Help your conlang fluency (2)

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nye hina kyo'alapua ka
reason here be.quiet-become-PFV Q
Why has this place gone quiet?

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Gut as. Mi a mek nyu langwic, an mi nof nof ol mek Sajiwan. Ova di nyu langwic in nof don fi ray som de ya.
Good question. I'm making a new language, and I all but stopped work on Sajiwan. But the new language isn't in a state I can write something here.


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Ton namudolan. Ato rahiedir, ros?
NEG FEM-know | all full-MASC.PL perhaps
I don't know. Everyone's busy, perhaps?
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.

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masako wrote:nye hina kyo'alapua ka
reason here be.quiet-become-PFV Q
Why has this place gone quiet?
anka
everyone
aldi
enjoy
kadinu-r
sun.light-DIR.INDEF
xanna
outside

Everyone's enjoying the sun outside. [Chileans don't apply.]

meina-r
good-DIR.INDEF
ibu,
more
yeknu
maybe
shi
be
parraba-r
lazy-DIR.INDEF
yai
too.sth.to
kup-esh
write-FUT
ienka-r
something-DIR.INDEF,
ten
this
budri
whether
su
with
lui
1.GEN
mexokna
given.birth
udul-i
tongue-PREP.DEF,
sra
that
budri
whether
paudei
approaching
srana-i
that-PREP.DEF

Or just being too lazy to write anything in or about our conlangs.

yalu
except
guitarplayer
guitarplayer

Except for guitarplayer.

srana
that
shi
be
kai-na
do-PTCP
kai-na
do-PTCP
davist
actually
pauna
recent
yullas
this.day
kup-ni-n
write-INF-EQUAT.INDEF
pinvidri
Vidruan
xirtu-r
book-DIR.INDEF
go
of
ayeri
Ayeri-PREP.DEF

He's been legitimately busy writing a reference grammar of Ayeri,

xirtu
book-DIR.DEF
adrokni
extend
pralka
100
ibu
more
cusne-r
page-DIR.INDEF

which is currently at more than 100 pages.

H13
H13
daia
too

Also H13,

srana
that
nutti
pick
xakna-r
fruit-DIR.INDEF
go
of
leiu-s
mountain-PREP.INDEF

who's been picking fruit up the mountain.

(DIR = direct case, EQUAT = equative case, PREP = prepositional/topical case)

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(in Tormiott):

Cantarhiallott
work-1s.DEFC
a
1s
me
POS.ALIEN
ascalaintoun
thesis

/ˈkɛntaɹˌjalːət a mə ˈaskaˌlɛːntuːn/
I am working on my thesis.

*DEFC = defective aspect. I didn't know what else to call it. It's both a kind of a long-term continuous aspect, and a wish for something to continue or be completed (more successfully).

Etymology:

cantarhian ˈkɛntaɹjɪn (v) work, labour; {in defective form} to work on
- cant- ˈkɛnt (pref) on, in, or with the hands or feet; relating to touch
- rhian ɹjɛn (v) to construct, to make, to fabricate, to create; to lie

ascalaintoun ˈaskaˌlɛːntuːn (n) thesis, dissertation
- asc- ask (pref) the act(ion) of.., the result of...
- laintoun ˈlɛːntuːn (n) reason, justification, logic
- - lait- ˈlɛːn (pref) on purpose; with a certain goal or outcome
- - noun nuːn (v) to ask, to query; to request; to question, to pull into question, to doubt; to wonder (reflexive); (n) question, request
— o noth sidiritt Tormiott

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Tsi tʰissiʃu turmijutatsu pamituts? :P
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Are you gonna write your thesis in Tormiott?
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Ilen iran yideir.
FUT that.ANIM impressive-ANIM
That would be impressive.
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.

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jal wrote:Gut as. Mi a mek nyu langwic, an mi nof nof ol mek Sajiwan. Ova di nyu langwic in nof don fi ray som de ya.
Good question. I'm making a new language, and I all but stopped work on Sajiwan. But the new language isn't in a state I can write something here.
Na i le zyi Zadyiwani.
I like Sajiwan
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Znex wrote:Tsi tʰissiʃu turmijutatsu pamituts? :P
2SG.NEU thesis-ABS Tormiott-INT=in PRSP-write-2SG.IMPF
Are you gonna write your thesis in Tormiott?

(in Tormiott):

A
1s
pai
COND
rhianatt
do-1s
no cuân,
that there
senît
never
a
1s
sia
just
me
FUT
condotiorott
get.past-1s
i
CLASS
oicair...
title

/a pɛː ˈɹjɛnɪt ˈnʊkwɛːn, ˈsəniːt a ɕa mə ˈkonːəˌtɕoɾət i ˈʊjkɛːɹ/
If I did that, I'd never get past the title...


Especially if you consider that 2 other people posted while I worked on this little sentence.
— o noth sidiritt Tormiott

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Imralu wrote:I like Sajiwan
Bles yu!
Thank you!


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Pali ʃienen? Kani hau ʃiku kifuʃies.
heat 3SG-INT=upon | NEG but 3SG-ABS sneeze-3SG.PF-NEG
Bless them? But they didn't sneeze.
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Znex wrote:Bless them? But they didn't sneeze.
Mi in cende. Mi tok se "bles yu". A wo fo yu gwan bo cuing?
[minˈtʃende / mi tok se bles ju / ɐ ˈw̝ofo ju gʷɐ̃ bo ˈtʃuiŋ]
I don't understand. I said "thank you". Why are you talking about sneezing?


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jal wrote:I don't understand. I said "thank you". Why are you talking about sneezing?
Wit ni parhundit tan Sajiwan duchun.
Because NEG understand-PRES.ACT.3SG ART-F.SG.ACC Sajiwan language-SG.ACC
Because he doesn't understand Sajiwan.

