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KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:I dunno, I wanna use obsidian as a currency of some sort. But I don't know how a weight-based system will work...
"I say that cow is worth 8 tokkul..."

Exactly as arbitrarily as modern currency.

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:I dunno, I wanna use obsidian as a currency of some sort. But I don't know how a weight-based system will work...
"I say that cow is worth 8 tokkul..."

Exactly as arbitrarily as modern currency.

Of course, but that isn't what I mean...

KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:I dunno, I wanna use obsidian as a currency of some sort. But I don't know how a weight-based system will work...
"I say that cow is worth 8 tokkul..."

Exactly as arbitrarily as modern currency.

Of course, but that isn't what I mean...

Then what do you mean? In what way do you not understand how it works?

Hallow XIII wrote:> tokkul

really

KathAveara wrote:Well, it's basically equivalent to modern denomination-based currency, but instead of the value of each type of unit being some arbitrary number, the value is directly equivalent to its weight, so that a 'coin' twice the weight of another also has twice the value.

KathAveara wrote:Yup. It's largely based on what people decide the goods are worth relative to each other. So, say you'd be happy to trade 10 of your famous sand-cakes for a small piece of that magical metal everyone wants. Then that piece of metal is worth 10 times whatever the cakes are worth. Which is why you ought to pick a product and fix its value. Then, any other products you need to assign value to can be considered in terms of that first product (or via a chain ultimately leading back to that product)

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:Yup. It's largely based on what people decide the goods are worth relative to each other. So, say you'd be happy to trade 10 of your famous sand-cakes for a small piece of that magical metal everyone wants. Then that piece of metal is worth 10 times whatever the cakes are worth. Which is why you ought to pick a product and fix its value. Then, any other products you need to assign value to can be considered in terms of that first product (or via a chain ultimately leading back to that product)

The product, does it determine the value of the metal being used as exchange, or can the metal itself be the product of which value is fixed?
Could I not take 100g of obsidian say that it represents 1 tokkul (being a unit of value)?

KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:Yup. It's largely based on what people decide the goods are worth relative to each other. So, say you'd be happy to trade 10 of your famous sand-cakes for a small piece of that magical metal everyone wants. Then that piece of metal is worth 10 times whatever the cakes are worth. Which is why you ought to pick a product and fix its value. Then, any other products you need to assign value to can be considered in terms of that first product (or via a chain ultimately leading back to that product)

The product, does it determine the value of the metal being used as exchange, or can the metal itself be the product of which value is fixed?
Could I not take 100g of obsidian say that it represents 1 tokkul (being a unit of value)?

No. You will almost certainly want your obsidian 'coins' to be worked, to prevent counterfeiting. This necessarily decouples their value from the worth of the same amount of raw obsidian. And if raw obsidian is as common as you seem to have implied, obsidian itself is dirt-cheap, which is not what you want. There's a good reason I suggested a food - everyone buys it, and it's not what money's made from.

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:

אקֿמך ארש-הגִנו wrote:

KathAveara wrote:Yup. It's largely based on what people decide the goods are worth relative to each other. So, say you'd be happy to trade 10 of your famous sand-cakes for a small piece of that magical metal everyone wants. Then that piece of metal is worth 10 times whatever the cakes are worth. Which is why you ought to pick a product and fix its value. Then, any other products you need to assign value to can be considered in terms of that first product (or via a chain ultimately leading back to that product)

The product, does it determine the value of the metal being used as exchange, or can the metal itself be the product of which value is fixed?
Could I not take 100g of obsidian say that it represents 1 tokkul (being a unit of value)?

No. You will almost certainly want your obsidian 'coins' to be worked, to prevent counterfeiting. This necessarily decouples their value from the worth of the same amount of raw obsidian. And if raw obsidian is as common as you seem to have implied, obsidian itself is dirt-cheap, which is not what you want. There's a good reason I suggested a food - everyone buys it, and it's not what money's made from.

Worked? How?

Is the value of the coin based on the equivalent weight of the agricultural product whose value is fixed? Ex. 100g obsidian is the same as 20 aloe plants totaling a weight of 100g and therefore the value of the obsidian coin is 20 aloes? That is to say your 10 tokkul is enough to buy/equivalent to 200 units of aloe?

din wrote:I wouldn't call this "creativity" unless you tell us a little more about it.

Ketumak wrote:Very nice notes and coins, vampireshark. Gives me a ... yen to learn the language of Telemor. Have you put anything on the 'net about it?

WeepingElf wrote:What has happened to the right edge? Something bitten out?

vampireshark wrote:

WeepingElf wrote:What has happened to the right edge? Something bitten out?

It's actually meant to be a cut-out of the left edge of the silhouette of a map of Telèmor, much how older Canadian visas had cut-outs of maple leaves in the document and how some other visas have edge cut-outs.