Help your conlang fluency (2)

[hwhatting]

Fa laufíntis tás pullás tan pullan pa pullas laufít?
INT love-PRES.ACT.3Pl ART-F.PL.NOM girl-PL.NOM ART-F.SG.ACC girl-SG.ACC REL-F.SG.NOM Girl-PL.ACC love-PRES.ACT.3SG
Do the girls love the girl who loves girls?

[jal]

That sounds good! by the way, who is talking? Lisabeth or Jal?

Dis a minu mana de dis pah: wen man tok sem oda man, man yus som kola, an wen man tok sem imsef, man in mek dis. So im ja Lisabes.
The convention here is, that when you speak "in character", you use some colour, and when you're speaking as yourself, you don't. So it was Lisabeth.
(More litt.: this is our way in this loction: when one speaks like another person, one uses some colour, and when one speaks like oneself, one doesn't do this. So he/she was Lisabeth.)

more, is Lisabeth a girl that loves girls?

A im yu les as!
You should ask her!


JAL

[YourFace]

more, is Lisabeth a girl that loves girls?

A im yu les as!
You should ask her!

Ki Lizabet duya naraga?
Who's Lisbeth?

[Imralu]

"Yes, I'm rich and quite powerful. I'm a balu (imperial guard). I personally know the king and consider him a friend. I once saved his life."

May may, di king no? An royal gah? Dis lisn pohtan!
My my, the king? And a royal guard? That sounds important!

Ahe, mie zo gala utaia nu, to xuaie ikka ba tahe nu lahes olo xue tta.
yes | but PROG in.contact Earth NOM.1s.ICS | thus LOC.3s.DEF.INAN-this1 PRED-NEG very important NOM.1s.ICS ADV.yes strange also large
Yes, but now I'm on Earth, so I'm not terribly important here, just strange and large.

"But what's it to you? An unmarried woman must never ask about how much money a man has."

Wo fo? Mi swel af ric an bisay, uman kan as olda ting im won! Yu du ste de baksay kolca o?
Why not? I'm rich too and besides, a woman is allowed to ask everything she wants! Are you coming from some backwards culture, or what?

Bu, kka tiuua igombo xu.
well | NEG rule state NOM.3s.DEF.INAN
Well, it's not a law.

Ha ti bilo mu muja to ha hales eji lima jo "to ha tei molu ju" akuo vanio gehuo?
if/Q PRF die NOM.3s.SPEC.ICS man thus if/Q ask DAT.3s.DEF.ICS wife ACC.C "thus if/Q still dead NOM.3s.DEF.ICS" LOC.TEMP.C every.occasion meet.by.accident
If a man dies, do you ask his wife every time you see her "So, is he still dead?"

Tuuas ahe hema mie kkue.
of.course yes allowed but JUSS.NEG
Of course you can, but you shouldn't.

Gol dika? Wen mi go dik pon gol mi go dik fi on poc!
Gold digger? If I would go dig for gold, I'd dig in my own wallet!

Nxui mo ixu bani gaua.
COP-ABL.3s.DEF.INAN what NOM.3p.DEF.INAN money COP-LOC.2s.ACS
Where does this money that you have come from?

byento byento
fresh

Nxui mo xuua.
COP-ABL.3s.DEF.INAN what NOM.3s.DEF.INAN-that2
Where is this from?

Mi dem af so pleja pwaya nay! Minu wok Son Re klop, de Poh Swit, an ja dans ol nay long. Minu kac Sam ti, im af pingk Mini konva, ova minu af fown pon fi nani aftanay fi kom kac minu, kos minu ja so dwingk... Man, a pen mi besa longga pen pon mi.
We had so much fun last night! We went to the Sun Ray club, on Port Street, and were dancing all night long. We got there by Sam's car, she has a pink Mini convertible, but we had to call her nanny after midnight to come and get us, because we were so wasted. Man, my head still hurts like hell.

Ha tei iahas eue xu bula?
Q/if still hurt DAT.2s.ACS NOM.3s.DEF.INAN head
Does your head still hurt?

