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Eandil wrote:
legolasean wrote:Né. Populs est music!
No. People.Pl to-be music
No. People are music.

'n se tim, cudt um person datr mua um brifestors en le conversasion?
On this time, to-be-can.past.3sg INDF person to-give 1sg.DAT INDF brief-story on DEF conversation?
BTW, Could someone give me a brief overview of this conversation?
Man i 'wervorighen "cudt"?
[mɑn i wɛɾ.vo.ɾi.en kud]
What is the etymology of "cudt"?

U-est them an i lybim ef. Sa elvan alui.
[u.ɛst θɛm an i ly.bim ɛv sa el.van ɑ.lwi]
There's no topic for what we talk here. It's all random.
cudt > cuder 'to-be-can' > chiotter 'to-be-can' > quere 'to be able to'

Auc um tim, tu ais ums Romlangs? Je est um buc fanat de ses.
Also do you have aNY Romlangs? I'm a biiig fan of those.
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Skomakar'n wrote:Kæwataus ómalnufiauzi!
kæ‹›w-atá‹›w-ˤh-z óma‹l›n-ʷf-j-ˤ‹w-z›i
I've made noodles!
be_slender-to_bake-3P-INAN to_craft<PAST>-TRA-1P-OBJ<3P-INAN>
[ˈkæwɑdɑʊ̯s̻ ˈɔːmɑŋʊ̤̯ɸɪ̯ˌɑʊ̯z̻ɯ̯]
Twes zún a?
[twɛˈzːuːna]
Q.ADJ kind COP
What kind?
疏我啲英文同語言學一樣咁屎!
[sɔː˥ ŋɔː˩˧ tiː˥ jɪŋ˥mɐn˧˥ tʰʊŋ˩ jyː˩˧jiːn˩hɔk̚˨ jɐt̚˥jœːŋ˧ kɐm˧ siː˧˥]
sor(ry) 1.SG POSS English and linguistics same DEM.ADJ shit

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Bik sifap sugirt alamuc.
[bik sifap sugiɾt alamuʈʂ]
this conversation depend-PRS vocabulary
The conversation here depends on vocabulary.

New word: alamuc
muc = mouth
alahir = to speak
It was about time I changed this.

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12 megabits gucht mua a Sims 3 a charger
12 megabite.pl to-leave.PAST 1sg.DAT to Sims 3 to to-download
12 megabites left for sims 3 will download
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Kaenif wrote:
Skomakar'n wrote:Kæwataus ómalnufiauzi!
kæ‹›w-atá‹›w-ˤh-z óma‹l›n-ʷf-j-ˤ‹w-z›i
I've made noodles!
be_slender-to_bake-3P-INAN to_craft<PAST>-TRA-1P-OBJ<3P-INAN>
[ˈkæwɑdɑʊ̯s̻ ˈɔːmɑŋʊ̤̯ɸɪ̯ˌɑʊ̯z̻ɯ̯]
Twes zún a?
[twɛˈzːuːna]
Q.ADJ kind COP
What kind?
Ajununz ómazlnasanunzi gœydi.
aj‹›w-n-ʷn-z óma‹z-l›n-ˤh-z-ˤ‹n-ʷn-z›i gœ́‹›d-j
I think they're made with eggs.
to_sleep-PL-4P-INAN to_craft<SUBJ-PAST>-3P-INAN-OBJ<PL-4P-INAN> to_believe-1P
[ˈɑjʊnʊ̃nz̻ ˈɔːmɑz̻ŋɑs̻ˌɑnʊ̃nz̻ɯ̯ ˈɰˠœʏ̯ðɯ̯]
ol bofosh wrote:alahir = to speak
Alâir wēano! 8)
alâir-Ø wēano-Ø
That's a pretty word! 8)
beautiful-SG.N.NOM word-SG.N.NOM
/aˈlaː.ɪr ˈwɛː.anɔ/ (classic),
/(aˈ)laɪ̯r ˈwɛː.anɔ~ˈwɛʊ̯nɔ/ (modern)
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Online dictionary for my conlang Vanga: http://royalrailway.com/tungumaalMiin/Vanga/

#undef FEMALE

I'd love for you to try my game out! Here's the forum thread about it:
http://zbb.spinnwebe.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36688

Of an Ernst'ian one.

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Skomakar'n wrote:I've made noodles!
Image
Yang naynay. Le lautayang adanya kayvo nikaya mesam nay suranya bari siya eng hangaran terpasānena tamala.
1S.ACT and~and. PT fry-1S.ACT that.T with potato-LOC half and ball-LOC meat REL-LOC AT.INAN remain-3PL.INAN lunch-GEN yesterday.
Me, too. I fried them with half a potoato and a meatball that remained of yesterday's lunch.

