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That too. xD

Also the desert is only around the eastern bits, and it's a rainshadow desert, so it's the bits east of the city that don't really get snow.

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It occasionally snows in North Africa you know.

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Tomorrow, I leave to go back to Ohio to go back to university studies and the such. I'm looking forward to the semester, yes, and this is my first road trip on my own (9½ hours' drive that's pretty easy). But I really don't want to leave, because this break has been exactly what I needed mentally. I'm also nervous as all hell about the drive, especially with the reports of inclement weather forecast along the route (no snow, but rain). (Kurwa.)
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It hardly ever snows here, and I'm not even in a deserty dry place.

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It's a stupid thing to feel, but my friend went to visit another city for fun with a friend of his, but he never suggests that me and him should go somewhere, and when I suggest he always says he can't.

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That's absolutely not a stupid thing to feel, that's pretty jerkish of him.
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I feel a moral oblilgation to stay where I am, but I have an open and appealing invitation to move and I know that either choice I make could be seen as selfish and egoistic...

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How strong is that obligation to stay?

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Moral obligation as in what your conscience is telling you, or moral obligation as in social pressure?
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ol bofosh wrote:Moral obligation as in what your conscience is telling you, or what moral obligation as in social pressure?
Yeah, that's important. My answer...
If the obligation comes from your own conscience: obey it. That shit's there for a reason, don't do things you'll spend years regretting.
If it comes from social pressure and/or the general public ethos: ignore it. Maybe they're right, but it's important that you do what you really feel is right for you (and for your family, if this applies).
If you're not sure: spend some time figuring out which it is. And if you're still unsure after that, you probably do have some personal moral involvement, in which case obey it.

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I hate time, because I hate change. I love that time goes by quickly because the future is interesting and stuff, but I feel I'm leaving behind my "now" (2000's) forever, and that will never come back. It's like being alienated. My home is no longer what it used to be.

I won't probably die naturally until the 2080's or even the 2090's (though I can't be sure I'll die naturally). That's a lot of time to not feel inside myself. I need to change my perspective, but I don't want to stop feeling young like this either :F.

I guess I feel like this about time because almost all people I know are older than me - my sisters, my parents, my friends, my classmates... like I'm the last of ours, like nature demands I outlive all of these people and then die alone in a world so different from the one I was born to. I wish I had been born earlier, maybe so I could die sooner.

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It sucks, especially when there's nothing to age for.

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Ean wrote:It sucks, especially when there's nothing to age for.
It needs to be created. So create it! There is no papel to follow (and if there is it's a dead end).

And we never lose the inner child. I mean, 30 and still playing. :mrgreen:

Are we counselling today? lol
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Really, when you're like 40 or 50 and you begin looking at things from your childhood and teens, what do you feel? Isn't it kind of sad?

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Of course it's sad. It's very sad. That's something I experience every day, even at age 35.

But life is always providing new things to do, think about, try, or be. You eventually learn to cope with the fact that nothing more than the very basics of human life truly last, and that you'll be spending the rest of your life always adapting and accommodating to whatever "now" currently consists of and nostalgically looking back on what used to be. It's not always easy! But, after a while, you see that frankly it beats the hell out of stagnation.

Because you'll meet people who stagnate, who get stuck in 1998 or whatever for the rest of their lives, who at age 65 in the year 2045 will be acting like everything that has changed is horrifically evil and dangerous, or who will still be going on about Caturday or doing a barrel roll, and you will see all the horror of it and resolve not to be like them. I also know people who are 80 and still at least attempting to actively learn new things, do new things, be new things - without ever losing touch with how awesome the times were when they were young and trying to keep what was good about those times alive. Strive to be among those. I do.

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Ean wrote:I guess I feel like this about time because almost all people I know are older than me - my sisters, my parents, my friends, my classmates... like I'm the last of ours, like nature demands I outlive all of these people and then die alone in a world so different from the one I was born to.
there is at least one class of people who it is an unnatural tragedy to outlive: your children.

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You can infer I plan on dying childless.

Though all deaths, natural or unnatural, must be quite a bitch.

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Ean wrote:You can infer I plan on dying childless.

Though all deaths, natural or unnatural, must be quite a bitch.
Then that's where you're doing it wrong and setting yourself up for tragedy.

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ol bofosh wrote:Moral obligation as in what your conscience is telling you, or what moral obligation as in social pressure?
Yeah, that's important. My answer...
If the obligation comes from your own conscience: obey it. That shit's there for a reason, don't do things you'll spend years regretting.
If it comes from social pressure and/or the general public ethos: ignore it. Maybe they're right, but it's important that you do what you really feel is right for you (and for your family, if this applies).
If you're not sure: spend some time figuring out which it is. And if you're still unsure after that, you probably do have some personal moral involvement, in which case obey it.
I wish it could be as dichotomous as that. The obligation I feel is more of a mixture of personal and social. As for the possibility of regrets...Unfortunately, that is a feeling I am already experiencing.

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By not bringing yet another human being into this world? I'd make a pretty bad parent.

Also, is that the purpose of children? To not die alone? That's cowardice.

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Ean wrote:By not bringing yet another human being into this world? I'd make a pretty bad parent.

Also, is that the purpose of children? To not die alone? That's cowardice.
the purpose of children is to keep civilisation going. another purpose is to give you a reason not to be a shitty parent [that is, person].

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Pthagnar wrote:the purpose of children is to keep civilisation going.
My bad then, I don't find "keeping civilization going" something valuable at all.

Also children as a motivator for being a good person hardly works; since there's a lot of children in the world and it's still filled with assholes.

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