[k1234567890y]

Dis a minu mana de dis pah: wen man tok sem oda man, man yus som kola, an wen man tok sem imsef, man in mek dis. So im ja Lisabes.
The convention here is, that when you speak "in character", you use some colour, and when you're speaking as yourself, you don't. So it was Lisabeth.
(More litt.: this is our way in this loction: when one speaks like another person, one uses some colour, and when one speaks like oneself, one doesn't do this. So he/she was Lisabeth.)

more, is Lisabeth a girl that loves girls?

A im yu les as!
You should ask her!


JAL

ok

Urban Basanawa(RP):

えい びっどろ゜っす！吾びん真里亜、一ん新米尼僧。いすたLisabethちゃんいす一ん女子だ愛わﾟと女子す？彼いすそう良ど！吾欲いるﾟ学なんと知なんLisabethちゃん！
/e: βɪdlɔs ɪk bɪn marɪja, ɛn ʃɪnmaɪ nɪso:. ɪsta lɪzabɛttʃan ɪs hɔntɔ-nɪ ɛn waɪfkɪnt də li:vət waɪfkɪndəsʔ dat ɪs so: gu:t ɪk wɪɫ lɛrnən tə kɛnən lɪzabɛttʃan/
Ei Bidlos! ik bin Maria, en shinmai nisou. is-it-dat Lisabeth-tchan is honto-ni en wifekind de leevet wifekinds? dat is so good! ik will lernen to kennen Lisabeth-tchan!(romanization)
Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

此図いす何う吾見く中ん一ん漫画の図： http://i.imgur.com/aHNkV3M.jpg
/dɪs bɪɫt ɪs haʊ ɪk lu:k laɪk ɪn ɛn maŋganɔ bɪɫt/
Dis bild is hau ik look in en Manga-no bild: http://i.imgur.com/aHNkV3M.jpg (romanization)
This picture is how I look in a manga-style picture: http://i.imgur.com/aHNkV3M.jpg

Note: Maria-chan is a 16-year-old, good-looking(she looks cute), physically attractive girl who is a buddhist nun and has a very long hair, she likes cute girls and wants to have friends, however, she may have autism, which may hinder her from make friends sometimes.

Also, Maria-chan has a twin sister who looks exactly like her and is also a buddhist nun, except for that her twin sister has a short hair.

[Matrix]

girl that likes girls

hrani ker varo hoj endosion kilen, la? garayanarar gan kedamavuromar!
[ˈhɾan.i kɛːɹɾ ˈvaːɹɾo ˈhoʒ ɛndosˈi.on ˈkilɛn | lǎ ‖ gaːɹɾaˈjanaːɹɾaːɹɾ gan kɛdaˈmavuːɹɾomaːɹɾ]

hran

word

-i

-PL

ker

GEN

varo

DEM

hoj

2SG

endos

be

-ion

-CONT

kilen,

know

la?

yeah

garayanar

lesbian.relationship

-ar

-AGTN

gan

or

kedamavurom

female.homosexuality

-ar!

-AGTN

you know there are words for this, yeah? lesbian or gay woman!

ai, hanion, Krozu rak zana endos! anscar! domar hurganokui varo endos! varoi nurakith fijankon hurgai!
[ai̯ | ˈhan.i.on | ˈkχɾozu ɹɾak ˈzana ˈɛndos ‖ ˈanʃaːɹɾ ‖ ˈdomaːɹɾ huːɹɢaˈnokʷi ˈvaːɹɾo ˈɛndos ‖ ˈvaːɹɾo.i ˈnuːɹɾakiθ ˈfiʒankon ˈhuːɹɢa.i]

ai,

oh

han

go

-ion,

-CONT

Krozu

Krozu

rak

1SG.POSS

zana

name

endos!

be

anscar!

hello

domar

crazy

hurganokui

forum.thread

varo

DEM

endos!

be

varo

DEM

-i

-PL

nurakith

all

fijankon

foreign

hurga

language

-i!

-PL

oh, by the way, my name is Krozu! hi! this is a crazy thread! all these foreign languages!

