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kelerisitikisi xe vailarianerikisi
Cladistics and phylogenetics!
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Imralu wrote:Cladistics and phylogenetics!
Ray ray!
Exactly!


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Yae, du haws rest. Elychad gros.
Yeah, you're right. Gross phenotype misled me.

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mulas eni ixi o ixi tiaka
be.liked DAT.1s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF exist NOM.3s.INAN.DEF be.object
I like things and stuff.

ha ieui
Q DAT.2p.ICS
And you?
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Wqp jjep chi ye bbytkzp gup yax yit.
[wɒ̄ ⁿdʒē tʃī jē ⁿbź̩kə̀ gù jâ jí]
I hate everything.
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jal wrote:
R.Rusanov wrote:in my opinion your post is jar jar binks tier and very disturbing and racist
Poloji, ova mi in si no wan woh yu jos tok, bwo!
I'm sorry, but I didn't understand a single word of what you just said, dude!
Shayed iinweeii tha liingwai üyan likhna. XP
Maybe that's because it's in a different language. XP
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Woo pesénd kerná yoou nii lipíi ne
I like your script.
Nortaneous wrote:Wq jjep chi ye bbytkzp gup yax yit.
[wɒ̄ ⁿdʒē tʃī jē ⁿbź̩kə̀ gù jâ jí]
I hate everything.
Dushmeníi durbel, ai srhe shektíi.
Hatred is weak, love is strength.
Tana, Iáin voyre so Meď im soa mezinä, řo pro sudir soa mezinä, ac pro spasian soa mezinë ab ilun.

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Wqp jjep mt ye kztmq chax chencyp yejvp. Zzt wqx bbq ye chyp?
[wɒ̀ ⁿdʒè ḿ jē kə́mɒ̄ tʃâ tʃēɴtsz̩̀ jēdʒv̩̀. dzź̩ wɒ̂ ⁿbɒ̄ jē tʃʒ̩̀]
I'm going to cut off your head. Who will be weak then?
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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kka xume ku bula kuajo bala
be.not be.necessary NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC be.head BEN.C be.strong
You do not need a head in order to be strong.

kka bula iumi muja hueva bala za tuhu eni.
be.not be.head GEN.3p.ICS.SPC be.initiated.man be.most be.strong REL be.known[connaître] DAT.1s.ICS
Some of the strongest men I know do not have heads.
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Άλοι στους πολύ φόρτας όμνας τους ογνόσκω ράποντε καύτες.
Some of the strongest men I know crush heads.

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xue tiaia
be.also do.that2
That too!
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Clearsand wrote:Dushmeníi durbel, ai srhe shektíi.
Hatred is weak, love is strength.
Qtur vozeğoztaa tuḏakaa rziq : natkul xalei sit : xool eğarur sit ::
Love and hate are both instruments: strength if you control them, weakness if they control you.

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Yunu tok sem bonc a Klinggon, fi tok pon swong an wik an et an an. A mi go a laymin an no wori wori bo no ting!
Y'all sound like a bunch of Klingons, talking about strong and weak and hate and so on. Me I'd go relaxing and not worry about anything!


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zoi tiaia lo zola iu kisi
say do.that2 ADV be.solely NOM.3s.ANIM.NSPC be.feeble
Only the weak would say such a thing.

jakua bula nu ue
flatten be.head NOM.1s.ICS ACC.2s.ACS
I'll crush your head.

kulu kisi ixu kaligo lo zoha
hear be.feeble NOM.3p.INAN.DEF be.Klingon ADV fight.without.weapons
From what I have heard, the Klingons are weak without their weapons.

ha gehuo to jakua bula nu xi jeu
if meet thus flatten head NOM.1s.ICS ACC.3s.INAN.DEF be.same
If I meet one, I'll crush its head too.*

Literally jakua bula means 'head-crush' This could potentially also mean 'I'll crush it/you
with my head.' Of course there are ways to disambiguate but I like this. This Ngolu is using the
inanimate gender to refer to Klingons which implies that they are fit to be killed or used as slaves.

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zara heitiema nu oza kkas o
write be.coloured-be.bug NOM.1s.ICS ESS.3s.ACS.SPEC be.neg exist
I'll write in dark red when I'm in character.

Literally: "I write bug-coloured as a person who does not exist."

hua zaha gazau iju jaqu
be.AOR fight.without.weapons fight.with.weapons NOM.3p.ICS.DEF be.Ngolu.man
The Ngolu are a combative bunch.

bas ahe iju balu
be.very be.indeed NOM.3p.ICS.DEF be.balu
The 'balu', the royal guard and law enforcers, are especially so.

evu jala imulas eni xu ilia guui
VOC.2s.ICS be.Jal PRED-be.liked DAT.1s.ICS NOM.3s.ICS.DEF be.speech COP-GEN.2s.ICS.
Jal, I like your language.
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Imralu wrote:Only the weak would say such a thing.
Mi swit wik an it som koko rom de wohm bic af son pas fay olda de an gona det! Yu les kom kol pon Sajiwa som de, an laymin steda fay!
I'd rather be weak and drink coco rum* on a warm beach with sun shine than fight all day and get killed! You should visit Sajiwa some day, and hang out instead of fighting!

