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Ok, well, you arbitrarily assign some value to some common product that everyone buys, and decide what everything's worth relative to that. If it's not centralised, this will likely differ from trade to trade. This is pretty much exactly how value-based currencies are set up a priori.


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So like... You take the weight of a metal and you measure the weight of another thing compared to that?
"Worth its weight in gold"

Or do you mean some random guy decides that his coin has a value of 12 and that a cow has a value of 4?

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Well, it's basically equivalent to modern denomination-based currency, but instead of the value of each type of unit being some arbitrary number, the value is directly equivalent to its weight, so that a 'coin' twice the weight of another also has twice the value.


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Yup. It's largely based on what people decide the goods are worth relative to each other. So, say you'd be happy to trade 10 of your famous sand-cakes for a small piece of that magical metal everyone wants. Then that piece of metal is worth 10 times whatever the cakes are worth. Which is why you ought to pick a product and fix its value. Then, any other products you need to assign value to can be considered in terms of that first product (or via a chain ultimately leading back to that product)


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Of course; I reckon that if a famine occurs the plants will be scarce and expensive and thus the obsidian coin may be of less value, whereas if there is an abundance of the plants... And so the plant is cheaper and the coin has higher value..?

Ah economics I know nothing of.
I just wanted to know how this weight-based currency works...

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Well, now you know.


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I still feel unsure how this works...
Does it work like this:

Supposing you want to buy a cow, but it is worth 40 tokkuls.
The tokkul is a standard unit of 120 gram made of obsidian, and is equivalent to a 1.2kg small sack of grain (there is also units of medium and large, being 6kg and 12kg respectively)
So you bring your bag full of tokkuls, put it on the weight scale and sees that all is good.
Cow is bought.

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Yes. Determining how much 'money' you have is simple - merchants will have a set of weights corresponding to various multiples of the base value, with which you can measure out any multiple of the base weight. You then measure out the correct weight of 'money', and buy the cow.


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Birds use coins called pinss (from pence) and paper money called dola (from dollar). The coins are stainless steel, and the paper money has a picture of a dancer on it. The money comes in coins of 1, 5, 10, 20, 35, 50, 100 Ƥ and paper money in 1, 2, 5, 10, 15, 40, 65, 100 ᵭ (but a capital d with a middle tilde). This is for paying the tax of varying amount on something. Everything is free except the tax is how you pay. And it is really spelt pèns and dōlā.

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What has happened to the right edge? Something bitten out?

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