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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:25 am 
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I think you need to show that this indeed was the original usage of the term.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:42 am 
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I can't support my own argument based it being original, but looking on it again, it was a terrible argument in the first place. It is what is the common, intuitive definition in the present which matters (it would make an interesting survey, but I don't think I can prove that either)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:45 pm 
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I'm at loss to understand what your intention is with this...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:47 pm 
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My original reaction was that this was somehow an inept attempt to argue that we should have legislation against, in this case, racist speech in general. But then I realized this was cunningham posting, and that seemed inconsistent with cunningham's posting pattern here at all.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:59 pm 
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My point was

a) If you don't like something, walk away
b) Need some comedic relief because this conversation is getting a little too technical


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:13 pm 
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It's not so simple. When it's someone who has power or authority over you, you cannot just walk away. When it's someone who works with you or studies in the same classes as you, you cannot just walk away.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:28 pm 
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Words are only offensive when you make them offensive. If someone calls me a faggot, I won't hesitate to laugh it off. There's no point in 2016 to get offended by words over the Internet.

If your boss or colleague is blackmailing you, that is a different story. That is how cyberbullying should be defined, not saying "words"

The Marxists in Academia keep redefining words. Racism used to mean feeling that your race is superior to other races. Now it's just "prejudice + power" or "white people". Rape used to mean "penetrating sex without consent". Now it's become synonymous to sexual assault and trivialized to the point where catcalling is considered rape as well. And now cyberbullying means "someone said something mean to me on the internet." Hate speech is now "someone has a different opinion than me"

And then comes censorship and forcing people to use pronouns and bla bla bla slippery slope I know. This is how totalitarianism begins.

Welcome to 1984.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:30 am 
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I have yet to understand what it is about conlanging and linguistics that apparently attracts racists...:P


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To me the problem with the term cyberbullying is that it implies that it is special somehow and thus needing differentiation from normal bullying, which people can too get PTSD or kill themselves as a result of.

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Umm isn't claiming that all white people are fascists and white supremacists racism against white people, in that ascribes a particular nature to white people as a whole, as if races could even have natures in the first place, rather than to various white people as individuals? Or are you one of those people who insist that only white people can be racist?

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