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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:58 am 
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Sirdanilot: I was about to apologise to you for being bitchy yesterday, but.... nope, you're doing it again.

Why the fuck would I spend hours of my life perfecting a meal that you like but I don't? How can that possibly seem a helpful suggestion?

And in the spirit of that apology, I won't say the rest of what I'd like to say right now.

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Wow, does everyone on this forum overreact to every single thing in existence? Go make a cup of tea and calm down or something, wow. This is not just you, but I see this in a lot of threads and with a lot of people.

Your reasoning does not make sense. You don't like chicken because you don't know what to do with it, so I give some suggestions. You don't like them. Fair enough.
You complain that of the few things you would do with chicken, one usually fails (too dry), and give it as another reason not to eat chicken.
I suggest that you are doing something wrong when it comes out too dry.
You overreact.

If you want to know how to make a chicken leg, I'll gladly answer you, but if you don't then just go take a cold shower or something to cool down.


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Wow, yippee. You don't like chicken. Go celebrate.


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Salmoneus > I can fully emphatize with you over the tyrannic oppression you are here being the victim of; it's pretty much like that one time some pretentious asshole whose name I forgot was pestering Xephyr about trying more chocolate, even though Xephyr had repeatedly stated that every single time he had tasted chocolate, he hated it. Geeze, some people, eh?


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To make matters worse, Cev only said that he did not like chocolate, whereas you even gave three separate explanations for why chicken is bad!

Truly, some people are inconsiderate.


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A lot of my initial reaction came from real life experience, in which pharazon - years ago - told me he doesn't like chicken very much because it's too bland and boring. And for years now I've nevertheless fed it to him several times a week, on average, and with all the various things I do to it he rarely seems to find it actually bland or boring. (And that's not just politeness - he eats with visible enthusiasm.)

And the reason I bother, in addition to the health question, is the price.

For comparison, I would identify beef as having three basic price categories at my local Safeway:
Ground beef and the tough cuts like cube steak are the cheapest; usually about $4 to $5/lb.
Mid-range steak meat like ball tip and tri-tip go for $6 to $9/lb and I don't get them more than once or twice a month.
Expensive cuts of beef, from T-bone up through filet and rib roast, exceed $10/lb and in some cases twice that. My purchase of these is limited to Christmas and birthdays.

Brand-name chicken breast that's theoretically of higher quality may well be $8/lb or more, but I get the store brand, which has the base price of $6. But even then I most often don't buy it at that price. There are often sales reducing it to $5, and once in a while they become so overstocked that, just to sell it before it goes bad, they do a 50%-off sale. I take good advantage of those to stock up on it. So my cost for chicken averages to roughly the same as the cost of ground beef. Now, thigh meat is cheaper still - base price $4/lb - but I don't use it much because it's so awfully fatty and I don't like that. Unless I'm making some form of chicken soup, a task to which thigh is well suited because all that fat goes to enriching the broth.


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How many pounds is a chicken? The only time I eat it is when I buy a whole cooked chicken -- they're about $7 -- and throw some Old Bay or Worcestershire sauce on it. I can't imagine cooking actual dishes with chicken; it's so bland and so dry that anything that makes it good is too hard to make at home.

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The problem with this sort of statements is that that really depends on what you compare it to. Compared to beef, chicken is bland and dry. Compared to actually bland and dry things, chicken is tasty and succulent.

At least if it is good chicken, so when people say this sort of thing it is absolutely impossible to know if they just don't like chicken or if they've been eating shitty chicken.

tl;dr discussions about chicken will end in somebody throwing a fit

P.S. If your problem is in the dryness (and you haven't already), I recommend trying chicken soup. Use celery.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:38 am 
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Cheap beef is also bland and dry, but nowhere near as much as chicken: all you need to do is drop it in noodles with sauce (I like rice noodles, although they're hard not to overcook) and it's fine, whereas chicken only works well in pasta and why would anyone put meat in pasta that isn't ravioli. Also celery is awful.

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the best chicken is fried -- this is the fundamental error with chicken that people are making in this thread, perhaps because you are all racist. i had some karage chicken yesterday and it was delicious and not dry at all (except on the crispy surface)


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there certainly is a golden mean because i have eaten delicious fried chicken before. maybe you're not racist *enough*?


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the way to prepare fried chicken is: go to kfc

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