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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:19 pm 
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In a pinch, the SPD has always chosen "being responsible" over insisting on their program and vision, starting with voting for the war loans in 1914. It always ended badly for them, but they never learn.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:46 pm 
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The worst time was when they entered a coalition with the Nazis. But I feel like this time the responsible thing to do is to make a new coalition.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:42 am 
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The SPD never formed a coalition with the Nazis!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:44 am 
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Nevermind. I thought they did some agreement for a stable government shortly before they got banned. If that's not true, I'm very sorry for spreading such terrible misinformation.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:12 pm 
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And here is an article that counters the claims about Corbyn's association with such people:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:59 pm 
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That article uses the phrase "guilt by association" a lot. I don't see anything wrong making up my mind about people partly based on whom they choose to associate with. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Few people would take cries of "that's guilt by association" seriously if a right-wing politician would repeatedly associate with neonazis and his opponents would point that out. The article repeatedly quotes St. Jeremy's own spin on his actions and words as if it would change anything. And the article only talks about St. Jeremy himself, completely ignoring the antics of his followers.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:57 am 
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Of course, for example, Marine LePen's association with Neonazis could be seen as equivalent. I think the timing on some things is relevant: one guy he associated with before he 'came out' as Holocaust denier, and this was the same for some Jews.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:36 pm 
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The CDU, CSU, and SPD have finished their coalition deal! It now needs to be approved by the total SPD membership. The results of that vote will be published in early March. Sigh.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:38 am 
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Who knows ... I hope and expect that the SPD membership base is reasonable enough to accept the deal. Just think of what happens if they don't: new elections, in which the SPD will go down in flames, and then perhaps a government coalition of CDU/CSU, FDP and AfD ... God beware!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:46 pm 
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An outright coalition of that kind seems unlikely to me, but I could imagine a CDU/CSU minority government that engages in a certain amount of rhetorical warfare with the AfD (and, to a lesser extent, the FDP) over other issues while at the same time happily using their votes to get majorities for laws more or less ending the welfare state.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:19 am 
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The coalition agreement is a total fraud and the behaviour of certain party leaders, not just within the SPD, is outrageous in my opinion. I'm certainly curious about how the roughly 25.000 new SPD members will influence the vote, but I kinda stopped caring about the outcome since nothing good can come of it anyway.
Olaf Scholz and Andrea Nahles are two SPD politicians I particularly despise though, and if that's the direction the party is going, na dann Mahlzeit.


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Result just in: 66 percent of SPD members voted for the coalition agreement.

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I am glad that the majority of the SPD membership base voted in favour of the coalition. Sure, such a compromise is not easy to stomach, but if the SPD had blackballed the agreement, they would have made fools of themselves, suffered a grave defeat in new elections, and paved the way for a conservative minority government depending on the AfD, which would have been a veritable nightmare. At least the end of the present parliamentary crisis is in sight, how mediocre the new government may be.

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