Help your conlang fluency (2)

[spanick]

Sko Gotski bežban. Jal, ganöt ten prevod jenero poemos!
I should practice Gotski. Jal, I like your translation of this poem!

[Travis B.]

Yår ka lákárdə-tšak' k'áhləyošwə-pə låġše; šey šihtsədə ne lüysetsə kan əts páġ ts'innədə yutswə zitšošwə-pə nayše.
I should translate something into Old Laqar; I would probably start with the Lord's Prayer or the Seven Kill Stele.

[jal]

Jal, I like your translation of this poem!

Thanks. I probably should've provided a literal translation of the Sajiwan as well (the English is from the Hobbit):

"For long ago king(s) and elves lord*
Much gleaming gold heap filled up the floors
Shaped day and night and caught the light
to tuck it up at bling** of sword"

*Proper Sajiwan would be "elf loh-dem" or "dem elf loh", but since the English is pretty scrambled as well, I think I can get away with this.
**Probably a way to modern and colloquial word for such an ancient song, so I need to change it.


JAL

[Travis B.]

Xeru-də=k'ə=zə Tåz-ni,
heaven-DEF.S.M=LOC=ATTR father-1.P
[xeɾuˈdɐkʼɐzɐ ˈtʰɔzni]
Our Father who art in heaven,

kih-he=no səllə-se-n-yin-še.
name-2.S.M=PAT holy-CAUS-IPFV-3.S.F-SJV
[ˈkʰihːeno sɐlːɐˈsenjinɕe]
Hallowed be thy name.

Ts'ay-he law-še.
kingdom-2.S.M come.PFV-SJV
[ˈtsʼæjhe ˈlæwɕe]
Thy kingdom come.

Kuha-he la-y-še
will-2.S.M do.PFV-3.S.M-SJV
[ˈkʰuhæhe ˈlæjɕe]
Thy will be done

xeru-də=k'ə ġá-yə row=lo lox-də=k'ə.
heaven-DEF.S.M=LOC exist.IPFV-3.S.M way=INST earth-DEF.S.M=LOC
[xeˈɾudɐkʼɐ ˈɣɑjɐ ˈɾowlo ˈloxdɐkʼɐ]
on earth as it is in heaven.

Nit=tša k'aw-t-e əts'id-ni k'o duz=k'ə he-ri,
1.P=DAT day-ADJ-S.F bread-1.P day PROX.S.F=LOC give-3.S.F
[ˈnitʰtɕʰæ ˈkʼæwtʰe ˈɐtsʼidni ˈkʼo ˈduzkʼɐ ˈheɾi]
Give us this day our daily bread,

nit=tša rəx-tsə-l-ni neha-ri,
1.P=DAT trespass.IPFV-GER-P.F-1.P forgive-3.S.F
[ˈnitʰtɕʰæ ˈɾɐxtsʰɐlni ˈnehæɾi]
and forgive us our trespasses,

nit=tšak' rəxə-l-wu=zə ts'ir neha-n-lå-wo row=lo,
1.P=ALL trespass.IPFV-PFV-3.P.M=REL DIST.3.P.M forgive-IPFV-1.P-3.P.M way=INST
[ˈnitʰtɕʰækʼ ˈɾɐxɐlwuzɐ ˈtsʼiɾ neˈhænlɔwo ˈɾowlo]
as we forgive those who trespass against us,

əts box-tsə=tšak' šu šåk-ni,
and tempt.PFV-GER=ALL NEG lead-1.P
[ɐtsʰ ˈboxtsʰɐtɕʰækʼ ɕu ˈɕɔkʰni]
and lead us not into temptation,

əts hare=k'əl rey gəb-ni.
and evil=ABL rather save-1.P
[ɐtsʰ ˈhæɾekʼɐl ˈɾej ˈgɐbni]
but deliver us from evil.

(This is not typical Old Laqar, because Old Laqar is normally pretty strongly left-branching and SOV, and yet to follow the traditional (English) wording used here I needed to right-branch in places. This is also why I omitted the doxology, because I would have had to change the wording around significantly from the English wording I was following.)

[Travis B.]