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Jipí wrote:
Skomakar'n wrote:I've made noodles!
Image
Yang naynay. Le lautayang adanya kayvo nikaya mesam nay suranya bari siya eng hangaran terpasānena tamala.
1S.ACT and~and. PT fry-1S.ACT that.T with potato-LOC half and ball-LOC meat REL-LOC AT.INAN remain-3PL.INAN lunch-GEN yesterday.
Me, too. I fried them with half a potoato and a meatball that remained of yesterday's lunch.
Kalidýks aqquldufiauzi.
ka‹›lj-dý‹›Ø-Ø‹›g-ˤh-z a‹›qq-(ʷ)‹l›dd-ʷf-j-ˤ‹w-z›i
I put in (poured) cream.
to_swell-be_fat/milk-to_give-3P-INAN to_bleed-CAUS<PAST>-TRA-1P-OBJ<3P-INAN>
[ˈkɑɾɯðyːx͡s̻ ˈɑqːʊldʊ̤̯ɸɪ̯ˌɑʊ̯z̻ɯ̯]

The semantics of a causative to bleed indicate that any liquid is poured ("made bled") is due to older semantics of the root.
Online dictionary for my conlang Vanga: http://royalrailway.com/tungumaalMiin/Vanga/

#undef FEMALE

I'd love for you to try my game out! Here's the forum thread about it:
http://zbb.spinnwebe.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36688

Of an Ernst'ian one.

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Lei mei peadei san madei. Depòi o par de jèdme de sol, jancoài çò plov com o taor che meai. Jèu ai zòst caminat al trafic, vestèn-me de na coaza impermeavla e na capèla. E o cisme cu bocaglei antele soagle dele calei jèu no sapaja. Jèu foja mad alei peglacei. Adura san sedoit antel bragetat e tricó, e jèu trèmblo del zelat. En agust, lanaica de madro.

My feet are soaking wet. After a couple of weeks of sun, it's pissing it down today. I've just walked to the tobacconists, wearing a waterproof jacket and a hat. And a pair of boots with holes in the soles that I didn't know about. I got soaked through and am now sitting in my underwear, shivering cold. In fucking August.
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Ang sarayo tadayen-ngas siming ban bahisya-kay marin bavesangya nā.
AT leave-3SN always=almost weather.T good day-LOC=few in_front birthday-LOC 1S.GEN
The good weather almost always leaves a few days before my birthday.

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Skomakar'n wrote:
ol bofosh wrote:alahir = to speak
Alâir wēano! 8)
alâir-Ø wēano-Ø
That's a pretty word! 8)
beautiful-SG.N.NOM word-SG.N.NOM
/aˈlaː.ɪr ˈwɛː.anɔ/ (classic),
/(aˈ)laɪ̯r ˈwɛː.anɔ~ˈwɛʊ̯nɔ/ (modern)
Omon ecawt.
[omon eʈʂawt]
1s-2s thank-PRS
Thank you.

That's where "Alahithian" comes from. :)
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It was about time I changed this.

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Jipí wrote:Image
Ang sarayo tadayen-ngas siming ban bahisya-kay marin bavesangya nā.
AT leave-3SN always=almost weather.T good day-LOC=few in_front birthday-LOC 1S.GEN
The good weather almost always leaves a few days before my birthday.
O, duncei jè la falta toja!
Ah, so it's your fault then!

Cand jestrà el toi aniversare?
When is your birthday?
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Dewrad wrote:Cand jestrà el toi aniversare?
When is your birthday?
Ya Perinena.
LOC Sun-GEN
(On) Sunday.

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Jipí wrote:
Dewrad wrote:Cand jestrà el toi aniversare?
When is your birthday?
Ya Perinena.
LOC Sun-GEN
(On) Sunday.
Kuwwzdńæhhæmi!
kú‹›w-w‹z-t›ń-ˤh-ˤ‹m›i
May you have a good day!
be_good-to_dawn<SUBJ-FUT>-3P-OBJ<2P>
[ˈkʊwːz̻dn̩æħːˌæmːɯ̯]
Online dictionary for my conlang Vanga: http://royalrailway.com/tungumaalMiin/Vanga/

#undef FEMALE

I'd love for you to try my game out! Here's the forum thread about it:
http://zbb.spinnwebe.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=36688

Of an Ernst'ian one.

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legolasean wrote:12 megabits gucht mua a Sims 3 a charger
12 megabite.pl to-leave.PAST 1sg.DAT to Sims 3 to to-download
12 megabites left for sims 3 will download
Watch out with "megabits", because a bit is an eighth of a byte. It's worth noting that in French they call bytes octets, perhaps for this very reason.

