone on almost every final syllable ... and you never noticed. *dies a little inside*

Ye, mi in se way mi fogot, o way mi in notis. *kwac besa*
Yeah, I don't know why I forgot, or why I didn't notcie. *scratches head*

Sajiwa pikin jok:
Wo yu kol as im bay ting? cop as!
Sajiwan children's joke:
What do you call a donkey that bites? An axe! ["as" is both "donkey" and "axe"; a normal axe would be a "cop as", "chopping axe"; "bay" means both "bite" and "buy"; "cop" means both "shop" and "chop"]

EDIT: added "ting" after "bay", as "bay" is likely an obligatory transitive verb (and without it, it'd read as "a donkey that's bitten").


JAL

[Nortaneous]

Nchæ ninga gœ mnyìḍain, nchæ gœ ḍᵫḍain? X̣i, x̣i, nè x̣òḍain.
[ⁿcʰa niŋɔ kɤ mɲḭɗɔn, ⁿcʰa kɤ ɗɯɗɔn | ʄi, ʄi, nḛ ʄo̰ɗɔn]
A hater? A pessimist? No, no, I'm a realist.

...how transparent do I want this to be? the alternative is:
Ncha nenga ge mcitany, ncha ge rgatany? Ti, ti, nce chcotany.

[Sevly]

Deren mu re dou, tete avettiis ti kuueki sie dert :=)
I like the second one, but that might just be the jabbering of a savage :=)

[k1234567890y]

Nchæ ninga gœ mnyìḍain, nchæ gœ ḍᵫḍain? X̣i, x̣i, nè x̣òḍain.
[ⁿcʰa niŋɔ kɤ mɲḭɗɔn, ⁿcʰa kɤ ɗɯɗɔn | ʄi, ʄi, nḛ ʄo̰ɗɔn]
A hater? A pessimist? No, no, I'm a realist.

...how transparent do I want this to be? the alternative is:
Ncha nenga ge mcitany, ncha ge rgatany? Ti, ti, nce chcotany.

Lonmai Luna(romanization):
se din alor. se ditis ili kat polta hir kat luhom se alor
1.SG know that.PRON. 1.SG be.thankful to/towards 2.SG because.of COMP 2.SG tell 1.SG that.NEUT.PRON(interlinear)
I knew that. thank you for telling me that.

itok, se gaiferki lude de ili yola-se mal modo tikan daladekapluna ik alen Lonmai Luna. alen Lonmai Luna hi-les los daladekapluna daplo deki imon se
and 1.SG start say INDEF.PRON towards.to friend-1.SG REL NEG make conlang using PND Lonmai Luna. PND Lonmai Luna one-CLF of conlang be.complete most of.INALIENABLE 1.SG(interlinear)
Also I started to say something to my friends who don't make conlangs in Lonmai Luna. Lonmai Luna is one of my most complete conlangs.

[Imralu]

Ye, mi in se way mi fogot, o way mi in notis. *kwac besa*
Yeah, I don't know why I forgot, or why I didn't notcie. *scratches head*

Don't feel bad. I forgot my character's name ...

Haha, I'm pretty sure I was using them too, back in the day when our dudes were talking to each other (Jego and ... don't even remember my guy's name right now).

Yu in memba di bos Jawu, di Balu? Jego mek rap bo im .
You don't recall the mighty Jahu, the Balu? Jego made a rap about him .

A, ahe! Hua kka mui tiaga tazu nu.
ah, yes | GNOM not able remember skillful NOM.1s.ICS
Ah, yeah. My memory's pretty bad.

Ttie ila leje Jahu xes egue xevuas eje xiia kuai.
just speak COM.3s.DEF.ANIM.ACS Jahu and again show DAT.3s.DEF.ANIM.ACS ACC.3s.DEF.INAN-that2 string
I just spoke to Jahu and showed him this thread again.

Ho ...
QUOT
He said ...

Mos a uáku?
what NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC wug
What's a wug?

Ha buia utaia?
Q small.animal earth
Is it a bug that lives on Earth?

