Help your conlang fluency (2)

[jal]

it seems that different languages have different ways to categorize things...

For me, it's one of the most fun ... funnest ... things about making languages.

It a langwic o di kolca donsay di langwic, wo ting ohganays dem ting? Fo oda tok, it a langwic im bos pon kolca, o kolca im bos pon langwic? Di olda taym Whorfian as.
Is it language or the culture underlying the language which organizes things? In other words, is it language that controls culture, or culture that controls language? The eternal Whorfian question.


JAL

[Imralu]

it seems that different languages have different ways to categorize things...

For me, it's one of the most fun ... funnest ... things about making languages.

It a langwic o di kolca donsay di langwic, wo ting ohganays dem ting? Fo oda tok, it a langwic im bos pon kolca, o kolca im bos pon langwic? Di olda taym Whorfian as.
Is it language or the culture underlying the language which organizes things? In other words, is it language that controls culture, or culture that controls language? The eternal Whorfian question.

Ttu eni zuo kka mue toba i xi.
believed DAT.1s.ICS NOM.C NEG able answer NOM.3s.NSPC.ANIM ACC.3s.DEF.INAN
I don't think anyone can answer that.

Di olda taym Whorfian as.
The eternal Whorfian question.

I know as comes from ask, but it reminds me of the Tok Pisin word as. One of the first sentences I learnt in Tok Pisin was God em i as bilong olgeta samting ... translating back into English cognates, that's "God him is(?) arse belong all-together something" and means "God is the cause of all things."

[Lambuzhao]

Mar zettpots heppt zett pots. Darross nam wi zess "zett-pots" oss.
[maːr ˈzɛtːpots hɛpːt ˈzɛtː ˈpoːts | ˈdɑrːɔsː ˈnaːmʏsː ˈzɛtːpots ɔ̆sː]
But bugs have six legs. That's why we call them "six-legs".

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Sadrås

haffe yœs Hïreteaban sis Fïce, ob nejrin Bicge njnöven.
Have-PRS DEF.N.NOM.PL <Chronophage><PL> six foot<PL>OBJ CNJ NEG=be-PL bug<PL> NEG.INDEF.INAN
Chronophages also have six legs, but are not insects.


Ja, cnaj wœ dåt gaj vrötr hjndtirür.
AFFIRM know<PRS>=1SG.NOM well REL go<PRS>=1SG.NOM ADV behind<COMPAR>
Yeah, I kno I'm way behind.

[Imralu]

Hïreteaban
Chronophages

Ha kaus uhu?
Time eaters?

[Lambuzhao]

Ha kaus uhu!
Eaters of Time!


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[Imralu]

Ha kaus uhu!
Eaters of Time!

[Kaenif]

Kaus uhu!
Eaters of Time!


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Matuŋ upuyetàl gàu a ohe, xââ gau kwíŋau suŋezö.
[matuŋː upuˈjɛtɜl ɡɜuːxɛ | ɣɘːː ɡau ˌkβ̞iːŋau ˈsuŋɛ̆zœ]
matuŋ upu-yet-àl gàu a ohe xà gau kwí-ŋau suŋ-ezö
apparently time-eat-ERG.NZ cool COP DUB FILLER neck what-like own.ABIL-if
These chronophages look kinda cool, uh, if they had a neck or something.

(so this is a failed pun)

[jal]

Pwaya de di mi bahsde. Mi dem wok Di Ayop Veluwe, im u Nacional Pahk moles foten kilometa pah mi dem ste. It ja byutifu de, di son ja cayn. Mi dem ja ray bayk swu di pahk (olinol moles tuten kilometa), swel fi yong dota (im gona af fay ye wen swi wik). It ja nays nays de.

Yesterday was my birthday. Me and my family went to the High Veluwe, which is a National Park about fourty kilometers from where we live. It was a beautiful day, the sun was shining. We rode bicycles through the park (together about twenty kilometers), even our youngest daughter (who turns five in three weeks). It was a very nice day.


JAL

[k1234567890y]

Lonmai Luna:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-8_suHwEM

ceklor nep-nep!
this.PRON be.cute-REDUP
This is very cute!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOXS_Giojgc

ceklor bokeri!
this.PRON be.classical
This is classical!

Pwaya de di mi bahsde. Mi dem wok Di Ayop Veluwe, im u Nacional Pahk moles foten kilometa pah mi dem ste. It ja byutifu de, di son ja cayn. Mi dem ja ray bayk swu di pahk (olinol moles tuten kilometa), swel fi yong dota (im gona af fay ye wen swi wik). It ja nays nays de.

Yesterday was my birthday. Me and my family went to the High Veluwe, which is a National Park about fourty kilometers from where we live. It was a beautiful day, the sun was shining. We rode bicycles through the park (together about twenty kilometers), even our youngest daughter (who turns five in three weeks). It was a very nice day.


