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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:58 am 
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Dan Harmon Acknowledges That He Sexually Harassed Community Writer Megan Ganz in a Seven-Minute Podcast Monologue (Slate)

Where's the confusion? I can parse that without a problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:36 am 
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Dangling participle. Does the "in a Seven-Minute Podcast Monologue" refer to when he did the sexual harassment, or the acknowledgement?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:22 pm 
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It can't be a dangling participle if there's no participle, can it? AFAICT it's just syntactic ambiguity of what it's modifying.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:29 pm 
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jal wrote:
linguoboy wrote:
Dan Harmon Acknowledges That He Sexually Harassed Community Writer Megan Ganz in a Seven-Minute Podcast Monologue (Slate)

Where's the confusion? I can parse that without a problem.

But with what interpretation? Was it the harassment that took place during the podcast or the acknowledgment of it?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:23 pm 
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Vijay wrote:
It can't be a dangling participle if there's no participle, can it? AFAICT it's just syntactic ambiguity of what it's modifying.


This is me having the consistent problem of calling this a "dangling participle" even if it's a non-participle modifier that's dangling.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:16 pm 
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linguoboy wrote:
But with what interpretation? Was it the harassment that took place during the podcast or the acknowledgment of it?

You're right, I found it so obvious I didn't even think of an interpretation in which the haressment took place during the podcast.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:01 pm 
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It took me a moment to realise there wasn't a grammatical error in this front-page headline from the Sun:

MARRIED MP BONE'S PHYSIO LOVER

My immediate interpretation was the one without the apostrophe.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:30 am 
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jal wrote:
linguoboy wrote:
But with what interpretation? Was it the harassment that took place during the podcast or the acknowledgment of it?

You're right, I found it so obvious I didn't even think of an interpretation in which the haressment took place during the podcast.


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I'm honestly curious what it would look like for one person to sexually harass another while recording a podcast monologue. How would that work? Inappropriately fondling someone while recording it? Taking a break in the middle? I mean, I guess you could harass them while recording it, but that would just be stupid. I mean, wouldn't people hear you?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:49 am 
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Vijay wrote:
I'm honestly curious what it would look like for one person to sexually harass another while recording a podcast monologue. How would that work? Inappropriately fondling someone while recording it? Taking a break in the middle? I mean, I guess you could harass them while recording it, but that would just be stupid. I mean, wouldn't people hear you?

For one, harassment is often verbal, not physical, so that would be easy. Secondly, given the current culture, sexist remarks on a live radio show or podcasts are unfortunately not all that remarkable.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:18 pm 
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French 'MeToo' creator 'faces legal action'
I was confused as to whether the creator was accused by #MeToo or accused someone else.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:05 pm 
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I wasn't, I don't think, but I mistakenly thought they meant the French creator of the #MeToo movement, rather than the creator of the French equivalent of the #MeToo movement (French ['MeToo' creator] instead of [French 'MeToo'] creator).


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:05 pm 
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Something I saw on YouTube:
How to groom a cat severely matted

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:43 pm 
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How to groom a cat severely matted

I always groom my cat while matted!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:59 pm 
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From somebody talking about working at an animal sanctuary:

"We brought water to empty bowls by buckets."

The intended meaning:
More: show
The hoses to fill water bowls for the animals were frozen, so they had to carry water in buckets.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:34 pm 
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jal wrote:
Qwynegold wrote:
How to groom a cat severely matted

I always groom my cat while matted!


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I always groom my nonexistent cat severely!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:34 am 
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One of my favourite lines in Jennifer Fallon's "Demon Child Trilogy" / "Hythrun Chronicles" is in Treason Keep:
"...he promised, as her shirt fell away, exposing her glorious pale breasts. They fell onto the scattered cushions beside the brazier."

It reminds me of this clip from "Look Who's Talking Too.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:30 pm 
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Ryan of Tinellb wrote:
"...he promised, as her shirt fell away, exposing her glorious pale breasts. They fell onto the scattered cushions beside the brazier."

That's the most corny crap I've read in a long time... "glorious breast"??? Come on...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:31 pm 
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Wonderful syntax exacerbated by unfortunate breaking, from the beeb. Sadly they've updated the story now.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:34 am 
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Cheating a bit, because this isn't exactly an ambiguity, just a ridiculously bad, potentially misleading phrasing.

I saw a form in which the form-filler-outer* had to say whether they were OK with a statement of facts. The two options given were:

Yes there are not any inaccuracies
No, factual inaccuracies exist

While both options are grammatically unambiguous (if only thanks to punctuation), even I had to read those over three times to be sure which was which, and I'd have hated to have to be the one filling it out in a hurry and knowing that a lot might rest on ticking the right box.... the only reason I don't suspect that they're intentionally confusing is that I can't see any reason why that would be in anyone's interest.





*huh. There's no word "former" or "formee"...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:50 am 
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Another from a form:

The [item] is as visible as required by regulations

The actual intended meaning would require additional commas...

And while we're here, this semantic ambiguity (from the beeb) is pretty obfusctatory without context:

A Valentine's card for a wife costs £2, despite looking remarkably similar to one for a husband, priced at £2.50

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:17 am 
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Salmoneus wrote:
A Valentine's card for a wife costs £2, despite looking remarkably similar to one for a husband, priced at £2.50

Even without context, which I think is either implicit or quite clear, I think this is pretty good parsable? Or do you think anyone would mistaken the price for a husband to be 2,50?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:44 am 
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Salmoneus wrote:
The [item] is as visible as required by regulations

The actual intended meaning would require additional commas...

Could you elaborate?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:08 pm 
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I think it's unclear whether the husband has to pay more to get the card or whether the wife has to pay more to get it for him.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:26 pm 
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KathTheDragon wrote:
Salmoneus wrote:
The [item] is as visible as required by regulations

The actual intended meaning would require additional commas...

Could you elaborate?

I'm guessing that "as visible" should be set off. Or I could be wrong and the regulations really do specify visibility.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:16 pm 
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Salmoneus wrote:
The [item] is as visible as required by regulations


I may be missing something... this seems awkward but not difficult. I take it as meaning that regulations require [item] to be visible, and there are minimums for 'visibility', and the product has met the minimum.

It'd sound better to me with an extra is: "The [item] is as visible as is required by regulations." Though honestly I'd just rewrite it: "The [item] is as visible as regulations require", or "The [item] meets visibility regulations."


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