ZBB Census

Queen Xalele · Post by **Queen Xalele** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:48 am

Age Bracket: 13-18
Sex: Female
Nationality: Ukrainian(?)-American (Trying to find information on my father in a very, very tight-lipped family.)
State/Province/Other Subdivision: Rhode Island, USA
Occupation: Student, guest service representative at travel destination, freelance model
Sexual Orientation: Homosexual
Status: Forever Alone
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: French, Spanish (lost over time)
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Japanese, Chinese, German
Religion: Atheist
Politics: Liberal
Height: 69 inches
Shoe size: 9½ US, 26.5JPN
Time since last drink: Alcohol intolerant
Handedness: Right, training myself to become ambidextrous

Gulliver · Post by **Gulliver** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:53 am

Age bracket: 25-40 (but only just)
Gender: Male
Nationality: English
State/Province/Other Subdivision: From the South East, now in the South West
Occupation: Student and translator and admin person and one of those people who stands in museum answering questions and making sure you don't steal things or break anything.
Sexual Orientation: Homosexual
Status: Engaged to be engaged.
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: French and German
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Time I have, effort I lack. Mandarin Chinese in my current interest.
Religion: None.
Politics: Formerly Lib Dem, now either Labour or Green. Probably Labour.
Handedness: Right
Who Would Win in a Fist Fight Between Michael Dorn and a Zombie Benjamin Whorf?: Romero zombie, voodoo zombie or Russo zombie?

sirred · Post by **sirred** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:15 am

Heh. Amerocentrism ahoy! When you said 'Southwest' I figured you meant Arizona until I hit the political section. Also, it's a modern 'fast' one to make a single encounter more interesting. Edit: I also apparently glazed over the 'Nationality: English' part.

Rui · Post by **Rui** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:39 am

Why not:

Age bracket: 18-25
Gender: Male
Nationality: American
State/Province/Other Subdivision: Born in NY, live in CT, go to school in NY
Occupation: Student
Sexual Orientation: Heterosexual
Status: Single
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: German, Mandarin, a little bit of Afrikaans
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: All of them. But in particular, Finnish, Russian, and [French|Italian|Spanish (not sure which)]
Religion: none
Politics: very liberal
Handedness: Left
Height: 5'9" (175cm)
Shoe size: 8.5-9 in the US system, whatever that is in other systems

I deleted the last question because I don't particularly care.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:55 am

Queen Xalele wrote: Shoe size: 9½ US, 26.5JPN

Ah! I was wondering what the numbers like 26 were. I memorised a number like 24 or 26 a few years back which was the one they always looked for at ski hire centres, but had no recollection of what system it was – I thought it was the European one, but that gives me a number like 42. I think that's my shoe size, anyway; I'm not even sure what it is for my own country, because I always go for something around 9 and hope that it fits. Sometimes it's too small and sometimes it's too big – seems to depend on the make. Also, they never take foot width into account – and everyone's feet are always different shapes; my left foot is shorter but wider than my right foot. Confusingly, we're 1 size different from the US system, so i think i'd be 10 over there*. Dunno why they can't just standardise it everywhere.

*holy shit, I've just realised this is probably triskaidekaphobia, since our highest child size is 13! So our child-13 probably became the US's adult-1 or something... oh damn, wikipedia says otherwise. oh well, nice theory...

Also, wikipedia tells me that the Asian system is just the foot length in cm, so it kinda makes sense that they might use it Europe sometimes too...

brandrinn · Post by **brandrinn** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:08 pm

Is anyone doing anything with this data, or is it just going into the void?

Age bracket: 25-40
Gender: Male
Nationality: American
State/Province/Other Subdivision: Georgia
Occupation: Student
Sexual Orientation: ?
Status: Single
Height: Nice try
Shoe size: 260 (Korean)
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: Japanese, Korean
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Mandarin, Arabic
Religion: None
Politics: Democrat
Handedness: Right
Who Would Win in a Fist Fight Between Michael Dorn and a Zombie Benjamin Whorf?: Dorn.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:11 pm

I'll knock something together tonight/tomorrow if you want. Can't do it now unfortunately.

Can we officially add the height and shoe size questions to the questionnaire, though? For example, I'm 169cm (5'6") and whatever number I said in my previous post for shoe size. I just think that'd be quite interesting.