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

Hyē Djahú!* Hu ga dē oss ji?
[ˈhɛɪ̯ɛ ˈdjaːhu | ˈhyː ˈɣaːdɔsːˌɪ]
Hey Jahu! How are you?

Dē byltiss oss "waggs" lygt oss mi mirr oss voggs oss oss zettpots.
[dɛ ˈbɛɪ̯ltɪsː ɔ̆sːˈʋɑxːs ˈlɛɪ̯xt s̩ ˈmi ˈmɪrː z̩ː ˈvɔxːs s̩ z̩ ˈzɛtːpots]
Those pictures of "wugs" look more like birds than like bugs to me.

*Did I transliterate that right?

[Imralu]

ˈdjaːhu
*Did I transliterate that right?

[ʒàhú]

Ha [ʒ] xua ilia guui?
Q [ʒ] LOC.3s.DEF.INAN language COP-GEN.2s.ICS
Do you have [ʒ] in your language?

Hyē Djahú!* Hu ga dē oss ji?
[ˈhɛɪ̯ɛ ˈdjaːhu | ˈhyː ˈɣaːdɔsːˌɪ]
Hey Jahu! How are you?

Teua. Tes eni. Mie mos eui?
thank | good DAT.1s.ICS | but what DAT.2s.ICS
I'm fine thanks. How about yourself?

Dē byltiss oss "waggs" lygt oss mi mirr oss voggs oss oss zettpots.
[dɛ ˈbɛɪ̯ltɪsː ɔ̆sːˈʋɑxːs ˈlɛɪ̯xt s̩ ˈmi ˈmɪrː z̩ː ˈvɔxːs s̩ z̩ ˈzɛtːpots]
Those pictures of "wugs" look more like birds than like bugs to me.

Mie niala iaras ala.
but wing LOC.3p.NSPC.INAN bird
But birds have wings.

[Dē Graut Bʉr]

ˈdjaːhu
*Did I transliterate that right?

[ʒàhú]

Dʉs dē iss "Zjahú".
[ˈdœːz ˈdɛsː ˈʒaːhu]
So it's "Zjahú".

Ha [ʒ] xua ilia guui?
Q [ʒ] LOC.3s.DEF.INAN language COP-GEN.2s.ICS
Do you have [ʒ] in your language?

No, inn oss ygiss worrts zyt dē dē nikkt. Inn vrimmig worrts sgryf wi dē solls <zj>.
[ˈnoː | ɪnː s̩ː ˈɛɪ̯ɣɪzː ʋɔrːdz ˈzɛɪ̯dɛdː ˌnɪkːt | ɪnː ˈvrɪmːiɣ ʋɔrːts ˌsxrɛɪ̯fʏtːsɔlːz zɛ jiː]
No, in native words we don't. In foreign words we write it as <zj>.

Hyē Djahú!* Hu ga dē oss ji?
[ˈhɛɪ̯ɛ ˈdjaːhu | ˈhyː ˈɣaːdɔsːˌɪ]
Hey Jahu! How are you?

Teua. Tes eni. Mie mos eui?
thank | good DAT.1s.ICS | but what DAT.2s.ICS
I'm fine thanks. How about yourself?

Aug gut!
[ˈaʊ̯ɣ ɣyːt]
I'm also fine!

Dē byltiss oss "waggs" lygt oss mi mirr oss voggs oss oss zettpots.
[dɛ ˈbɛɪ̯ltɪsː ɔ̆sːˈʋɑxːs ˈlɛɪ̯xt s̩ ˈmi ˈmɪrː z̩ː ˈvɔxːs s̩ z̩ ˈzɛtːpots]
Those pictures of "wugs" look more like birds than like bugs to me.

Mie niala iaras ala.
but wing LOC.3p.NSPC.INAN bird
But birds have wings.

Mar zettpots heppt zett pots. Darross nam wi zess "zett-pots" oss.
[maːr ˈzɛtːpots hɛpːt ˈzɛtː ˈpoːts | ˈdɑrːɔsː ˈnaːmʏsː ˈzɛtːpots ɔ̆sː]
But bugs have six legs. That's why we call them "six-legs".