Xeru-də tol-yam yår-mu key=tšak' lah-na-y-wo.
heaven-DEF.S.M many-P.M thing-P.M front=ALL bring-IPFV-3.S.M-3.P.M
[ˈxeɾudɐ ˈtʰoljæm ˈjɔɾmu ˈkʰejtɕʰækʼ ˈlæhnæjwo]
Heaven brings forth innumerable things to nurture man.

Xeru-də=tša k'ow liġ-tsə=tša=zə may-ə=zə yår šu ġəla=tša ġá-yə.
heaven-DEF.S.M=DAT back pay-GER=DAT=REL good-S.M=REL thing NEG mankind=DAT exist.IPFV-3.S.M
[ˈxeɾudɐtɕʰæ kʼow ˈliɣtsʰɐtɕʰæzɐ ˈmæjɐzɐ ˈjɔɾ ˈɕu ˈɣɐlætɕʰæ ˈɣɑjɐ]
Man has nothing good with which to recompense Heaven.

Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se. Lüy-se.
die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS die-CAUS
[ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse ˈlyjse]
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.

[din]

ta nya tsula tsipue
You're late to the party.

A onta tollaih o das tuaraih!
/a ˈonta ˈtolːɛ͡ah ʊ dɛs ˈtwaɾɛ͡ah/
1s MOD begin-MOM.1s ADV alone dance-MOM.1s
I'll dance on my own, then!

[Znex]

Меня этсы па новай беседа па ла илай. За сови этажин «нипоши беседа»!
メニャエツパノバイベセダパライライ。ザサビエタヂン「ニﾂポシベセダ」。
I have a new language to play with. I call it "Nipposhi Beseda"!

[Travis B.]

Buk=tšak' k'áh-lə-tsə=tša=zə tol-sa-yəm=zə yår-mu ġå-yw-o=pə gaw-ə.
over=ALL carry-PFV-GER=DAT=REL much-COMP-P.M=REL thing-P.M find.PFV-1.S-3.P.M=COMP be_necessary.IPFV-3.S.M
[ˈbukʰtɕʰækʼ ˈkʼɑhlɐtsʰɐtɕʰæzɐ ˈtʰolsæjɐmzɐ ˈjɔɾmu ˈɣɔjwopʰɐ ˈɡæwɐ]
I need to find more things to translate.

[Ser]

Buk=tšak' k'áh-lə-tsə=tša=zə tol-sa-yəm=zə yår-mu ġå-yw-o=pə gaw-ə.
over=ALL carry-PFV-GER=DAT=REL much-COMP-P.M=REL thing-P.M find.PFV-1.S-3.P.M=COMP be_necessary.IPFV-3.S.M
[ˈbukʰtɕʰækʼ ˈkʼɑhlɐtsʰɐtɕʰæzɐ ˈtʰolsæjɐmzɐ ˈjɔɾmu ˈɣɔjwopʰɐ ˈɡæwɐ]
I need to find more things to translate.

naupi antama rinre yatti tini utukassin anka mekaparte
naupi an-tama rinre yatti tini, utu-kassi-n anka mekaparte.
servant AGT-serve downwards throw this, tongue-carry.across-INF all Mahabharata.
I would like to humbly suggest translating the whole Mahabharata.

kus ninni tan yaika kirkamei · raya nammi printe un
kus nin-ni, tan yaika kirkam-ei. raya nammi printe un.
if not-not, then story Gilgamesh-GEN. thus reach base too.
Or at least the twelve tables of the Epic of Gilgamesh.

[jal]

Oda, yu me tahn Obit Ya, wen im go swit yu.
Or you could translate the Hobbit, in case you like it.


JAL

[Travis B.]

Babel došey-šan-də buk-wə=tšak' džih k'áh-lə-yo.
Babel write-PAT-DEF.S.M over-3.S.M=ALL just carry-PFV-1.S
[ˈbæbel doˈɕejɕændɐ ˈbukʰwɐtɕʰækʼ ˈdʑih ˈkʼɑhlɐjo]
I just translated the Babel text.

[Soap]

Bafiapombwefi, tši labbiompirumbi.
I took my diphenhydramine pills, then went to bed.

