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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 1:14 pm 
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A general thread about discussing democratic electoral systems, hypothetical or not.

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Can you step back a bit and answer a few questions?

- What problem are you trying to solve?
- Are you trying to disqualify voters, or votes, or candidates?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:48 pm 
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Since writing the above post, I got an idea for an alternative idea to majority judgement. You give each candidate an integer value. The highest absolute value is set as a denominator for all the values. Find the mean score of all candidates combined, and add that value to the candidates until all have the same amount of votes. Finally, find the median value for each candidate as per the rules majority judgement.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:40 pm 
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How much research have you done into the research and work other people have done towards voting systems and their problems?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:47 pm 
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Not much, but I'm hoping to learn.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:38 am 
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I knew most of the stuff you talked about. I'm only partial going with the 1st principle (I've listed my criteria in a previous post, criterion #4 is incompatible with principle #1, so I'm trying to compromise between them), but I agree with the 2nd. I'm not sure about how I can even do the 3rd. As I've already stated, the Condorcet criteria is incompatible with the goals of whatever system I choose.

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Your system is a heavily simplified version of what I created, essentially. It's specifically for the US presidential elections. No other country intended and no other public positions than president and vice president (voted for separately, so it is possible that they are from two different parties). It wouldn't work for a small country like Israel.

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Having a president and vice president from different parties does not sound like a great idea. There's a reason the US stopped voting separately for those two positions.

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I am trying to at least address the criteria, not fully solve it. Look at my draft in an earlier post.

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I'm pretty sure murdering is grounds for impeachment, and any death of a president provokes conspiracy theories about vice presidents anyway, even if they are of the same faction of the same party.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:44 am 
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ya but if the vice president was a democrat a lot more people would be awfully happy if the donaldmeister ate some plutonium or whatever

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