The Official ZBB Quote Thread

[Aurora Rossa]

I thought it had to do with the cracking of the whips of slavers

That's what I've always heard as well.

[Rui]

Relevant

Note the whole "derogatory" thing as well as the "poor white trash" thing. As a side note, I personally have only ever heard it as an insult, never as anything lighter.

[Radius Solis]

Well shit, you learn something new every day. No wonder people would find it offensive if to them it means that, jesus. (Regardless of actual etymology.)

Thank you. I had no idea.

[Whimemsz]

<Draycks> legion
<Draycks> stop being so fatalistic
<Legion> sorry Draycks [+fatalism] is one of my contrastive features



[EDIT: changed this quote to a better one]

[linguoboy]

I never said I'm going to watch this show. I might, just because the boys look cute, but...I might not last long.

They're that cute, huh?

[Chuma]

To me, a cracker is a variety of hacker. But I was raised on the internets, I guess.

[Wattmann]

To me, a cracker is a variety of hacker. But I was raised on the internets, I guess.

Crackers are the people who crack copy-protection, hackers are the people who crack website, system, etc. security - that's how I've learned it.

[Bob Johnson]

To me, a cracker is a variety of hacker. But I was raised on the internets, I guess.

Crackers are the people who crack copy-protection, hackers are the people who crack website, system, etc. security - that's how I've learned it.

Kids these days.

[Pinetree]

To me, a cracker is a variety of hacker. But I was raised on the internets, I guess.

Crackers are the people who crack copy-protection, hackers are the people who crack website, system, etc. security - that's how I've learned it.

Crackers break security for malicious reasons. They are also referred to as "black hat" hackers, and the media generally dumps the term "hacker" on them, putting true hackers in a bad light. Hackers either break systems to test for flaws (and then report them to the network admins), or enjoy taking gadgets apart and repurposing them. They are also referred to as "white hat" hackers. Then there's "grey-hat" hackers, who do both...

Further muddying the issue is Anonymous, who are also called hackers by the media, but all the "hacking" that they usually do is inundating a website with access requests until it cannot take it any more (this is known as a Distributed Denial Of Service attack - a DDOS).

[Pthagnar]

and then there is "hacker" as in eric s raymond's eddyfetish -- see the appendices to any esr-curated version of the Jargon file for this, preferably the post-1990 versions (hackers, too, were affected by the fall of the Soviet Union)

[alice]

and then there is "hacker" as in eric s raymond's eddyfetish -- see the appendices to any esr-curated version of the Jargon file for this, preferably the post-1990 versions (hackers, too, were affected by the fall of the Soviet Union)

esr is on record as getting very annoyed by what he calls "crackers" referring to themselves as "hackers".

[Pthagnar]

he hasn't said so on his LARPing resume so it can't be that important

[Jetboy]

He used "and etc."
Which is wrong, by Electra!

he is one of the hoi polloi

[Herr Dunkel]

To me, a cracker is a variety of hacker. But I was raised on the internets, I guess.

Crackers are the people who crack copy-protection, hackers are the people who crack website, system, etc. security - that's how I've learned it.

Crackers break security for malicious reasons. They are also referred to as "black hat" hackers, and the media generally dumps the term "hacker" on them, putting true hackers in a bad light. Hackers either break systems to test for flaws (and then report them to the network admins), or enjoy taking gadgets apart and repurposing them. They are also referred to as "white hat" hackers. Then there's "grey-hat" hackers, who do both...

Further muddying the issue is Anonymous, who are also called hackers by the media, but all the "hacking" that they usually do is inundating a website with access requests until it cannot take it any more (this is known as a Distributed Denial Of Service attack - a DDOS).

It's not just DDoS, it's also Ion-Cannoning - they've once Ioned a website twenty-seven times in the timespan of six hours.
There's also the more refined Anons, who do the more intricate hacks and go through the website's security to get supermod privileges to it.
I believe that one US Govt website was anonysed like this (neologisms FTW )

And let us not mention that fun lair of fun called /b/chan...

[linguoboy]

[patiku]

And let us not mention that fun lair of fun called /b/chan...

Why, have we traveled back in time to 2004?

[Aurora Rossa]

Why? Has it become less racist and barbarous and so forth since then?

[Aurora Rossa]

Weird. Why is someone from Mali speaking Russian?

[Shm Jay]

Because he's a spammer, Eddy. They lie about where they are from.

[Shm Jay]

[We could be a male human one day a female dog the next and a stop sign the day after that

I would like to know how on earth one would get to be a stop sign in any imaginable culture or society.

[Herr Dunkel]

Why? Has it become less racist and barbarous and so forth since then?

No, it's just more idiotic (read: more frequented)

[hwhatting]

[We could be a male human one day a female dog the next and a stop sign the day after that

I would like to know how on earth one would get to be a stop sign in any imaginable culture or society.

Thusly.

[Torco]

HAMMERTIME

[Shrdlu]

[Shm Jay]

Thusly.

No, no, he doesn't get off that easily. That woman is not being a stop sign; she's just dressing up as one. Durakken said that people would be stop signs in the future age of singular wonders.