* Sajiwan's national drink, coconut milk with rum.
I'll write in dark red when I'm in character.
Wen dis kes, mi gona ray gwin.
In that case, I'll be writing green.
Jal, I like your language.
Bles yu!
Thank you!

Note on pronunciaten: <wi> is pronounced [y:].


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Yinzalu, "luse" puguzi yatatalakikakupeza fan. Zanfuzupitisa "yeuluse" lusezantuu sintupezai sikusategaza!
Imralu, be every-time neg-keep-write-must-agr-2=emph. Your-build-language "zero-be" be-agr=rel fut-pfv-say-2=and fut-stop-should-2!
Imralu, you don't have to write "be" every time in the gloss. Just say your lang is zero copula and be done with it!

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Cyp chencyp chzpchz pv reratkypchg ye wqp.
[tsz̩̀ tʃēɴtsz̩̀ tʃə̀tʃə̄ pʙ̩̄ ʒēʒákʒ̩̀tʃŋ̩̄ jē wɒ̀]
I relax by cutting off heads.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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au labuiu teuos emakubiu
first be.slothful second go.to.ruin
Laziness leads to ruin.

ka giunu xu tia lahi
be.PROS COP-POS.1p.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF be.that2 be.beach
That beach will be ours (exclusive).

kua jakua ixi va bula
be.JUSS flatten ACC.3p.INAN.DEF be.all be.head
Crush all the heads!


tieui nu
apologise NOM.1s.ICS
Sorry!

amie kues atai nu je
attempt cause be.benevolent NOM.1s.ICS ACC.3s.ACS
I'm trying to get him to be nice.

ttu zuo lobe jas eje mio
seem NOM.C be.funny NOM.3s.ACS.DEF DAT.3s.ACS.DEF be.self
I think he thinks he's funny.

zoua zuo no mahu
be.difficult NOM.C receive be.known
It's hard to know.

kka xevuas e xu moxo guje
be.not show ACC.3s.INAN.NSPC NOM.3s.INAN.DEF be.face COP-GEN.3s.ACS.DEF
His face doesn't show anything.
finlay wrote:Yinzalu, "luse" puguzi yatatalakikakupeza fan. Zanfuzupitisa "yeuluse" lusezantuu sintupezai sikusategaza!
Imralu, be every-time neg-keep-write-must-agr-2=emph. Your-build-language "zero-be" be-agr=rel fut-pfv-say-2=and fut-stop-should-2!
Imralu, you don't have to write "be" every time in the gloss. Just say your lang is zero copula and be done with it!
teuas evu vinile mies ahe kilojeu xua
thank VOC.2s.ICS be.Finlay but be.indeed be.copula LOC.3s.INAN.DEF
Thanks Finlay, but it's not zero-copula.

kilozoha ixu tie kilo
be.verbal NOM.3p.INAN.DEF be.this1 be.word
Those words are verbals.

zoi xi kilojeu lo zoi jo jeu as euo kilosaio
say ACC.3s.INAN.DEF be.copula ADV say ACC.C be.same NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC be.two be.nominal
The copula is used to equate two nominals.

kka lo zoi jo jeu a kilosaios a kilozoha
be.not ADV say ACC.C be.same NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC be.nominal NOM.3s.INAN.NSPC be.verbal
It isn't (used) to equate a nominal and a verbal.

mue zoi jo kue kilozoha xu zi kilosaio
be.able say ACC.C cause be.verbal NOM.3s.INAN.DEF ACC.3s.INAN.NSPC be.nominal
It basically turns a nominal into a verbal.
  • nnu nu
    N-nu nu
    COP-NOM.1s.ICS NOM.1s.ICS
    I am me.

    gkuaui xu tie
    N-kuaui xu tie
    COP-BEN.2s.ICS NOM.3s.INAN.DEF be.this1
    This is for you.

    mala xu
    be.house NOM.3s.INAN.DEF
    It is a house.

    gahu ju oko
    howl NOM.3s.ICS.DEF be.dog
    The dog howls.

    oko ju gahu
    be.dog NOM.3s.ICS.DEF howl
    The thing that howls is a dog.

verbal: may be the head of the predicate, a modifier of another verbal or, when preceded by a nominal, subordinated within an argument
nominal / complementiser: is always the head of an argument unless ...
copula: allows a nominal to take on the roles of a verbal.


xes ezo mue ila vere ilia
and be.PRES be.able speak TOP.3s.INAN.NSPC be.language
And now I can talk about language!
finlay wrote:Yinzalu
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Vinile :-D
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i don't see what you've said is any different. i also don't see what you gain by putting it in every slot of the gloss. we get it, you have this quirky grammatical thing which doesn't actually seem all that quirky to me really.