[Imralu]

ok

Urban Basanawa(RP):

えい びっどろ゜っす！吾びん真里亜、一ん新米尼僧。いすたLisabethちゃんいす一ん女子だ愛わﾟと女子す？彼いすそう良ど！吾欲いるﾟ学なんと知なんLisabethちゃん！
/e: βɪdlɔs ɪk bɪn marɪja, ɛn ʃɪnmaɪ nɪso:. ɪsta lɪzabɛttʃan ɪs hɔntɔ-nɪ ɛn waɪfkɪnt də li:vət waɪfkɪndəsʔ dat ɪs so: gu:t ɪk wɪɫ lɛrnən tə kɛnən lɪzabɛttʃan/
Ei Bidlos! ik bin Maria, en shinmai nisou. is-it-dat Lisabeth-tchan is honto-ni en wifekind de leevet wifekinds? dat is so good! ik will lernen to kennen Lisabeth-tchan!(romanization)
Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

Ntemmo xuuas aiha?
cop-CAU-what NOM.3s.DEF.INAN-that.2 idea
Where did you get that idea?

hrani ker varo hoj endosion kilen, la? garayanarar gan kedamavuromar!
[ˈhɾan.i kɛːɹɾ ˈvaːɹɾo ˈhoʒ ɛndosˈi.on ˈkilɛn | lǎ ‖ gaːɹɾaˈjanaːɹɾaːɹɾ gan kɛdaˈmavuːɹɾomaːɹɾ]

hran

word

-i

-PL

ker

GEN

varo

DEM

hoj

2SG

endos

be

-ion

-CONT

kilen,

know

la?

yeah

garayanar

lesbian.relationship

-ar

-AGTN

gan

or

kedamavurom

female.homosexuality

-ar!

-AGTN

you know there are words for this, yeah? lesbian or gay woman!

Zoua zuos oila xiia hei. Ttia kueju nu.
difficult NOM.C read ACC.3s.DEF.INAN-that2 warm_coloured | slightly change NOM.1s.ICS
It was difficult to read that colour. I changed it a little.

kilo tia lo kka iara va ilia
word that.2 ADV NEG LOC.3p.NSPC.INAN all language
Not all languages have a word like that.

Hamias a hikuejuilia ttia kilo kilo.
acceptable NOM.3s.NSPC.INAN translation slightly word word
A rather literal translation is OK.

[YourFace]

Is anyone gonna answer my question?

more, is Lisabeth a girl that loves girls?

A im yu les as!
You should ask her!

Ki Lizabet duya naraga?
Who's Lisbeth?

[finlay]

girl that likes girls

hrani ker varo hoj endosion kilen, la?

it's good to write in a colour that people can actually read (hint: yellow is not a colour people can read)

[schyrsivochter]

Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

Is it really necessary to include these Japanese name suffixes in the translation? I’ve noticed that most manga translators seem to think that, too; I beg to differ. What’s the point in that?

[finlay]

*cough* http://pbfcomics.com/71/

[schyrsivochter]

What’s that supposed to mean?

[Imralu]

Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

Is it really necessary to include these Japanese name suffixes in the translation? I’ve noticed that most manga translators seem to think that, too; I beg to differ. What’s the point in that?

I find it ridiculous watching American movies dubbed into German and people refer to their parents as "Mahm" and "Dett", and for some reason Mr and Mrs don't get translated either. Mom, Dad, Mrs Jones von nebenan ist gestorben.

[k1234567890y]

ok

Urban Basanawa(RP):

えい びっどろ゜っす！吾びん真里亜、一ん新米尼僧。いすたLisabethちゃんいす一ん女子だ愛わﾟと女子す？彼いすそう良ど！吾欲いるﾟ学なんと知なんLisabethちゃん！
/e: βɪdlɔs ɪk bɪn marɪja, ɛn ʃɪnmaɪ nɪso:. ɪsta lɪzabɛttʃan ɪs hɔntɔ-nɪ ɛn waɪfkɪnt də li:vət waɪfkɪndəsʔ dat ɪs so: gu:t ɪk wɪɫ lɛrnən tə kɛnən lɪzabɛttʃan/
Ei Bidlos! ik bin Maria, en shinmai nisou. is-it-dat Lisabeth-tchan is honto-ni en wifekind de leevet wifekinds? dat is so good! ik will lernen to kennen Lisabeth-tchan!(romanization)
Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

Ntemmo xuuas aiha?
cop-CAU-what NOM.3s.DEF.INAN-that.2 idea
Where did you get that idea?

