Confusing headlines and other trips down the garden path

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mèþru wrote:
Pole, the wrote:mentally stable aren't going to buy guns anyway
Not necessarily true. A lot of people without mental problems buy guns without any reason.
I think you kind of misread the tone of Pole's post there.
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Ars Lande wrote:English might be evolving a little too fast for us non-native speakers to catch up.
I somehow suspect that most native speakers don't understand that either...
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Yeah, I guess I did.
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"Come to Mar-a-Lago, where you can watch US foreign policy being made and meet the man who carries the nuclear football for the low, low price of $200,000 a year"

from Vox

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Chance The Rapper Reportedly Turns Down $10M To Stay Independent

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Is it just me, or have these recent headlines been neither confusing nor garden path-y?

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How about this gem of syntactic ambiguity (thanks, Politico):

Cabinet picks clash with White House over hiring
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That's a fun one!
I generally forget to say, so if it's relevant and I don't mention it--I'm from Southern Michigan and speak Inland North American English. Yes, I have the Northern Cities Vowel Shift; no, I don't have the cot-caught merger; and it is called pop.

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I understand others would have problems with the unfamiliar syntax, but despite the unfamiliarity of the syntax, the main difficulty of the statement for me is that I don't know who 'Palestine Queen' or 'Gigi' are. Apparently, they refer to one and the same person, Gigi Hadid.

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Chinese official denied visa to attend U.S. planetary science conference
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What's the problem with that one?

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I read it as "the Chinese officials who were denied a visa are about to attend a conference".

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Or, a Chinese official did the denying, so that someone else couldn't attend. Or, the Chinese offical denied a bunch of poor visa to attend a conference!


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Oh, that's amusing! I read it as (presumably the intended) "A Chinese official who was going to attend the conference was denied a visa"

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Or, a Chinese official did the denying, so that someone else couldn't attend. Or, the Chinese offical denied a bunch of poor visa to attend a conference!
Or a denied visa going to attend something, as I'd most mindlessly parse it.
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The BBC continue to exaggerate the size and antiquity of scientists:
They stalked the earth around a hundred million years ago and scientists are constantly looking for new dinosaur fossils.
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Lol.

I first read the following:
Stephen Hawking, Given Two Years to Live in 1963, Is Going To Space Over 50 Years Later

as being about time travel. It wasn't until I actually read the article that I realised it wasn't Hawking travelling back to the year 1963.

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From a novel by William Trevor:

"He strolled on the promenade among couples exercising their dogs, and nuns, and priests, and Christian Brothers."

I know that he's using all those commas specifically to prevent a reading that makes the clergy objects of the gerundive, but on me it perversely has the opposite effect. But maybe it's just that I love the image of Irish people keeping Christian Brothers as pets.

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As an Irish Catholic, you have to exercise your clergy daily.

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hwhatting wrote:As an Irish Catholic, you have to exercise your clergy daily.
Indeed, reports are always telling us how greatly the clergy are exercised by the modern Irish population...

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Caption on Politico:

President Donald Trump speaks as New Jersey Governor Chris Christie looks on during a meeting about opioid and drug abuse in the Cabinet Room at the White House on March 29
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This one took me a few moments:

2 new employees filling out paperwork among dead in St. Louis boiler explosion

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That article gives whiplash: one moment I'm laughing at the title; the next I'm very sad because of the deaths.
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The first source where I saw that story bizarrely located it in "Eastern Missouri". I expected it was going to be in some podunk like Elsberry or Park Hills or Perryville, not in the middle of St Louis City.

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Even for someone like me, who follows Major League Baseball, this was somewhat puzzling. If you don't, it must be completely opaque:

Braves foam tomahawks spill onto I-75 South in Cobb

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