JAL

Lonmai Luna:
Haiye polta partafam on imon kati!
Happy Birthday!

[Imralu]

E ti xaba xu kebuttia guui evu Jala!
IMP PRF make.happy NOM.3s.DEF.INAN birthday COP-GEN.2s.ICS VOC.2s.ICS Jal
I hope you had a happy birthday, Jal!

Tiaku zeuza nu.
PRF-today make.music NOM.1s.ICS
I made music today.

Ttia ko bajo.
a.little[DEGREE] similar insane
It's a bit crazy.

Ho Off Kilter xua.
QUOT off kilter LOC.3s.DEF.INAN
Its name is "Off Kilter".

Xa ziki xu ligki
inside sig NOM.3s.DEF.INAN link
The link is in my sig.

[jal]

The link is in my sig.

Ck... mi in co sinyaca, kos dem a bik bik.
Tsk... I don't show signatures, as they are too big.


JAL

[Imralu]

The link is in my sig.

Ck... mi in co sinyaca, kos dem a bik bik.
Tsk... I don't show signatures, as they are too big.

A. To tie xu zaugkaláu guni.
ah | thus this1 NOM.3s.INAN.DEF soundcloud COP-GEN.1s.ICS
Ah, then here's my soundcloud.

Ttu eni zuo zeua kka mula geui xuue, mie mue kula xi uui.
believed DAT.1s.ICS NOM.C music NEG liked COP-DAT.2s.ICS NOM.3s.DEF.INAN-this1 | but can pair.of.ears ACC.3s.DEF.INAN GEN.2s.ICS
I don't think this is really your kind of music but you can give it a listen.

[jal]

I don't think this is really your kind of music but you can give it a listen.

Mi lisn an im swit mi sef :). Olbit fo ray dis mana myusik in a mana myusik mi u lisn nof taym.
I listened to it, and I even like it :). Even though indeed this kind of music is not the kind I listen to very often.


JAL

[Nortaneous]

Verizon, nmurxal zdura bgurxal da qaqzoshri shximbza, zhilbindri zham xra bezhu bqa ndaql rumpha, pshetki ndripshqi mgumgumgi. Ji henmxazdakri, ji bgushtulkri, mzhedib etsonmbza.
Verizon | lemur-COLL OBLTOP man-COLL BEN NF-death-toward sodomize-OPT | money-from 1S-GEN fucking service NF-provide completely NEG-be_able_to | swarm-DEROG.COLL dog.INS.PL-sodomite subhuman.PL || 3PL.DIST cumrag-COLL | 3PL.DIST goatse_man-COLL | machete-INSTR.PL PASS-kill-OPT
I should switch to a different ISP.

[jal]

Verizon, nmurxal zdura bgurxal da qaqzoshri shximbza, zhilbindri zham xra bezhu bqa ndaql rumpha, pshetki ndripshqi mgumgumgi. Ji henmxazdakri, ji bgushtulkri, mzhedib etsonmbza.
Verizon | lemur-COLL OBLTOP man-COLL BEN NF-death-toward sodomize-OPT | money-from 1S-GEN fucking service NF-provide completely NEG-be_able_to | swarm-DEROG.COLL dog.INS.PL-sodomite subhuman.PL || 3PL.DIST cumrag-COLL | 3PL.DIST goatse_man-COLL | machete-INSTR.PL PASS-kill-OPT
I should switch to a different ISP.

Lirlat!


JAL

[finlay]

The link is in my sig.

Ck... mi in co sinyaca, kos dem a bik bik.
Tsk... I don't show signatures, as they are too big.

Then it's in his profile.

[jal]

Then it's in his profile.

Ray, ova fo sat it in me isi fi kac im.
True, but unfortunately it isn't easy to get to that.


JAL

[finlay]

um the button is right there in the corner

[jal]

um the button is right there in the corner

Yu a nof ray! Yu les fes mi ray in luk dis! Mi sway klik pon yusa nem...
You are so right! Do you believe I really didn't see that? I tried to click on the username...


JAL

[k1234567890y]

um the button is right there in the corner

Yu a nof ray! Yu les fes mi ray in luk dis! Mi sway klik pon yusa nem...
You are so right! Do you believe I really didn't see that? I tried to click on the username...


JAL

Urban Basanawa:
ゑるﾟらﾟいきﾟと彼といす関ばどだパネルﾟ、だ汝使いいたすと中んZBB。
Wellaicht it is besibbed de panel de du neetest in ZBB.(romanization).
/wɛɫlaɪçt ɪt ɪs bəsɪbət də panəɫ də dʊ ni:təst ɪn dzɛtbi:bi:/
maybe it is related to the Panel you use in ZBB.

