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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:30 pm 
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What exactly do the names of the Incatena ranks mean in Verdurian?

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why are half of those from latin and slavic?

ad, alta, appellare, apollo, arachnis, arbor, arcum, argentum, azur ...

okno, svetla, borsuk, bogaty, chetvert, chisto, chesto, zdorova, dzienkuy, dinya, dobre, dom, den, drug, dukh....

feels very unprofessional

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You know Verdurian was Zomp's first conlang, right? This was before the days of easy, computer-assisted vocab generation.


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Even the name is a Romance loan:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verdura

But yeah, I believe Zomp started working on Verdurian when he was a teenager or even younger, and has made few changes to the basic vocabulary since then. The page says copyright 1998 but it was already fully fleshed out by 2001 so the language might be older than that. Another page on the site says 1994. So maybe not as old as I thought, but someone could fill me in. http://www.zompist.com/secreth.htm says the 1980s.

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I began working on Verdurian in 1978. I revised it heavily in the early 1990s after learning about historical linguistics.

It's a bit ironic when a member of my board comments that it's not a pure a posteriori naturalistic language. Uh yeah, why do you think this board tends to prefer that sort of conlang? Maybe something to do with the models and the kit and the tools provided by its founder?

I'll also mention that when I started Verdurian I was heavily influenced by Tolkien, whose public-facing model was a world where the closer languages were to the protagonists' culture, the more familiar they looked. So Verdurian was supposed to look like a European language, while farther-off languages would be more exotic.


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They are named after army ranks??? So Niš must be trainee, and Osän is master.

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Actually, relatedly, what does vohpenonomae's custom rank ("N'guny") mean?

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vohpenonomae's rank appears to mean "witch, sorcerer, enchanter", based on the word in the Elkarîl lexicon n'guñ with that meaning.

Edit: I think it's interesting that neither lil nor rim is what a human would call "focal green"--rîm is better than either, IMO. Khil, nij, ñij and jith are pretty good foci by human standards, though qiñ is a little light for focal purple, at least to my eye, and of course ggich/teal isn't a usual basic color term in human langs.


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They are a different species, so the focal colors are different for them.

(I have to admit, I didn't work them out on a neurological level. Maybe I will... :) )


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