Urban Basanawa:

何と考あかﾟと？
wat gedacht?(romanization)
what idea?

girl that likes girls

hrani ker varo hoj endosion kilen, la? garayanarar gan kedamavuromar!
[ˈhɾan.i kɛːɹɾ ˈvaːɹɾo ˈhoʒ ɛndosˈi.on ˈkilɛn | lǎ ‖ gaːɹɾaˈjanaːɹɾaːɹɾ gan kɛdaˈmavuːɹɾomaːɹɾ]

hran

word

-i

-PL

ker

GEN

varo

DEM

hoj

2SG

endos

be

-ion

-CONT

kilen,

know

la?

yeah

garayanar

lesbian.relationship

-ar

-AGTN

gan

or

kedamavurom

female.homosexuality

-ar!

-AGTN

you know there are words for this, yeah? lesbian or gay woman!

ai, hanion, Krozu rak zana endos! anscar! domar hurganokui varo endos! varoi nurakith fijankon hurgai!
[ai̯ | ˈhan.i.on | ˈkχɾozu ɹɾak ˈzana ˈɛndos ‖ ˈanʃaːɹɾ ‖ ˈdomaːɹɾ huːɹɢaˈnokʷi ˈvaːɹɾo ˈɛndos ‖ ˈvaːɹɾo.i ˈnuːɹɾakiθ ˈfiʒankon ˈhuːɹɢa.i]

ai,

oh

han

go

-ion,

-CONT

Krozu

Krozu

rak

1SG.POSS

zana

name

endos!

be

anscar!

hello

domar

crazy

hurganokui

forum.thread

varo

DEM

endos!

be

varo

DEM

-i

-PL

nurakith

all

fijankon

foreign

hurga

language

-i!

-PL

oh, by the way, my name is Krozu! hi! this is a crazy thread! all these foreign languages!

Urban Basanawa:

"Homosexual person"いす同性愛者中ん町語
"homosexual person" is dowsei-aisha in Burgspraak(romanization)
Homosexual person is "同性愛者" in Urban Basanawa

Hey guys! I am Maria, a newbie buddhist nun. Is Lisabeth-chan really a girl that likes girls? that is so good! I want to know Lisabeth-chan!

Is it really necessary to include these Japanese name suffixes in the translation? I’ve noticed that most manga translators seem to think that, too; I beg to differ. What’s the point in that?

my habit...

[jal]

Yes, but now I'm on Earth, so I'm not terribly important here, just strange and large.

A wo yu min, swenc? An wo mana bik?
What do you mean, strange? And large how / in what way?

If a man dies, do you ask his wife every time you see her "So, is he still dead?"

Mi in si yu min wo. Wo mana det man sem ric fi lif man?
I don't understand what you mean. In what way has a dead man to do with the wealth of a living man?

Where does this money that you have come from?

Mi paran af ric. An mi af gut jop.
My parents are rich. And I have a good job.

Where is this from?

Spanyol.
Spanish.

Does your head still hurt?

Fo lok im pas de aftanun.
Luckily it passed in the afternoon.

Is anyone gonna answer my question?

Wo fo minu go gi yu di ansa, wen yu me isi fayn im don imsef?
Why would we give you the answer, if you can easily find it yourself?

ok

A Lisbes yu longga in as!
You still didn't ask Lisbeth!


JAL

EDIT: Fix

[YourFace]

Goddamnit, guys, read my question!

Is anyone gonna answer my question?

more, is Lisabeth a girl that loves girls?

A im yu les as!
You should ask her!

Ki Lizabet duya naraga?
Who's Lisbeth?

[Matrix]

ki gara kilo ki joturan hrani Lisbeth endos!
Lisbeth is the girl with the purple words!

[YourFace]

ki gara kilo ki joturan hrani Lisbeth endos!
Lisbeth is the girl with the purple words!

nēi, er tabeit.
pls no yellow

[schyrsivochter]

nēi, er tabeit.
pls no yellow

—pls no unnecessary abbreviations

This is a forum, not a chatroom. You’ve got plenty of time. Enough time at least to write three more characters.

[finlay]

nēi, er tabeit.
pls no yellow

—pls no unnecessary abbreviations

This is a forum, not a chatroom. You’ve got plenty of time. Enough time at least to write three more characters.

learn our culture b4 u start correcting ppl dickhead

[jal]

Goddamnit, guys, read my question!