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I'm not gonna translate this since it's late and the point of this message concerns inventing words which, ultimately, I'd have to invent a lot of in order to discuss inventing words.

Anyway,

How do you all usually go around creating words from other words? A bunch of you said for the Music question that you took "Airblurg" and "Bamp" and got "Aeblang" or something. My point is that you didn't just hack the end off of one word and stick it on the front half of the other and I was wondering what processes you follow when trying to combine two words to make a new meaning.

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compounding processes are useful

in kett, you don't go airblurg + blamp -> airblurgblamp, it's airblurgblampi because fossilized construct state now used to mark the second element in a compound

similarly, in german it is airblurgsblamp sometimes, fuck only knows when, but that is a natlang so
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finlay wrote: Watch out with "megabits", because a bit is an eighth of a byte. It's worth noting that in French they call bytes octets, perhaps for this very reason.
perhaps also because "byte" would sound like "bite" [bit]
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파 탑연테 시여 니니ᄐ ᄋ아ᄐ 우ᄐ 파 악 콜피타. 뚜앙 에 파 따끼세.
pa tapyen-te siye ninit ngat ut pa ak kolpita. tsuang e pa tsaqise.
I would answer your questions but I cannot be bothered. I am in bed and very tired.
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Kaenif wrote:
Christopher Schröder wrote:Leute
['løː.ta]
Music.
Haid hweb a!
[ˈxaitxwɛba]
music human COP
Music is people!
I felly nied.
[iː fɛl.ɪ niə̯d]
I don't follow.

Huy es it whiet Tuides Leute sint ?
[hɛʊ̯ ɛz ɪt ʍiə̯t 'tɛʊ̯.dɪz 'løː.ta sɪnt]
How are People Music?
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Ama zedoyt savod kam? Ama zedoyt sifef kam?
Are we human or are we dancer?
It was about time I changed this.

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Christopher Schröder wrote:I felly nied.
[iː fɛl.ɪ niə̯d]
I don't follow.
Klhime a shrokoxe na inlish-srine ateilh ron a "I nearly fell" srine.
I read that dyslexically & English-wise as "I nearly fell".

Ox xone oan-na etetriz, khlime a ekeke ziro-na ateilh ron.
But the spelling was so bad I re-read it.

Ilhe oalho-na ateilh anretono. ;)
At which point I realized my error. ;)

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ol bofosh wrote:Ama zedoyt savod kam? Ama zedoyt sifef kam?
Are we human or are we dancer?
횩사 까 인깜시 탕 떤사 니.
hyok-sa qa inqamsi tang tsen-sa ni.
I hated that song when it came out.

타이코 파 칼 야우까타 파 메이 포타 QI (쿠 아이).
taiko pa kal yao-qata pa mei pota pa 'QI' (ku ai).
I am bored and I want to go to sleep but I am watching QI.
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Nannalu wrote:
ol bofosh wrote:Ama zedoyt savod kam? Ama zedoyt sifef kam?
Are we human or are we dancer?
횩사 까 인깜시 탕 떤사 니.
hyok-sa qa inqamsi tang tsen-sa ni.
I hated that song when it came out.
Whiet Sonck ?
[ʍiə̯t sɔŋk]
What Song?
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Christopher Schröder wrote:
Nannalu wrote:
ol bofosh wrote:Ama zedoyt savod kam? Ama zedoyt sifef kam?
Are we human or are we dancer?
횩사 까 인깜시 탕 떤사 니.
hyok-sa qa inqamsi tang tsen-sa ni.
I hated that song when it came out.
Whiet Sonck ?
[ʍiə̯t sɔŋk]
What Song?
Dancer 로 The Killers. 인깜시 희 니!
'Dancer' lo The Killers. inqamsi hui ni!
Dancer by The Killers. It's a bad song!
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Nannalu wrote:
Christopher Schröder wrote:
Nannalu wrote:
ol bofosh wrote:Ama zedoyt savod kam? Ama zedoyt sifef kam?
Are we human or are we dancer?
횩사 까 인깜시 탕 떤사 니.
hyok-sa qa inqamsi tang tsen-sa ni.
I hated that song when it came out.
Whiet Sonck ?
[ʍiə̯t sɔŋk]
What Song?
Dancer 로 The Killers. 인깜시 희 니!
'Dancer' lo The Killers. inqamsi hui ni!
Dancer by The Killers. It's a bad song!
Ah, thot Ord „Donsier" mônt me in thos Sonck tenchen.
[ɑː ðɔt ɔə̯d dɔnziə məʊ̯nt meː ɪn ðəʊ̯z sɔŋk tɛnʃɪn]
Ah, the Word "Dancer" made me think of this Song.
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