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well like I said I had to adjust for a brainfart on carton size

But yeah it's still a bit high here. I dunno maybe if I shopped at such as Costco I could get cheaper milk.

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At my local discouters of trust (Lidl, Aldi, or Tegut) I pay like € 0.60-0.80 for a liter of low-fat milk (full milk, at 3.5% fat, is typically a couple cents more expensive, but it's in the same price range usually). A 1 kg loaf of not too fancy grey bread should be 2.80 to 3 bucks. I usually buy 750 g loafs of multi-grain bread for 2.40 €-ish. A Big Mac should be something like €4. An iPod nano is ~100 €, dunno bout them iPhones. On average, a m² in a dwelling house should be something like € 6, however it's super cheap in the East, and ridiculously expensive in cities like Munich (far over € 10). In Braunschweig I payed something like € 8 without utilities, here in a village close to Marburg it should be ~€ 6, down in the city it's often more expensive, like € 7-8. Personally, I pay € 220 for a 16 m² room in a shared flat including utilities, and joint use of bathroom, kitchen, garage, and a huge back garden, which is considered very OK. Gas is considered ridiculously expensive at ~€ 1.48/L.


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The whole point is that you can compare things that are similar across boundaries and between themselves: a toyota corolla is a toyota corolla anywhere, and so is a ballpen. other than the kiloes of food you posit, which have another flaw [they depend heavily on a small sector of the economy, and are thus too noise-sensitive to be good indicators], vehicle upkeep, a "long distance" train ride and rent are *very* broad categories.

There's a few great indicators there, though... the beer, the trash disposal, the mobile subscription and the health and education prices. I'll answer the entire list later.

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What litter service costs I don't know, it's included in my rent, however a sixpack of pilsner beer (0.33 L) should be something like € 4 including deposit (I only buy single bottles or cans of beer every now and then as I generally don't drink much), public health care is 15.5% of your pre-tax income this year (a tooth filling is ~€ 60), and university may cost you € 500 to several thousand € per year. Most public universities have fees of € 500 per semester, so € 1000/yr. As I don't have a mobile plan I don't know what a subscription costs per month. For a combined DSL (mostly 6 MBit) and phone flatrate you typically pay ~€ 30-50/mo., however. A new Toyota Auris (there's no Corolla anymore here) seems to cost about € 20,000 (the cheapest model the website I looked at listed was 18k, the most expensive one 26k, most were 20-21k). I'd be surprised if a simple ball pen were more than € 0.50/pc., and 100-sheet A4 writing pads are ~€ 1.50, though stationery is generally much cheaper at the beginnings of school years. A pair of good shoes may cost € 40 easily if you buy in a proper shoe shop.

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a big mac - I think about $3
a liter and a half of mineral water - is mineral water the fizzy kind that no one drinks here? If yes, then the same as pop - about $2 for 2L. If it's normal bottle water then about $1/L.
a simple ballpen - you can get like 3 for $1 at the dollarama
two liter cocacola bottle - $1.79 at Walmart I think
a can of insecticide - mosquito spray is about $4 for can
a dildo - depends on what it's made of, the size, etc. Starts at around $20 I think. I prefer vibrators though, so I'm not sure.
a plain notebook - about $1 for something with 80 pages
a brand new toyota corolla -
a monthly gym subscription - mine is $26 every two weeks, so ~$60 per month, and that's pretty standard here
the services of a cheap hooker - I hear from a guy at work that if you go up north in Manitoba you can get a blow job for $5
a kilo of beef - costs about $3.50 per pound here, so about $8 I guess
gasoline/petrol/whatever - it was 98 cents/L a couple days ago
a pack of your favourite cigarrettes - don't smoke, but I know my brother pays about $12 for a pack of 24
a joint [of marihuana] - never bought any here, always got it for free
running shoes - good ones can be $180, but a shitty every day pair that might need replacing on a yearly basis you can get at Walmart for $20
a hot dog - the summer hot dog stand outside my bus stop sells a hot dog with all the fixin's and a can of pop or a bottle of water for $4

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I write on paper a lot, and seeing as there aren't that many students where I go to school that bring computers to class (and some professors actually ban them) I'd wager there are probably a lot of college students that take notes with pen and paper. (Some of my older relatives don't believe this either, though - they imagine that kids these days live in some kind of Jetson-world where everything is computers.) He is right about the ball-point pens, though - they are cheap, and shitty, and no one buys them because companies give them away as cheap shitty advertising. Roller-ball pens (or pencils) are what you want.

Also, is this thing where mineral water = carbonated water (rather than just fancy water with extra minerals) standard outside the US? I've never heard it used to mean that before.

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I once heard that doctors tend to have shit handwriting because of the massive amounts of writing they're supposed to do in medical school and the high speed that is expected of a lot of that writing. I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm only in my second year of college and not even my doctor can read my handwriting.

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Well, no one but me can read my handwriting either, but I think that mostly has to do with how I broke my dominant wrist in middle school and my muscles forgot everything I ever learned about writing legibly.

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It's Mineralwasser here, which is carbonated water, regionally also called Sprudel (essentially, fizz). It comes in bottles of glass at 0.75 L (0.33 L in restaurants for ~€ 1.20), or in plastic bottles of 0.5, 1 or 1.5 L commonly. You get it either medium (not too bubbly) or normal (too bubbly for my taste), and it's uncarbonated bottled water that's somewhat special. If you like uncarbonated water you can just drink tap water in most places, really.


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On the plus side, if you're trying to quit then apparently keeping track of exactly how much money you've saved by not smoking becomes a major motivator.

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