Yu a yong, an so yu fogif. Ova yu a rof, an yu soso tingk steda a se yu go sway se - it sim yu sahtn no man neva rit yu as, ova it me olda minu rit yu as ova minu cus fi no ansa. An dis taym, di on bay fi on tel: mi redi ansa fo yu as, an di man im plen bo man dem in rit, in rit.

You are young, and therefore forgiven. However, you are rude, and you assume instead of trying to know - you seem certain that noone read your question, but it could be we all read your question but chose to not answer it. And now the joke is on you: I already answered your question, and the man complaining about people not reading, didn't read.


JAL

[k1234567890y]

Lisabethちゃん、いすた汝びすと一ん女子だ愛わﾟと女子す？
/lɪzabɛttʃan ɪsta dʊ bɪst hɔntɔ-nɪ ɛn waɪfkɪnt də li:vət waɪfkɪndəs/
Lisabeth-tchan, is-it-dat du bist en wifekind de leevet wifekinds?(romanization)
Lisabeth-chan, are you a girl that loves girls?

ki gara kilo ki joturan hrani Lisbeth endos!
Lisbeth is the girl with the purple words!

nēi, er tabeit.
pls no yellow

Elisabeth's background, as provided by Jal:

Some background here: Elisabeth is from an upper class Sajiwan family, who is thoroughly spoiled (her parents are in real estate, and no doubt involved in money laundering and/or drugs trade), and has little patience for "sloma" (anyone not wealthy). Just to show she is sofisticated, she throws English words and phrases through her speech, as is typical for her cast. I thought that after lower middle class Jego, it'd be nice to introduce a different type of Sajiwan.

[jal]

Lisabeth-chan, are you a girl that loves girls?

Dis mata bo wo mana yu min "love". Dem uman swit mi? Nof ray, mi laymin geda dem olda taym. Mi won uman? No, mi won mi moda an mi sista, an mi bff Alis. Ova a lof mi in lof dem sem mi lof dem iman. Mi in semlofa, if that wo yu min. An mi swel tingk mi in baylofa. Mi sesop wan taym geda fi gahl Meri, im ya u semlo, an it ja nays an ol, ova mi longga tingk mi u ray.
That depends on what you mean by "love". Do I like women? Certainly, I hang out with them all the time. Do I love women? Well, I love my other and sister, and my bff Alice. But I don't love them like I love boys. I'm not gay, if that's what you mean. And I also don't think I'm bisexual. I made out* once with my friend Meri, who is gay, and it was nice and all, but I still think I'm straight.

*"sesop" refers to sex, but can mean anything from french kissing and touching through clothes to sexual intercourse.


JAL

[Salmoneus]

::|| sodɛ̨n mi agon plui cɔ̨ijhee wɜgnee sɔ̨ɔ̨ ::leewęfraaka hɜ ::: xąuva hɜ-th pɜree : dęsɜ-th nofɛkee de roprɛijhee fɔk can ||::
/sodVn mi agon pluI tSQIz\e: w3gne: sQ: le:w@\fra:ka h3 xAUva h3T p3re: d@\s3T nofEke: de roprEIz\e: fOk tSan
well I 1S-plan before attempt-PRT work_on-PRT some leewefraaka here but here-3S.be appear-PRT this-3S.be really the roleplay-PRT sex channel
Well, I was going to try working on some Leewefraaka here, but it seems this is actually the roleplaying sex channel

(For current american accent, push those /o/ toward /u/, the /EI/ toward /aI/, the /@\/ toward /e/, and in extreme cases the final /k/ toward [x])

(I'm not actually sure that this language should have the word 'roleplay' with exactly this sense, but I'm way too lazy to try working that out right now).

[schyrsivochter]

/sodVn mi agon pluI tSQIz\e: w3gne: sQ: le:w@\fra:ka h3 xAUva h3T p3re: d@\s3T nofEke: de roprEIz\e: fOk tSan

Could you please use IPA? X-SAMPA may be easier to type, but IPA is far easier to read. I for one have to look up most of the characters you use there. Here’s a conversion tool to make it easier for you.