The Contradictory Feelings Thread

[Ars Lande]

[Or be the Watchman film and shamelessly steal random bits of music Glass wrote for other people, because you've got no sense of pride or dignity...]

How was that stealing? IIRC, they even got the Philip Glass Ensemble to play the reworked bits of Koyaanisqatsi.

Well, OK, the Watchmen version is tacky, and the original Koyaanisqatsi is far better; OTOH, I wouldn't even have heard of Glass otherwise, so I can't really complain.

[Salmoneus]

Well, it's saying "hey, I really want this composer's music in my film!". "Should pay him to write some music for us?" "Oh, bugger that, he's already written a bunch of other scores, let's just use them. Way cheaper - that way we only need to buy permission, rather than buying permission AND paying him to work for us." "Clever idea! So we just use someone else's soundtrack?" "No no, then we'd need to buy permission for the composition AND permission for the performance. We'll just get some other guys to perform it again for us, that'll be way cheaper." "But sir, won't audiences notice that they're just hearing the same music they heard in a different film, and that our soundtrack is bodged together from scraps we found rather than being a cohesive musical entity specifically designed to complement the events and tone of the film?" "Meh, who cares? Hey, do we really need actors? Do you think we could just buy clips of actors from other films and stick them together? You know, maybe we should just re-release Batman Returns, only paste new faces over the actors and dub in the words from the comic?"

It may not legally be stealing, but it's still pretty tacky.

[ObsequiousNewt]

Evidently, it is a slippery slope.

[Rhetorica]

I think the record for reuses of a modern composition is probably John Murphy's Sunshine Adagio in D Minor; check out the list. You'd think they'd just hire Rank 1 and get it over with.

[Salmoneus]

May come down to what you consider 'use' and what you dismiss as a 'quotation'.
But the three most-heard modern compositions (not including pop songs) I can think of (the Wikipedia pages just give representative samples) would be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK-b5PLhrEI - Theme from 'Peter Gunn', Henry Mancini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAwZ7hCxNVo - 'Johnny and Molly' Theme from 'A Summer Place', Max Steiner
And of course the all-time champion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvzvUWZWpQc

The second of those is also by itself one of the most played songs of the 20th century (Billboard #1 for 1960, #18 all-time, and that's just counting the Percy Faith version).

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ6Mzvh3XCc, 'Spiegel im Spiegel' by Arvo Part is also very commonly heard.

[Aurora Rossa]

After nearly two years of trying, I finally managed to get a long overdue medical checkup. Unfortunately the results said that I have something wrong with my thyroid and I had to arrange another appointment with an endocrinologist which happens tomorrow. Although I cannot say for sure, there is a very real possibility that I have some kind of thyroid cancer and will die in the foreseeable future. On the other hand, this could finally solve various symptoms that have been bugging me. I feel like some implacable court has found me guilty of a felony I never committed and now they're debating whether to execute me.

[Nesescosac]

Wie ein Hund!

[dhok]

After nearly two years of trying, I finally managed to get a long overdue medical checkup. Unfortunately the results said that I have something wrong with my thyroid and I had to arrange another appointment with an endocrinologist which happens tomorrow. Although I cannot say for sure, there is a very real possibility that I have some kind of thyroid cancer and will die in the foreseeable future. On the other hand, this could finally solve various symptoms that have been bugging me. I feel like some implacable court has found me guilty of a felony I never committed and now they're debating whether to execute me.

HARROWING

CONFRONTATIONS

WITH DESTINY

[Aurora Rossa]

I actually thought of that phrase when writing the post. Though if the possibility of premature death doesn't qualify as a harrowing confrontation with destiny, what the hell does?

[Hallow XIII]

Nothing. They don't exist.

[Drydic]

Nothing. They don't exist.

[Shm Jay]

Although I cannot say for sure, there is a very real possibility that I have some kind of thyroid cancer and will die in the foreseeable future.

We will all die in the foreseeable future. However, I doubt you have thyroid cancer.

[Torco]

Although I cannot say for sure, there is a very real possibility that I have some kind of thyroid cancer and will die in the foreseeable future.

We will all die in the foreseeable future. However, I doubt you have thyroid cancer.

Unless you're sickly thin or sickly fat... both can be associated with thyroid problems.

[Drydic]

Most of which are not, in fact, thyroid cancer.

Also protip: Eddy, I know two people who had thyroid cancer and survived. So even if it is, you are unlikely to die.

[Torco]

Most of which are not, in fact, thyroid cancer.

Also protip: Eddy, I know two people who had thyroid cancer and survived. So even if it is, you are unlikely to die.

two of your friends are a terrible way to evaluate survival chances: fortunately, statistics comes to the rescue!
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcan ... ival-rates
so thyroid doesn't seem to be incredibly dangerous as far as cancer goes... only 50% at advanced stages, and nearly 100% at early stages. much more optimistic than stuff like lung cancer.

[Drydic]

Most of which are not, in fact, thyroid cancer.

Also protip: Eddy, I know two people who had thyroid cancer and survived. So even if it is, you are unlikely to die.

two of your friends are a terrible way to evaluate survival chances: fortunately, statistics comes to the rescue!
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/thyroidcan ... ival-rates
so thyroid doesn't seem to be incredibly dangerous as far as cancer goes... only 50% at advanced stages, and nearly 100% at early stages. much more optimistic than stuff like lung cancer.

To be clear, Torco means survival rates.

And I was summarizing for Eddy's benefit, since the boy glosses over long explanations.

[Torco]

Point taken

To be clear, Torco means survival rates.

or do I ?

[patiku]

So... did your doctor think thyroid cancer was likely, or did he just mention it?

[Thry]

On the other hand, this could finally solve various symptoms that have been bugging me.

Which symptoms?

[Drydic]

On the other hand, this could finally solve various symptoms that have been bugging me.

Which symptoms?

Rednecks banjos and Afrikaners.

[Aurora Rossa]

I went to the doctor today and he said he was not quite sure about the problem but suspected that I may simply have hyperthyroidism. I will need to take the medication he prescribed and get some more blood work in the upcoming months to see what happens.

Rednecks banjos and Afrikaners.

Perhaps I should be pleased to see that my criticism has been so stinging.

[Drydic]

go stare at your wall more

[Aurora Rossa]

go stare at your wall more

I don't understand why you're still so angry at me.

[patiku]

If you unban me I'll get Drydic off your back.

[Thry]

No symptoms for me then.

I hope you don't have cancer.