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Nortaneous wrote:I hate everything.
Nortaneous wrote:Cyp chencyp chzpchz pv reratkypchg ye wqp.
[tsz̩̀ tʃēɴtsz̩̀ tʃə̀tʃə̄ pʙ̩̄ ʒēʒákʒ̩̀tʃŋ̩̄ jē wɒ̀]
I relax by cutting off heads.
Khan, nii pesénd-kerná leehoos ket two ma'atha'a ne. Na srhe uuttem shuurúu'uu-kerná, sii?
look 2sg like away cut PL head (like) that be good start correct ?
See, you like cutting off heads. That a start, right?
Tana, Iáin voyre so Meď im soa mezinä, řo pro sudir soa mezinä, ac pro spasian soa mezinë ab ilun.

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Muyiumiikiyyi, rungana yuunginginuupiringi kaawiikingiiwamata pangguuwunungi, nganga, umaaki naaraamiwaangiiki pinuittingapa?
your-<what.PL><ALL>thought less <COP>trouble\GEN-weigh <INTV>all\GEN-other head\GEN-cut and do\he <CAUS>get<and>\he little-<IND.PL>peace
What if cutting off heads is only a little less stressful than everything else, and he turns to it for brief respite?

Ippinguuppaamitu tuungaanungi.
little<COP>death/GEN-feel <COP-NOM>subject
This is kinda a morbid topic.

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finlay wrote:i don't see what you've said is any different. i also don't see what you gain by putting it in every slot of the gloss.
le jeu va
situation same all
Consistency.

via nu lo kka ixu ho bi
assess NOM.1s.ICS ADV not NOM.3p.INAN.DEF QUOT be
I'll try it without all the be's.

ha xabas eue?
Q happy.situation DAT.2s.ACS
Are you happy?

vahe tebi hue tahe xu le tali lo nia xu le jeu va
concede maybe more important NOM.3s.INAN.DEF situation simple ADV less NOM.3s.INAN.DEF situation same all
Sure, maybe simplicity is more important than consistency.

xevas ahe ba hues omio mie tebi gueua nia lumi
seen yes very more beautiful but maybe sometimes less understood
It looks much better but it's potentially not always as clear

vahe tizo kka varu
concede PRF-PROG not bad
Admittedly, there have been no problems so far.
finlay wrote:we get it, you have this quirky grammatical thing which doesn't actually seem all that quirky to me really.
:roll:

ha jave mio ha
Q throw self Q
Projection much?
valiums wrote:Ippinguuppaamitu tuungaanungi.
little<COP>death/GEN-feel <COP-NOM>subject
This is kinda a morbid topic.
ahe xe li o xui le mula
yes and begin exist ABL.3s.INAN.DEF situation liked
Yes, and it started with liking!

au mula teuo zaha gazau
first like second fight.without.weapons fight.with.weapons
Liking leads to violence.
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Wen pwaya de, wen mi laymin geda fi bwoda dem, som kon kopa kom kol pon minu, an im sta as as bo minu af bat kandi an wofo minu a laymin dis ples steda stodi de skul - bwoda, mi tel yu, wen mi go ol nof fi vot, mi vot pon di man im kac olda dis kon kopa dem gon fwom mi baksay!
Yesterday, when I was hanging out with my friends, some fucking cop came by, and he started to interogate us about whether we had drugs and why we were hanging around here instead of going to school - man, I'm telling you, when I'm old enough to vote I'm voting for the person that gets all these fucking cops off my back!


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nu iko kopa nu
NOM.1s.ICS PRED-similar cop NOM.1s.ICS
I'm kind of like a cop myself.

mie varuhu ija kopa kka goqu
but be.bad-INTENSIVE NOM.3p.ACS.DEF cop not Ngolu.person
But non-Ngolu cops are terrible.

kka hemas amie ko balu ija
not allowed attempt similar royal.guardist NOM.3p.ACS.DEF
They have no right to act like the royal guard of Oo.

jakua bula nu kuaue
flatten head NOM.1s.ICS BEN.2s.ACS
I will crush their heads for you.

teuo kue geni uas e huniaha
second cause COP-DAT.1s.ICS NOM.2s.ACS ACC.3s.INAN.NSPC drinkable-INTENSIVE
Then you will give me a drink.

ha tie to kka kue jaku nu xi bula guue
Q/if this1 thus not cause flat NOM.1s.ICS ACC.3s.INAN.DEF head COP-GEN.2s.ACS
If you do that, then I will not make your head flat.

jal wrote:bat kandi
drugs
:-D
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Lqa tsem obzhdame "bot" ga ba? Tsa lyachishxrim, lcharxal tse qam hamshi muqri khrindrim, mera mga kharshi ntsashrim sha mbzhgum, mera tsa emga jijish mbezdishrim.
What is this "vote", swamp-dweller? If you go to the mountains, the king's men will be many long days away, so they won't go up and tell you what to do, so you won't have to worry about them.
Siöö jandeng raiglin zåbei tandiüłåd;
nää džunnfin kukuch vklaivei sivei tåd.
Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei. Chei.

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hai aqu ja toi bozu je iju balu
[hàí àʔú ʒá tòí bòzú ʒé jʒú bàlú]
if.IRR in.Oo NOM.3s.ACS.DEF thus.IRR find.without.searching ACC.3s.ACS.DEF NOM.3p.ICS.DEF royal.guardist
If he were in Qu, the royal guard would find him.
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