[Travis B.]

Sa=tša Kámt-e Ġokə ġá-yen-še!
2.S.M=DAT happy-S.F year exist.IPFV-SJV
Have a happy New Year!

[litrobotix]

Ṭdeke pkádḷakṭaḍa!
[ˈʈdeke ˈpkəɖlakʈaɖa]
May your New Year be happy!
Be.happy.ABS.FUT.3SG new.year-your-ABS

[hwhatting]

I just translated the Babel text.

Daic i nus!
show-PRES.IPTV.2SG 3SG-N.ACC 1PL-DAT
Show it to us!

Pítiscun newun wetor cailaifus!
peaceful-N.SG.ACC new-N.SG.ACC year-SG.ACC all-M.PL.DAT
A peaceful new year to all!

[jal]

Ye, api nyu ye olda yunu!
Yeah, happy new year all of you!


JAL

[Travis B.]

I just translated the Babel text.

Daic i nus!
show-PRES.IPTV.2SG 3SG-N.ACC 1PL-DAT
Show it to us!

Ts'i de=k'ə ġá-yə.
DIST.S.M PROX.S.M=LOC exist.IPFV-3.S.M
It is here.

[hwhatting]

It is here.

Nu dolchunus im. Wit i ni widun.
PRTC obliged-M.SG.NOM be-PRES.ACT.1SG.CLIT. PRTC 3SG-N.SG.ACC see-PRET.NONACT.1SG
Thanks. I hadn't seen it.
Pi littera "Ǝ" daicít?
what-ACC letter-SG.NOM mean-PRES.ACT.3SG PRTC
What does the letter "Ǝ" stand for?

[Travis B.]

"Ǝ" tšir-yə=zə "ə" ti-y-wə.
"Ǝ" big-S.M=REL "ə" equal.IPFV-3.S.M-3.S.M
"Ǝ" is capital "ə".

De [ɐ] ripa-y-ri.
DIST.S.M [ɐ] represent-3.S.M-3.S.F
It represents [ɐ].

[Uruwi]

"Ǝ" tšir-yə=zə "ə" ti-y-wə.
"Ǝ" big-S.M=REL "ə" equal.IPFV-3.S.M-3.S.M
"Ǝ" is capital "ə".

Arka:
ax, an siina "Ǝ" nod "Ə". "Ə" et beim.
yes, I like "Ǝ" > "Ə". "Ə" be ugly.
Yes, I prefer "Ǝ" over "Ə". "Ə" is ugly.

[masako]

kopa nai kaya biyada eshwa
dog 1s-GEN COP-3s area.beside-LOC house-ACC
My dog is beside the house.




Been working on Amal. Limping along, as productive as possible. ;)

[jal]

Mi in af no on. An wen mi go af on, im in me de say fo mi os, kos im da in af no say-dem (fo mi ray neba os-dem ray bohda fo mi wan).
I don't have a dog. And if I had a dog, it couldn't be beside my house, since it doesn't have sides (my neighbours' houses directly border mine).


JAL

[hwhatting]

Nu su cús mai domé toyai máterai mai werit.
PRTC ART-M.SG.NOM dog-SG.NOM 1SG-DAT house-SG.LOC ART-F.SG.DAT mother-SG.DAT 1SG-DA live-PRES.ACT.3SGT
My dog lives at my mother's house.

And if I had a dog, it couldn't be beside my house, since it doesn't have sides (my neighbours' houses directly border mine).

Al tommoi domoi tai protera sam efteraf poxás ennun mochoris.
But ART-M.SG.DAT house-SG.DAT 2SG-DAT front-F.SG.NOM with back-F.SG.INSTR side-PL.NOM be-INF can-PRES.ACT.3PL
But your house can have a front and back side.

[jal]

But your house can have a front and back side.

Ray. Oba dis in kol de "say" os, it a kol de "fwonsay" o "baksay" os.
True. But this wouldn't be called "beside" the house, but "in front of" or "behind" the house.


JAL

[Travis B.]

Kil gåm-tša šu ketə ġáyə.
dog 1.S=DAT NEG either exist.IPFV-3.S.M
I don't have a dog either.