[jal]

maybe it is related to the Panel you use in ZBB.

Dis ol phpBB intafes a nof bat, mi neva neva luk pon olda boton an pica an an.
This old phpBB interface is so bad, I've never looked at all the buttons and images etc.


JAL

[jal]

Jal tel mi yunu man a tok geda wanoda yus fi langwic yunu tok de yah. Im tel mi se "yu les kol pon dem an swel tok yus Sajiwan, it wil pleja!". Mi in se dis go swit mi, ova mi gona sway kos Jal as mi. So ya mi de! Mi kol Elisabeth, ova nof man kol mi Lisabes o Lisa. Yu les sta kol mi Lisabes. It me yu kan kol mi Lisa wen yunu swit mi leta. No mi a go kac coping geda fi bwo. Talk to you later!
Jal told me you guys talk to each other in the language you talk at home. He told me "you should visit them and talk in Sajiwan, it'll be fun!". I'm not sure I'm going to like it, but I'll try because Jal asked me. So here I am! I'm called Elisabeth, but most people call me Lisabes or Lisa. You can call me Lisabes for now. Maybe you can call me Lisa if I like you later on. Now I'm going shopping with my gals. Talk to you later!

JAL

[k1234567890y]

Lonmai Luna:

Takamebai, alen Lisa yal, tak kat mek bais?
hello PND Lisa VOC Q 2.SG be.alright now?(interlinear)
Hello, Lisa, how are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS4wTuvR7Ik
cipuno cek nep-nep
song this be.cute-REDUP(interlinear)
this song is cute

[jal]

Hello, Lisa, how are you?

Yu a rof pon mi fo gol o what? Mi in redi tel yunu se "yu kan kol mi Lisabes"? Man, dis rofnes! Oh well, mi wil ple nays, Jal redi as mi fi no kac angga sun. Ye, mi a gut. Mi bay dem nays gahmn pwaya taym.
Are you rude with me on purpose or what? Didn't I just tell y'all "you can call me Lisabeth"? Man, the rudeness! Oh well, I'll play along, Jal already asked me not to become angry quickly. Yes, I'm fine. I bought nice clothes a while ago.

Some background here: Elisabeth is from an upper class Sajiwan family, who is thoroughly spoiled (her parents are in real estate, and no doubt involved in money laundering and/or drugs trade), and has little patience for "sloma" (anyone not wealthy). Just to show she is sofisticated, she throws English words and phrases through her speech, as is typical for her cast. I thought that after lower middle class Jego, it'd be nice to introduce a different type of Sajiwan.


JAL

[k1234567890y]

Hello, Lisa, how are you?

Yu a rof pon mi fo gol o what? Mi in redi tel yunu se "yu kan kol mi Lisabes"? Man, dis rofnes! Oh well, mi wil ple nays, Jal redi as mi fi no kac angga sun. Ye, mi a gut. Mi bay dem nays gahmn pwaya taym.
Are you rude with me on purpose or what? Didn't I just tell y'all "you can call me Lisabeth"? Man, the rudeness! Oh well, I'll play along, Jal already asked me not to become angry quickly. Yes, I'm fine. I bought nice clothes a while ago.

Some background here: Elisabeth is from an upper class Sajiwan family, who is thoroughly spoiled (her parents are in real estate, and no doubt involved in money laundering and/or drugs trade), and has little patience for "sloma" (anyone not wealthy). Just to show she is sofisticated, she throws English words and phrases through her speech, as is typical for her cast. I thought that after lower middle class Jego, it'd be nice to introduce a different type of Sajiwan.


JAL

Urban Basanawa:
ごめんなさい、Lisabeth、吾わす誤む
/gɔmɛnnasaɪ lɪzabɛt ɪk was lu:ssam/
Gomen-nasai, Lisabeth, ik was loosesame.(romanization)
sorry, Lisabeth, I was wrong.

おわﾟりがんす、Lisabeth、良どと会たん爾、又ん彼としゃいんと、だと汝びすと富く、但く汝むうすと注意だん、彼とげいうﾟと多るﾟ悪と人す、だ試かんと奪わﾟん爾い金
/ɔvərɪgəns lɪzabɛt gu:t tə mi:tən dɪ, ʊn ɪt ʃaɪnt dat dʊ bɪst raɪk ak dʊ mu:st hi:dən ɪt ge:vət fi:l slɪçt mans də fərsi:kən tə ru:vən daɪ gɛɫt/
Overigens, Lisabeth, good to meeten di, un it shinet, dat du bist rike, ak du moost heeden, it gevet fiel slicht mans, de ferseeken to rooven dy geld.(romanization)
By the way, Lisabeth, nice to meet you, and it seems that you are rich, but you must watch out, there are many bad people who try to rob your money.