Lyhoko Leaci · Post by **Lyhoko Leaci** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:44 pm

I've edited my post, but I'll just add it here, too.

Height: 5ft 6in / 168cm
Shoe size: 10 US
Time since last drink: ∞ years

Jipí · Post by **Jipí** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:04 pm

finlay wrote:I thought it was the European one, but that gives me a number like 42. I think that's my shoe size, anyway; I'm not even sure what it is for my own country, because I always go for something around 9 and hope that it fits. Sometimes it's too small and sometimes it's too big – seems to depend on the make. Also, they never take foot width into account – and everyone's feet are always different shapes;

Oh damn I hate buying shoes. That's even worse than buying other clothes. Mostly I have 42, but sometimes 42 will be too large and I need 41, which may be just a bit too small already. Shoes are far too wide mostly anyway. Or too high. Like my current shoes, which are a perfect fit in foot length and width, but seem to be made for people with clubfeet, height-wise. I couldn't find any that fit better though, without trying at least another two or three shoe shops. You really have a problem as a man if you have lower-average length, but narrow and rather flat feet. So while at least I don't usually run into trouble length-wise, I do width- and height-wise.

Bedelato · Post by **Bedelato** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:25 pm

Age: 17
Gender: Male
Nationality: American
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: Spanish (a little bit, in school, but I forgot most of it

)
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Old English
Religion: Atheist
Politics: Libertarian. Moral Politics put me at (-4, -3.5).
Handedness: Right
Who Would Win in a Fist Fight Between Michael Dorn and a Zombie Benjamin Whorf: Michael who?

masako · Post by **masako** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:36 pm

Jipí · Post by **Jipí** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:43 pm

sano wrote:Status: married (15 y)

WTH, you got married at 18? That's p. early.

masako · Post by **masako** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:46 pm

Guitarplayer wrote:
sano wrote:Status: married (15 y)
WTH, you got married at 18? That's p. early.

Actually, I was 19 by a month. But, yeah...early.

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:05 pm

OK, stats!

We have a sample size of 43 currently, although for the height and shoe size questions it's more like 6.

For age I took the midpoint for those who gave it as a bracket. The average was 24.

Gender: 38 men, 4 women and 1 undeclared

Nationality: 28 Americans, 5 British, 3 Swedes, 2 Canadians, and one each of Irish, Chilean, German, Maltese and Australian. I haven't looked at the states properly yet.

The most common profession was Student, by far. The award for coolest profession goes to The Count ("Composer").

With orientation there were a couple that I had to squeeze into a category slightly: Irma said he was gay but not interested in anyone, so I put gay; Tom said he used to be straight but now asexual, so I put asexual; and one person said he wasn't sure about being straight, but I put that anyway. There were a couple of "hetero-leaning bis" that could have gone into either straight or bi, so I put bi. I'm not really bothered if you have a problem with this, frankly, it's just a kludge to get the counting on Excel to work properly. It doesn't really have a bearing on anything, but I can change it if you're desperate. Anyway, I got:
20 straight, 8 gay, 5 bi, 2 questioning, 1 queer, 1 pan, 1 asexual

Status (ignoring ones that said things like "alive"): 28 single, 8 in a relationship, 2 engaged, 1 married, 1 divorced

I'll come back to language, religion and politics later; however, we're generally left-wing, atheist and speak English, French and Spanish. We have 7 complete monoglots and 3 natively multilingual people. Only one person (faiuwle) included programming languages in their lists.

Handedness: 34 right-handed, 2 left-handed, 5 ambidextrous

Worf vs. Whorf: Close call. 5 voted for Whorf, 7 voted for Worf and 6 didn't know what the hell this question was about. (ignoring people who put comedy answers – my favourite was "GEORGE WASHINGTON" – and those who didn't answer the question) Radius voted for Wharf, and I wasn't sure whether he was just misspelling it so I left it out. Worf wins, anyway.

Height: Average was 170.88 cm but the sample size was only 8.

Shoe size: Average was 41.9 EUR but the sample size was only 9.

Would you like me to put the spreadsheet on google docs?

Radius Solis · Post by **Radius Solis** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:18 pm

finlay wrote: Worf vs. Whorf: Close call. 5 voted for Whorf, 7 voted for Worf and 6 didn't know what the hell this question was about. (ignoring people who put comedy answers – my favourite was "GEORGE WASHINGTON" – and those who didn't answer the question) Radius voted for Wharf, and I wasn't sure whether he was just misspelling it so I left it out.