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jal wrote:
Znex wrote:Bless them? But they didn't sneeze.
Mi in cende. Mi tok se "bles yu". A wo fo yu gwan bo cuing?
[minˈtʃende / mi tok se bles ju / ɐ ˈw̝ofo ju gʷɐ̃ bo ˈtʃuiŋ]
I don't understand. I said "thank you". Why are you talking about sneezing?
Hasai saisanukʰai tsimai tsulits! Jaunu, tai nisu ʃiku nawanu, "ʃatʰei tsien" ʃilan; tai nisu ʃiku nakifu, "Pali tsien"; tai nisu ʃiku nasaisan, "Sasu tsien".
now chew-SUBST about talk-2SG.IMPF | god.PL if person-ABS 3SG-ABS=SBJ-do.good.3SG.IMPF rain 2SG-with 3SG=say.3SG.IMPF | if person-ABS 3SG-ABS=SBJ-sneeze.3SG.IMPF heat 2SG-with | if person-ABS 3SG-ABS=SBJ-chew.3SG.IMPF silence 2SG-with
Now you're talking about chewing! Gods, if someone does good, one says "Thank you"; if someone sneezes, "Bless you"; if someone chews, "Shame on you"!
More: show
(since sasu can mean both "silence" and "shame", sasu tsien can mean both something like "shh!/quiet!/shut up!", or something like "you should be ashamed!/shame on you!"; in the first sense, it can be understood as being equivalent to the Anglophone's admonishment to keep one's mouth closed while eating)
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Znex wrote:Pali ʃienen?
heat 3SG-INT=upon
Bless them?
Ha hiwa nenge i bye bu gye?
Is that language from a cold place?
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ʃe; Jurupen, aspuien.
Sure; from Europe, the mountains.
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Znex wrote:Now you're talking about chewing! Gods, if someone does good, one says "Thank you"; if someone sneezes, "Bless you"; if someone chews, "Shame on you"!
Yu nof in cende, ray? Mi a bo esplen wan nes taym: Wen taym man mek gut, yu tok se "bles yu!". Wen taym man cu, yu tok se "esus!". Wen taym man nyam, yu tok se "nyam gut!".
Yu really don't get it, do you? I'm going to explain it one last time: When someone does good, you say "thank you!". When someone sneezes, you say "gesundheit!". When someone chews/is eating*, you say "bon appetit!".

*"nyam" is colloquial for both chewing and eating. "it" is the alternative, both formal and colloquial, but is used for both eating and drinking.


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Znex wrote:ʃe; Jurupen, aspuien.
Sure; from Europe, the mountains.
A. Nge i zyu ni govwe i ni ho do na i zyu i bu gye.
Ah. The speakers think that heat is something good so I thought of a cold place.
jal wrote: Yu nof in cende, ray? Mi a bo esplen wan nes taym: Wen taym man mek gut, yu tok se "bles yu!". Wen taym man cu, yu tok se "esus!". Wen taym man nyam, yu tok se "nyam gut!".
Yu really don't get it, do you? I'm going to explain it one last time: When someone does good, you say "thank you!". When someone sneezes, you say "gesundheit!". When someone chews/is eating*, you say "bon appetit!".
Ha ngo i hwa ho do ho i nge dyiyu "wa i ho." Ha ngo i mo do ho i nge dyiyu "zyamo wo i he ze ngu wo."
When someone does something good, you should say "you are good." When someone is eating, you should say "may your food not kill you."
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Yen siémtèum fù tō <Ráoga tièum.> iph pōuga. Yen tiùtèum fù tō pōuga kuei jas. Yen gīphtèum fù tō <Yìanga!> iph pōuga.
3s good-pres.imp.act if 2s <act-pres.per.act again> SUB say-pres.per.act / 3s sneeze-pres.imp.act if 2s say-pres.per.act word city / 3s eat-pres.imp.act if <health-pres.per.act> SUB say-pres.per.act
When someone does something good, you should say, “Repeat your actions.” When someone sneezes, you should tell them your hometown. When someone is eating, you should say “May it be healthy [for you].”

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Na i nye lu nggwimbozwa.
I'm in the bath right now.
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I now have a large enough lexicon to write simple poetry in Vezurian:

Leda köpi v'albán mu?
Mefe mu ir šu mefe,
Leda köpi v'albán mu?
Ev vanún fu neye


why steal-2SG DEF-heart 1.DAT
sorry 1.DAT and 2sg.DAT sorry
why steal-2SG DEF-heart 1.DAT
in water-ACC die-1SG morning


"Why did you steal my heart? / I'm sorry and you're sorry, / Why did you steal my heart? / I'll drown come the morning
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Fòum déitèum kiúis.
Song cry-pres.ind.caus everyone
Your poetry is very depressing.

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Sué gé zhō lei
Kào wì wen keph
Suephin fēs lōu
Fēsseum siōlgī

White moon hides her flight
A powerful storm brings forth darkness.
The eye that watches stars
Let it look indoors.

Beph sieph eáwí
Nōnmèi siēs sies
Ni fēsgom mé
Ōs saì gèdel.

The green forest has grown
For many hundreds of years.
I will not see it die,
Neither will my clan-children.

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I bawe ngo.
Va i nggwa mo. Va i nggwa zo. Va i nggwa bo.
Va i ga nwo.

There are many people.
All sometimes eat. All sometimes move. All sometimes have desires.
All will die.
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Olda yunu wil day! A se day mi tok! U-a-a-a-a-a-a!!!
You'll all going to die! Die I'm saying! Wuhahahahaha!!!!


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