I didn't misspell anything. I answered with a third homophone!

Since you're doing stats on the data, I can be counted as gay. If you didn't already.

TomHChappell · Post by **TomHChappell** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:30 pm

Risla · Post by **Risla** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:41 pm

Age Bracket: 21.
Sex: Female
Nationality: From the US.
State/Province/Other Subdivision: Minnesota.
Occupation: Student/unemployed loser.
Sexual Orientation: Straight.
Status: Single, and that's unlikely to change.
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: Spanish, mostly-forgotten French, mostly forgotten Russian.
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Aymara, Nahuatl, Quechua, Lakota, Anishinabe.
Religion: None of the above.
Politics: Liberal.
Height: 71in/180cm
Shoe size: 12 wide US
Time since last drink: Forever.
Handedness: Extremely right-handed.
Who Would Win in a Fist Fight Between Michael Dorn and a Zombie Benjamin Whorf: A dwarf.

TomHChappell · Post by **TomHChappell** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:45 pm

Travis B. · Post by **Travis B.** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:56 pm

TomHChappell wrote:
Radius Solis wrote:I didn't misspell anything. I answered with a third homophone!
In what 'lect is "wharf" a homophone of "Whorf" and of "Worf"?
In what 'lects is "wharf" a homophone of either "Whorf" or "Worf"?

In the English I am familiar with, wharf, Whorf, and Worf most definitely are homophones unless one is distinguishing /w/ from /ʍ/, something I do on occasion but which most certainly is not native to my dialect...

(Frankly, I would expect all three to be homophones in most North American English varieties, or for that matter, most English English varieties... Unless you distinguish /w/ from /ʍ/, I am not sure how the three are not homophones for you, especially considering you are a North American living in Michigan, not some speaker of some odd rural English English dialect.)

(The only thing I can think of here is that wharf has at some point in the variety you speak gotten hypercorrected to something equivalent to either /wɑːrf/ or /ʍɑːrf/...)

TomHChappell wrote:Speaking of "homophones";
Today I heard a woman say [mIr\`] when she clearly meant ["mIr\` .@r\`].

Likewise, in the English I am most familiar with personally, mirror indeed is /mɪr/ not /mɪrər/...

Simmalti · Post by **Simmalti** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:06 am

I edited my post with height and shoe size.
Also I have English almost as a native language if that counts for something (although my accent is heavily influenced by Maltese)

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:22 am

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... y=CL-9hZcG

finlay · Post by **finlay** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:25 am

Radius Solis wrote:
finlay wrote: Worf vs. Whorf: Close call. 5 voted for Whorf, 7 voted for Worf and 6 didn't know what the hell this question was about. (ignoring people who put comedy answers – my favourite was "GEORGE WASHINGTON" – and those who didn't answer the question) Radius voted for Wharf, and I wasn't sure whether he was just misspelling it so I left it out.

I didn't misspell anything. I answered with a third homophone!

Since you're doing stats on the data, I can be counted as gay. If you didn't already.

I know, on both counts. I should have said I wrote it in but I didn't get the thing to count it because you were the only one with that answer. Have a look at the spreadsheet if that's not clear... I mean it's probably still not clear because I've used so many abbreviations and stuff, but yeah.

Incidentally, does anyone know of a spreadsheet function to count instances of a string within a cell rather than of cells that equal a string? It's so I could get it to count all the instances of "fr" or "de" in the languages list and save me having to go through it manually...

Ossicone · Post by **Ossicone** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:32 am

Interesting!

Thanks for the spreadsheet.

Astraios · Post by **Astraios** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:44 am

Simmalti wrote:I edited my post with height and shoe size.

Pretty much the same as me again! What else about you is the same size as me?! xD

HandsomeRob · Post by **HandsomeRob** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:50 am

Age: 33
Gender: Male
Nationality: American
State/Province/Other Subdivision: Wisconsin
Occupation: Cartographer
Sexual Orientation: Heterosexual
Status: Married
Native Language: English
Secondary Languages: None
Languages I Want to Learn but Don't Have the Time: Italian
Religion: none
Politics: Socialist
Handedness: Right
Who Would Win in a Fist Fight Between Michael Dorn and a Zombie Benjamin Whorf?: I have literally no idea what you're talking about.

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